Last week's episode was meh, with a weirdly rushed ending, but it was probably the best thing Chris Chibnall ever wrote, at least that I have seen.
I really love Kate and hope we see her again.
She's made of bronze, not stone, fortunately. Plus, she's French.
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She's made of bronze, not stone, fortunately. Plus, she's French.
Point me at a quote that says Angels have to be made of stone? It only ever says "statues" as far as I know....
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Oh, and the image I referred to was at night, in what appears to be a pretty abandoned district, if that helps... So not too many people around to see her.
Aren't the angels creatures though and not "real" statues, kind of like gargoyles? So they look like statues but nobody ever carved them right? Clearly the Statue of Liberty was constructed. Unless they have the power to animate actual statues. Looking forward to this weekend's episode.
Aren't the angels creatures though and not "real" statues, kind of like gargoyles? So they look like statues but nobody ever carved them right? Clearly the Statue of Liberty was constructed. Unless they have the power to animate actual statues. Looking forward to this weekend's episode.
Exactly. Plus, like I said, she's French. Not to mention completely hollow on the inside and fitted with stairs and an elevator. Also, no one wants to relive Ghostbusters II again.
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I'll remind you that in Golarion the weeping angels are an alternate Gargoyle(Classic Monsters Revisited)
Anyway last night left me with mixed emotiions..sadnes at the departure of to Amy and Rory..joy at the fact that it seems that we have not seen the last of River Song and anticipation for the xmas special and the 50th anniversary season.
Aren't the angels creatures though and not "real" statues, kind of like gargoyles? So they look like statues but nobody ever carved them right? Clearly the Statue of Liberty was constructed. Unless they have the power to animate actual statues. Looking forward to this weekend's episode.Exactly. Plus, like I said, she's French. Not to mention completely hollow on the inside and fitted with stairs and an elevator. Also, no one wants to relive Ghostbusters II again.
So yeah. Kind of saw the ending coming, though I didn't expect
Looking forward to the next episode. Is it December yet?
Well it wouldn't be the first time a new companion has been found in a throwaway role in an earlier Episode would it
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As to the rest of the episode, it was probably my least favorite so far. The pacing seemed really off--there was a LOT of just running around being scared without much going on. The ending was still touching and I got teary but it seemed way more filler than I expected. Certain plot points were also way too anviliciously presented.
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I think the reason I liked it was that they went back to the Angels being the creepy things they were in "Blink." Having them going around actually killing people willy nilly in "The Time of Angels" made little sense, and the whole "action movie" feel to it didn't jibe well with the eerie presence the angels had prior to that. As a whole I'm not really sold on this season so far. I can't really put my finger on it, but it's just not gelling for some reason. My favorite so far has been "A Town Called Mercy."
I agree that the angels were used very well, there just wasn't a lot of very well paced out rising-falling action. Just a lot of confusion and then in the final few minutes of the episode there was the meat of the real content.
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Brook, I'd like to know that too.
I'm hoping that the "Once you've seen it, it can't be changed" line is foreshadowing for the new companion. Perhaps he picks her up earlier in her history, knowing full well where/how she will end up, but never telling her. Giving her the tools to be the genius she is in that episode? Perhaps he tries to change the course of her whole history to give himself some hope of saving Amy/Rory....
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Karen Gillian was also one of the oracle women in the Pompeii episode, IIRC.
For Clara, I assume she will have some connection to Oswin however, since she was announced to be the companion before the series aired. But I don't think they are necessarily the same person since, well, they have different names, even if it is an intentional set up.
In the case of Karen Gillian and Freema Agyeman, they were hired as the bit parts they played, but then the production team liked them so much they asked them to audition for the companions.
Happened a few times in classic who as well. Lalla Ward played princess Astra, and then in the next episode Romana regenerated into...Lalla Ward. And Colin Baker played some minor part before becoming the Sixth Doctor.
Come to think of it, there's also some companions who were not intended to be companions or were only possibly going to be companions, and some characters who were written as possible companions but then not asked to stay on. For example, based on these possibilities, somewhere there's an alternate universe where the Seventh Doctor traveled with Rae from "Delta and the Bannermen" and left Ace behind with Sabalom Glitz.
Was the whole begining/ending of the episode not possible based on what was said/shown in the begining. How was communication possible? Isnt the angels power through touch of any kind? Maybe i missed the explantion. Also how did 1 character even get there again?
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Happened a few times in classic who as well. Lalla Ward played princess Astra, and then in the next episode Romana regenerated into...Lalla Ward. And Colin Baker played some minor part before becoming the Sixth Doctor.Before she became River Song, Alex Kingston had a minor part in "Fires of Pompeii.
I believe you are thinking of Karen Gillan. As far as I know, Alex Kingston has only played River.
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During Season 5, the Doctor had, essentially, one companion: Amy.
During Season 6, the Doctor had two or three companions: Amy and Rory (and maybe River).
