paizo.com Recent Posts in Aristocrat/Noble/Adventurer/customizable Class.paizo.com Recent Posts in Aristocrat/Noble/Adventurer/customizable Class.2012-09-03T03:01:34Z2012-09-03T03:01:34ZRe: Forums: Homebrew and House Rules: Aristocrat/Noble/Adventurer/customizable Class.Alex G St-Amandhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2osns?AristocratNobleAdventurercustomizable-Class#302014-12-11T21:55:39Z2014-12-11T21:55:39Z<p>Or make a Final Fantasy like Thief class?</p>Or make a Final Fantasy like Thief class?Alex G St-Amand2014-12-11T21:55:39ZRe: Forums: Homebrew and House Rules: Aristocrat/Noble/Adventurer/customizable Class.poiuyt (alias of Void Munchkin)https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2osns?AristocratNobleAdventurercustomizable-Class#292012-11-05T01:13:12Z2012-11-05T01:13:12Z<p>... Got distracted by too many things. </p>
<p>Made a Rogue alternate class called "Thief", need tweaking and stuff. </p>
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Made a Rogue alternate class called "Thief", need tweaking and stuff.
[Spoiler omitted]poiuyt (alias of Void Munchkin)2012-11-05T01:13:12ZRe: Forums: Homebrew and House Rules: Aristocrat/Noble/Adventurer/customizable Class.poiuyt (alias of Void Munchkin)https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2osns?AristocratNobleAdventurercustomizable-Class#282012-09-17T03:00:35Z2012-09-17T03:00:35Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Da'ath wrote:</div><blockquote><p> You know, the first time and subsequent times I commented on this post I do not believe I had a clue about what you were trying to do (as in, I totally misunderstood your intent). For some reason, I did not catch on to your variables reference.</p>
<p>To make sure I'm on the same page as you, please correct this if I'm wrong:</p>
<p>You're attempting to design a skeleton class with - in essence - an assortment of customizable "plug N play" abilities.</p>
<p>Does that about sum it up?</p>
<p>If so, there is an Adventurer Class in the BESM d20 (Big Eyes Small Mouth) sourcebook and all of the material in the book is extremely customizable. I don't like it, but my wife does. </blockquote><p>Partly, I want a Variable/customizable skill list and Saves, but other class features to be somewhat fixed.Da'ath wrote:You know, the first time and subsequent times I commented on this post I do not believe I had a clue about what you were trying to do (as in, I totally misunderstood your intent). For some reason, I did not catch on to your variables reference.
To make sure I'm on the same page as you, please correct this if I'm wrong:
You're attempting to design a skeleton class with - in essence - an assortment of customizable "plug N play" abilities.
Does that about sum it up?
If so, there...poiuyt (alias of Void Munchkin)2012-09-17T03:00:35ZRe: Forums: Homebrew and House Rules: Aristocrat/Noble/Adventurer/customizable Class.Da'athhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2osns?AristocratNobleAdventurercustomizable-Class#272012-09-17T02:53:37Z2012-09-17T02:53:37Z<p>You know, the first time and subsequent times I commented on this post I do not believe I had a clue about what you were trying to do (as in, I totally misunderstood your intent). For some reason, I did not catch on to your variables reference.</p>
<p>To make sure I'm on the same page as you, please correct this if I'm wrong:</p>
<p>You're attempting to design a skeleton class with - in essence - an assortment of customizable "plug N play" abilities.</p>
<p>Does that about sum it up?</p>
<p>If so, there is an Adventurer Class in the BESM d20 (Big Eyes Small Mouth) sourcebook and all of the material in the book is extremely customizable. I don't like it, but my wife does.</p>You know, the first time and subsequent times I commented on this post I do not believe I had a clue about what you were trying to do (as in, I totally misunderstood your intent). For some reason, I did not catch on to your variables reference.
To make sure I'm on the same page as you, please correct this if I'm wrong:
You're attempting to design a skeleton class with - in essence - an assortment of customizable "plug N play" abilities.
Does that about sum it up?
