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So, I watched to majority of the RNC. I would normally watch this on Fox and decided to get both side or neutral perspective. I flipped through all the channels and the crew on PBS did a great job. They weren't over excited like fox can be and attack dogs like msnbc can be. Wish the national news was more neutral period. On another note I am really pissed at yahoo news that they may have fired the guy who said" republicans are partying while n#$%#@are drowning. But have not had article on the site that apologies.
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Well, its hard to neutrally cover something while neutrally doing your job as a journalist to point out that the person on stage is lying their ass off: not shading the truth, not a manipulating the facts, just outright lying.
Again, the daily show becomes the realist news on TV because comedy is the only way to deal with such absurdity.
~sighs~ who to vote for when I do not want either one in office.
I enjoy watching Chris Matthews have a nervous breakdown. Is that wrong?
I enjoy watching Chris Matthews have a nervous breakdown. Is that wrong?
Reince Prebus is an a#&@%*+.
I enjoy watching liberals criticize dumb policies wheter they are republican or democrat.
I enjoy watching Chris Matthews have a nervous breakdown. Is that wrong?Reince Prebus is an a**#&#@.
He's not the only catalyst, thank goodness!
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~sighs~ who to vote for when I do not want either one in office.
Gary Johnson -Libertarian
Jill Stein - GreenRon Paul (It's rumored he may run as an Independent.)
Stewart Alexander -Socialist
Virgil Goode - Constitution Party
As far as I know, those are the people on enough ballots or accepted write-ins to actually win the presidential campaign. While none of them really have a snowball's chance in hell of winning this cycle, only by bringing third parties to prominence can we end the two-party duopoly and do something about having to hold our noses and vote for a lesser evil every 4 years.
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~sighs~ who to vote for when I do not want either one in office.Green Party? Jill Stein is one hell of a woman.
While I agree (that's where my vote is going) I know it won't be the right answer for everybody. So some help if you're on the fence:
Also, Thing from Beyond, that was totally uncalled for.
Read this article. Yes, it's HotAir.
Doesn't change any of the facts presented.
Also it pretty much was going to be shut down in 2008 and they just dind't finish shutting it down until 2009. Oh we didn't finish closing the factory therefore it's Obama's fault which is implied.
edit the union considered it closed in December 2008. That is what Paul Ryan was implying in his speech.
Read this article. Yes, it's HotAir.
Doesn't change any of the facts presented.
The plant closure was only one of many half-truths Ryan is holding Obama responcible for that he had no control over.
For instance - the Republicans, led strongly by Ryan, held the debt ceiling hostage and caused the US credit rating to drop. Pretty much every new organization or independant group agrees to this, because the only reason the debt ceiling wasn't raised sooner is the Republican opposition to the President. ANd yet, Ryan has the gall to say that the crisis was Obama's fault. Its such a brazen lie that its rediculous.
Read this article. Yes, it's HotAir.
Doesn't change any of the facts presented.The plant closure was only one of many half-truths Ryan is holding Obama responcible for that he had no control over.
For instance - the Republicans, led strongly by Ryan, held the debt ceiling hostage and caused the US credit rating to drop. Pretty much every new organization or independant group agrees to this, because the only reason the debt ceiling wasn't raised sooner is the Republican opposition to the President. ANd yet, Ryan has the gall to say that the crisis was Obama's fault. Its such a brazen lie that its rediculous.
Again, you continue to ignore reality.
The nation's credit rating was cut to AA+ after S&P said the compromise made by Congress and President Obama this week to cut spending and boost the debt ceiling "falls short of what, in our view, would be necessary to stabilize the government's medium-term debt dynamics."
In other words, the agreement fell short of the cuts they said would be needed. But, to go on...
"We lowered our long-term rating on the U.S. because we believe that the prolonged controversy over raising the statutory debt ceiling and the related fiscal policy debate indicate that further near-term progress containing the growth in public spending, especially on entitlements, or on reaching an agreement on raising revenues is less likely than we previously assumed and will remain a contentious and fitful process,"
They did not lower our rating because the Republicans fought against raising the debt ceiling. They lowered our rating because the fight indicated to them that we would not reign in public spending, specifically with regard to entitlements.
That is on the Democrats. That is not a lie. That is what the facts point to. The work on raising revenues on Republicans.
And yet there is the continued nonsense claims that it is all the Republican fault. That claim is the lie. That claim is refuted by the facts.
Edit: reworded statement
The political brinksmanship of recent months highlights what we see as America’s governance and policymaking becoming less stable, less effective, and less predictable than what we previously believed. The statutory debt ceiling and the threat of default have become political bargaining chips in the debate over fiscal policy. Despite this year’s wide-ranging debate, in our view, the differences between political parties have proven to be extraordinarily difficult to bridge, and, as we see it, the resulting agreement fell well short of the comprehensive fiscal consolidation program that some proponents had envisaged until quite recently. Republicans and Democrats have only been able to agree to relatively modest savings on discretionary spending while delegating to the Select Committee decisions on more comprehensive measures. It appears that for now, new revenues have dropped down on the menu of policy options. In addition, the plan envisions only minor policy changes on Medicare and little change in other entitlements, the containment of which we and most other independent observers regard as key to long-term fiscal sustainability.Yup. Obama's fault.
Seeing as how he is in agreement with the Democrats controlling the Senate who won't enact the entitlement reform and how he chose to ignore the findings of his own debt commission regarding entitlements and how those entitlements not being cut are the reason for the loss in credit rating there is an enormous amount of blame to lay on the president.
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I fear with the election drawing closer, it will only get worse...
Well, its hard to neutrally cover something while neutrally doing your job as a journalist to point out that the person on stage is lying their ass off: not shading the truth, not a manipulating the facts, just outright lying.
Again, the daily show becomes the realist news on TV because comedy is the only way to deal with such absurdity.
So you are voting Obama right?
Every time I see John Stewart I recall that cameo he had in
Half Baked! I'll take the comedy and satire, not the spin.
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Actually Thing, you are wrong. If congress had just raised the debt ceiling like they had done so many times before, without the hysteria, there would have been no reduction in our credit rating. Because the debt ceiling was held hostage by politics, it freaked people out, hence the reduction.
As much as people don't want to admit it, you have to spend money to grow the economy. Austerity measures in a recession are a good way to create a double dip recession, which has come close to happening. Personally, I am not sure want all the complaining is about from the republicans when it comes to Obama. He caved on just about every issue to the point I wasn't sure what party he would be running under for re-election.
Actually Thing, you are wrong. If congress had just raised the debt ceiling like they had done so many times before, without the hysteria, there would have been no reduction in our credit rating. Because the debt ceiling was held hostage by politics, it freaked people out, hence the reduction.
No, the problem is that you are factually incorrect.
S&P explained why they lowered the rating. It was not as stated above. It was as stated by S&P and shown in this thread. Nothing has been shown counter to that.
Stop making s&++ up.
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