During the first half of Season 7, the Doctor has had one companion, the Ponds as a couple.
In Season 5, it made sense for Amy to lose Rory and soldier on. In Season 7, it would have been unthinkable.
Anyone else notice that in this episode, River and the Doctor aren't traveling backwards to each other?
This has been true ever since Melody was born. Can't exactly go any earlier than that.
This may be the last time the Doctor and his wife see each other as husband and wife too
Theirs was a marriage of convenience. His true wife will always be the TARDIS. ;)
Anyone else notice that in this episode, River and the Doctor aren't traveling backwards to each other?This has been true ever since Melody was born. Can't exactly go any earlier than that.
Theirs was a marriage of convenience. His true wife will always be the TARDIS. ;)
This may be the last time the Doctor and his wife see each other as husband and wife tooWho says that Time Lords are monogamous? The Doctor just might have as many wives as a legendary truck driver. :)
"They don't call her the Virgin Queen any more." And I think he was married to Marilyn Monroe... very briefly.
There may be many marriages but in my mind, I know who exactly the OTP is. :)
(Please note I am just being silly here and not looking for a serious discussion of the Doctor's relationships. Also he was engaged to Cameca way back in the Aztecs.)
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From what I understand, she and Arthur are gone for good. They're already working on new projects in fact. Gillian expressed her preference that once she's off she wants it to be for good.Last week's episode was meh, with a weirdly rushed ending, but it was probably the best thing Chris Chibnall ever wrote, at least that I have seen.
I really love Kate and hope we see her again.
I believe that DQ meant Kate Stewart, daughter of Brigadier Lethbridge-Stewart.
I believe that DQ meant Kate Stewart, daughter of Brigadier Lethbridge-Stewart.Looks more like more of a one off role to me. I wouldn't be surprised if they reused the actress though as per Who tradition.
I wouldn't be so sure. The character of Kate Lethbridge Stewart first appeared in spin-off media, most notably the 90's direct-to-video story, "Downtime" (she was played by a different actor in that, though). This is a deliberate move to bring her into canon, so I'll be very surprised if she doesn't become a recurring character. Perhaps not as frequently as the Brigadier used to appear, but I'm pretty sure we'll see her again.
I wouldn't be so sure. The character of Kate Lethbridge Stewart first appeared in spin-off media, most notably the 90's direct-to-video story, "Downtime" (she was played by a different actor in that, though). This is a deliberate move to bring her into canon, so I'll be very surprised if she doesn't become a recurring character. Perhaps not as frequently as the Brigadier used to appear, but I'm pretty sure we'll see her again.As I understand it, spin off media, including the Big Finish Audio series is not considered canon to the actual series. But then again the picture on that is murky at best.
You're right. Spin-off media isn't canon. However, Kate Stewart who appeared in "The Power of Three" is deliberately based on Kate Lethbridge Stewart from the spin-off media. As I said, this is a move to make a non-canon character canon. They're not likely to ever directly reference the spin-off media, but the character is essentially the same person.
But canonicity aside, I'm pretty sure we'll see the character again. Of course, I'm just conjecturing, so who knows?
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As I understand it, spin off media, including the Big Finish Audio series is not considered canon to the actual series. But then again the picture on that is murky at best.
Until it's bought into canon by being included in the series.
I would be amazed if we didn't see Kate again. The daughter of the most significant ally of the Doctor not appearing again? No way. We will see her (and UNIT) again.
The prequel to the Christmas Special is up.
My favorite bits were with Matt and Jenna.
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The prequel to the Christmas Special is up.My favorite bits were with Matt and Jenna.
Definitely, which is a good thing...
I was bugged a bit by the Doctor straying from River a little - he's clearly taken with Oswin/Clara - but then I looked around and found that a mini-episode called "Last Night" showed earlier in the year with the clear implication that River and the Doctor's encounters have drawn to an end. At least for the moment, she's deceased, sorta, in the Doctor's timeline.
I doubt they'll stick to it, but it provides a little closure.
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The prequel to the Christmas Special is up.My favorite bits were with Matt and Jenna.Definitely, which is a good thing...
I was bugged a bit by the Doctor straying from River a little - he's clearly taken with Oswin/Clara - but then I looked around and found that a mini-episode called "Last Night" showed earlier in the year with the clear implication that River and the Doctor's encounters have drawn to an end. At least for the moment, she's deceased, sorta, in the Doctor's timeline.
I doubt they'll stick to it, but it provides a little closure.
I don't think that "Last Night" really implies that their timelines won't cross again. After all, they've never been even remotely linear in their meetings. Plus, I believe she's already scheduled to be a part of Series 7 Part 2.
As for the "marriage", I don't really consider it to be a real marriage. While River's last appearance showed that she does consider it to be a real marraige, the circumstances behind it were more based on convenience than they were on any real feelings. I mean, they're a husband and wife who spend more time apart than together, and neither is really sure if the other is aware of the marriage when they first meet up each time.