If so, there is an...Da'ath2012-09-17T02:53:37ZRe: Forums: Homebrew and House Rules: Aristocrat/Noble/Adventurer/customizable Class.poiuyt (alias of Void Munchkin)https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2osns?AristocratNobleAdventurercustomizable-Class#262012-09-15T23:36:27Z2012-09-15T23:36:27Z<p>More skeleton versions: </p>
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<p><a href="http://paizo.com/forums/dmtz6hz5?Noble-Base-Class" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">And that guy got some nice ideas.</a></p>More skeleton versions:
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And that guy got some nice ideas.poiuyt (alias of Void Munchkin)2012-09-15T23:36:27ZRe: Forums: Homebrew and House Rules: Aristocrat/Noble/Adventurer/customizable Class.poiuyt (alias of Void Munchkin)https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2osns?AristocratNobleAdventurercustomizable-Class#252012-09-12T00:06:49Z2012-09-12T00:06:49Z<p>Still thinking and working on this... </p>
<p>Have some problems with Starting Wealth, Wealth By Level, Starting Outfit and related Accessories/gears (jewels, signet ring/s, crown, scepter, etc...)</p>Still thinking and working on this...
Have some problems with Starting Wealth, Wealth By Level, Starting Outfit and related Accessories/gears (jewels, signet ring/s, crown, scepter, etc...)poiuyt (alias of Void Munchkin)2012-09-12T00:06:49ZRe: Forums: Homebrew and House Rules: Aristocrat/Noble/Adventurer/customizable Class.Da'athhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2osns?AristocratNobleAdventurercustomizable-Class#242012-09-05T01:08:06Z2012-09-05T01:08:06Z<p>Here's the barebones version of the Conan d20 noble class. There are a couple talents that reference feats in Conan that don't exist in PF. I'd replace them, frankly. Additional notes: The special regional features for Nobles was written on the idea that humans all had different stats. Only race you could play was human, so why not? I collected the data, and basically "averaged" a formula for it and placed some examples in lieu of the original material (which would NOT make sense out of context)</p>
<p><a href="https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B991UUe_Bl6BUmdHaUpCUFpZRkU/edit" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Noble</a></p>
<p>I love the Conan d20 books. I encourage all to pick them up, even if only for inspiration. They were on discount at my local store and I considered them a bargain.</p>Here's the barebones version of the Conan d20 noble class. There are a couple talents that reference feats in Conan that don't exist in PF. I'd replace them, frankly. Additional notes: The special regional features for Nobles was written on the idea that humans all had different stats. Only race you could play was human, so why not? I collected the data, and basically "averaged" a formula for it and placed some examples in lieu of the original material (which would NOT make sense out of...Da'ath2012-09-05T01:08:06ZRe: Forums: Homebrew and House Rules: Aristocrat/Noble/Adventurer/customizable Class.Amora Game (alias of GarnathFrostmantle)https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2osns?AristocratNobleAdventurercustomizable-Class#232012-09-04T18:41:48Z2012-09-04T18:41:48Z<p>Thanks. It's going to one of the base classes for our Hand Over Fisticuffs setting.</p>Thanks. It's going to one of the base classes for our Hand Over Fisticuffs setting.Amora Game (alias of GarnathFrostmantle)2012-09-04T18:41:48ZRe: Forums: Homebrew and House Rules: Aristocrat/Noble/Adventurer/customizable Class.Da'athhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2osns?AristocratNobleAdventurercustomizable-Class#222012-09-04T18:41:30Z2012-09-04T18:41:30Z<p>I'll get the noble posted tonight. Was exhausted yesterday.</p>I'll get the noble posted tonight. Was exhausted yesterday.Da'ath2012-09-04T18:41:30ZRe: Forums: Homebrew and House Rules: Aristocrat/Noble/Adventurer/customizable Class.poiuyt (alias of Void Munchkin)https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2osns?AristocratNobleAdventurercustomizable-Class#212012-09-04T17:21:31Z2012-09-04T17:21:31Z<p>Thanks. </p>
<p>It seems nice...</p>Thanks.
It seems nice...poiuyt (alias of Void Munchkin)2012-09-04T17:21:31ZRe: Forums: Homebrew and House Rules: Aristocrat/Noble/Adventurer/customizable Class.Amora Game (alias of GarnathFrostmantle)https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2osns?AristocratNobleAdventurercustomizable-Class#202012-09-04T16:54:09Z2012-09-04T16:54:09Z<p><a href="http://paizo.com/store/byCompany/a/amoraGame" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Right here on Paizo :)</a></p>Right here on Paizo :)Amora Game (alias of GarnathFrostmantle)2012-09-04T16:54:09ZRe: Forums: Homebrew and House Rules: Aristocrat/Noble/Adventurer/customizable Class.poiuyt (alias of Void Munchkin)https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2osns?AristocratNobleAdventurercustomizable-Class#192012-09-04T16:51:47Z2012-09-04T16:51:47Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Amora Game wrote:</div><blockquote><p> •shameless plug• Take a look at our Adventurer class. We tried something very similar. Or downloaded the beta test, it's got most of the final product in there.
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We went with "a luck bonus/pool" for ours to fill in levels. But we did more of a "guild" adventurer. •/end plug•</p>
<p>We gave them a bonus feat every 4 levels and a teamwork feat every 4 levels. Alternating. </p>
<p>Maybe give them knowledge bonus, such as bardic knowledge at a certian level to exlpain experiance in life.
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Possibly something that gives them a bonus to a specialty skill that they focus on. </blockquote><p>Any link?Amora Game wrote:*shameless plug* Take a look at our Adventurer class. We tried something very similar. Or downloaded the beta test, it's got most of the final product in there.
We went with "a luck bonus/pool" for ours to fill in levels. But we did more of a "guild" adventurer. */end plug*We gave them a bonus feat every 4 levels and a teamwork feat every 4 levels. Alternating.
Maybe give them knowledge bonus, such as bardic knowledge at a certian level to exlpain experiance in life....poiuyt (alias of Void Munchkin)2012-09-04T16:51:47ZRe: Forums: Homebrew and House Rules: Aristocrat/Noble/Adventurer/customizable Class.Amora Game (alias of GarnathFrostmantle)https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2osns?AristocratNobleAdventurercustomizable-Class#182012-09-04T16:48:24Z2012-09-04T16:48:24Z<p>•shameless plug• Take a look at our Adventurer class. We tried something very similar. Or downloaded the beta test, it's got most of the final product in there.
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We went with "a luck bonus/pool" for ours to fill in levels. But we did more of a "guild" adventurer. •/end plug•</p>
<p>We gave them a bonus feat every 4 levels and a teamwork feat every 4 levels. Alternating. </p>
<p>Maybe give them knowledge bonus, such as bardic knowledge at a certian level to exlpain experiance in life.
<br />
Possibly something that gives them a bonus to a specialty skill that they focus on.</p>*shameless plug* Take a look at our Adventurer class. We tried something very similar. Or downloaded the beta test, it's got most of the final product in there.
We went with "a luck bonus/pool" for ours to fill in levels. But we did more of a "guild" adventurer. */end plug*
We gave them a bonus feat every 4 levels and a teamwork feat every 4 levels. Alternating.
Maybe give them knowledge bonus, such as bardic knowledge at a certian level to exlpain experiance in life.
Possibly something...Amora Game (alias of GarnathFrostmantle)2012-09-04T16:48:24ZRe: Forums: Homebrew and House Rules: Aristocrat/Noble/Adventurer/customizable Class.chip mckenziehttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2osns?AristocratNobleAdventurercustomizable-Class#172012-09-03T21:23:28Z2012-09-03T21:23:28Z<p>Oh yeah the corruption, I'd forgotten about that. Considering it was a big part of the whole "magic is dangerous" aspect I really should have remembered.</p>Oh yeah the corruption, I'd forgotten about that. Considering it was a big part of the whole "magic is dangerous" aspect I really should have remembered.chip mckenzie2012-09-03T21:23:28ZRe: Forums: Homebrew and House Rules: Aristocrat/Noble/Adventurer/customizable Class.Da'athhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2osns?AristocratNobleAdventurercustomizable-Class#162012-09-03T06:22:42Z2012-09-03T06:22:42Z<p>All magic, if I remember right, has a chance to get out of control and I believe a good bit of it(if not all of it) has a chance to corrupt you. You basically had a magic attack rating as well. I use some of the magic from it as hexes for witches.</p>
<p>As for the class, I'll see if I have time to post it tomorrow (taking my daughter to the aquarium & biopark, so will be tired when I get home). Looks like it has the OGL stamp on it, so I'll go through it and probably place it (the noble class with less bloated text) on google docs.</p>
<p>Good night folks!</p>All magic, if I remember right, has a chance to get out of control and I believe a good bit of it(if not all of it) has a chance to corrupt you. You basically had a magic attack rating as well. I use some of the magic from it as hexes for witches.
As for the class, I'll see if I have time to post it tomorrow (taking my daughter to the aquarium & biopark, so will be tired when I get home). Looks like it has the OGL stamp on it, so I'll go through it and probably place it (the noble class with...Da'ath2012-09-03T06:22:42ZRe: Forums: Homebrew and House Rules: Aristocrat/Noble/Adventurer/customizable Class.chip mckenziehttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2osns?AristocratNobleAdventurercustomizable-Class#152012-09-03T05:35:31Z2012-09-03T05:35:31Z<p>Been a while since I've looked at the book but from what I can recall as you levelled up in the Scholar class you gained access to new schools of magic and their associated basic spell. As you levelled you gained access to more schools and also to advanced spells. Rather than spell slots the spells used spell points which you only had a limited number of but could gain more through sacrifice or rituals or meditation (pretty sure, it has been a while).</p>
<p>The spells didn't contain a lot of flashy spells since there weren't a lot of flashy spells in the Hyborian age. You still had necromantic spells and nature magic spells and I think certain spells had a chance of running wild.</p>
<p>I also liked that there were two ways to learn the summoning school. Straight away via a pact with a demon which was also a source of spell knowledge or as a master of words and signs from 12th level onwards (might be 15th) which is basically you mastering the demons rather than making pacts with them.</p>Been a while since I've looked at the book but from what I can recall as you levelled up in the Scholar class you gained access to new schools of magic and their associated basic spell. As you levelled you gained access to more schools and also to advanced spells. Rather than spell slots the spells used spell points which you only had a limited number of but could gain more through sacrifice or rituals or meditation (pretty sure, it has been a while).
The spells didn't contain a lot of...chip mckenzie2012-09-03T05:35:31ZRe: Forums: Homebrew and House Rules: Aristocrat/Noble/Adventurer/customizable Class.Azaelas Fayth (alias of JTMC93)https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2osns?AristocratNobleAdventurercustomizable-Class#142012-09-03T04:46:11Z2012-09-03T04:46:11Z<p>Not really... question: how did their magic system work?</p>Not really... question: how did their magic system work?Azaelas Fayth (alias of JTMC93)2012-09-03T04:46:11ZRe: Forums: Homebrew and House Rules: Aristocrat/Noble/Adventurer/customizable Class.poiuyt (alias of Void Munchkin)https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2osns?AristocratNobleAdventurercustomizable-Class#132012-09-03T04:30:36Z2012-09-03T04:30:36Z<p>Some of those abilities would be hard to port/translate/convert.</p>Some of those abilities would be hard to port/translate/convert.poiuyt (alias of Void Munchkin)2012-09-03T04:30:36ZRe: Forums: Homebrew and House Rules: Aristocrat/Noble/Adventurer/customizable Class.chip mckenziehttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2osns?AristocratNobleAdventurercustomizable-Class#122012-09-03T04:27:12Z2012-09-03T04:27:12Z<p>Yep, the d20 Conan: Atlantean Edition. It was a core class for that system.</p>
<p>I also liked the scholar class which was essentially the default class for priests and sorcerers although you could take extra skill points and feats instead of the magic abilities. The magic system was completely different from D&D/PF but I felt really fit the setting.</p>Yep, the d20 Conan: Atlantean Edition. It was a core class for that system.
I also liked the scholar class which was essentially the default class for priests and sorcerers although you could take extra skill points and feats instead of the magic abilities. The magic system was completely different from D&D/PF but I felt really fit the setting.chip mckenzie2012-09-03T04:27:12ZRe: Forums: Homebrew and House Rules: Aristocrat/Noble/Adventurer/customizable Class.Azaelas Fayth (alias of JTMC93)https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2osns?AristocratNobleAdventurercustomizable-Class#112012-09-03T04:06:40Z2012-09-03T04:06:40Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Belle Mythix wrote:</div><blockquote> <div class="messageboard-quotee">chip mckenzie wrote:</div><blockquote><p> The noble in Conan d20 was pretty cool. I like how they flavoured it by having a class ability influenced by the region you came from. It meant that a Stygian noble was different from an Aquilonian noble. </p>
<p>I think generally the bonuses built a bit on race bonuses. </blockquote><p>What is the name of the book it appears in?
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</blockquote><p>d20 Conan: Atlantean Edition. See Da'ath's post above.Belle Mythix wrote:chip mckenzie wrote:The noble in Conan d20 was pretty cool. I like how they flavoured it by having a class ability influenced by the region you came from. It meant that a Stygian noble was different from an Aquilonian noble.
I think generally the bonuses built a bit on race bonuses.
What is the name of the book it appears in?
d20 Conan: Atlantean Edition. See Da'ath's post above.Azaelas Fayth (alias of JTMC93)2012-09-03T04:06:40ZRe: Forums: Homebrew and House Rules: Aristocrat/Noble/Adventurer/customizable Class.poiuyt (alias of Void Munchkin)https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2osns?AristocratNobleAdventurercustomizable-Class#102012-09-03T04:01:20Z2012-09-03T04:01:20Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">chip mckenzie wrote:</div><blockquote><p> The noble in Conan d20 was pretty cool. I like how they flavoured it by having a class ability influenced by the region you came from. It meant that a Stygian noble was different from an Aquilonian noble. </p>
<p>I think generally the bonuses built a bit on race bonuses. </blockquote><p>What is the name of the book it appears in?chip mckenzie wrote:The noble in Conan d20 was pretty cool. I like how they flavoured it by having a class ability influenced by the region you came from. It meant that a Stygian noble was different from an Aquilonian noble.
I think generally the bonuses built a bit on race bonuses.
What is the name of the book it appears in?poiuyt (alias of Void Munchkin)2012-09-03T04:01:20ZRe: Forums: Homebrew and House Rules: Aristocrat/Noble/Adventurer/customizable Class.chip mckenziehttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2osns?AristocratNobleAdventurercustomizable-Class#92012-09-03T03:56:05Z2012-09-03T03:56:05Z<p>The noble in Conan d20 was pretty cool. I like how they flavoured it by having a class ability influenced by the region you came from. It meant that a Stygian noble was different from an Aquilonian noble. </p>
<p>I think generally the bonuses built a bit on race bonuses.</p>The noble in Conan d20 was pretty cool. I like how they flavoured it by having a class ability influenced by the region you came from. It meant that a Stygian noble was different from an Aquilonian noble.
I think generally the bonuses built a bit on race bonuses.chip mckenzie2012-09-03T03:56:05ZRe: Forums: Homebrew and House Rules: Aristocrat/Noble/Adventurer/customizable Class.Azaelas Fayth (alias of JTMC93)https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2osns?AristocratNobleAdventurercustomizable-Class#82012-09-03T03:39:36Z2012-09-03T03:39:36Z<p>If it was released using OGL all of it is open content. You can repost most of it just so long as no product identity is used. So no proper nouns.</p>If it was released using OGL all of it is open content. You can repost most of it just so long as no product identity is used. So no proper nouns.Azaelas Fayth (alias of JTMC93)2012-09-03T03:39:36ZRe: Forums: Homebrew and House Rules: Aristocrat/Noble/Adventurer/customizable Class.Da'athhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2osns?AristocratNobleAdventurercustomizable-Class#72012-09-03T03:37:34Z2012-09-03T03:37:34Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Azaelas Fayth wrote:</div><blockquote>Isn't there a d20 Conan SRD?</blockquote><p>I wish!
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If you can find one, let me know. I've hunted like mad. As it is, I have the hard cover core book and the PDF, which thankfully is the sort I can cut and paste from. Most of the Conan stuff pulls rules from the SRD, till you get to their magic system and classes.</p>Azaelas Fayth wrote:Isn't there a d20 Conan SRD?
I wish!
If you can find one, let me know. I've hunted like mad. As it is, I have the hard cover core book and the PDF, which thankfully is the sort I can cut and paste from. Most of the Conan stuff pulls rules from the SRD, till you get to their magic system and classes.Da'ath2012-09-03T03:37:34ZRe: Forums: Homebrew and House Rules: Aristocrat/Noble/Adventurer/customizable Class.Azaelas Fayth (alias of JTMC93)https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2osns?AristocratNobleAdventurercustomizable-Class#62012-09-03T03:21:21Z2012-09-03T03:21:21Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Da'ath wrote:</div><blockquote> <div class="messageboard-quotee">Guy St-Amant wrote:</div><blockquote> <div class="messageboard-quotee">Azaelas Fayth wrote:</div><blockquote> Are these meant for NPCs? Or just generic classes? </blockquote>PCs, maybe a bit generic. </blockquote>If you have access to the d20 Conan: Atlantean Edition, I cannot stress how much I've enjoyed using the Noble Class from that game. It takes only a handful of minor adjustments to fit for PF. </blockquote><p>Isn't there a d20 Conan SRD?Da'ath wrote:Guy St-Amant wrote: Azaelas Fayth wrote: Are these meant for NPCs? Or just generic classes?
PCs, maybe a bit generic. If you have access to the d20 Conan: Atlantean Edition, I cannot stress how much I've enjoyed using the Noble Class from that game. It takes only a handful of minor adjustments to fit for PF. Isn't there a d20 Conan SRD?Azaelas Fayth (alias of JTMC93)2012-09-03T03:21:21Z