How does the Reaper Bones Kickstarter affect your future "spend"?


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Grand Lodge

Just after tax return time and with the prospect of a bonus a few months from now I was planning on sinking about $100 into either single D&D mini's on ebay or some PF mini sets.

Now?

I can't see myself spending any money of figures for the next 6-18 months.

I have enough minis to tie me over for the next few months until March, but may be tempted to buy something that catches my eye but after March I will have about 220+ new figures and such a variety that, coupled with my existing D&D minis, I am pretty much done.

How will affect your budget, assuming you are buying?


Won't affect mine at all. There's a lot of cool minis included, but when I create a character, I go looking for a mini to match. A lot of the minis included don't typically fall into my niche of minis I play. I'll still probably be buying minis at about the same pace as I have been. This was just too good an opportunity to pass up.


Dunno.

In what is around 30 years of gaming I have never bought minis, yet I'm just hours away from dropping $550USD on some. Prior to this I was thinking of buying MAYBE $100 worth over the next while, and about $70 on a couple of bestiary box paper mini's.

So if anything I will now probably start actually buying minis, although not for a while after I get this huge amount all painted up!

Dark Archive

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I've moved buying the huge case for Runelords til at least after my next pay day, and am even less certain than I was already about the Shattered Star minis in January.


I'm going to have to get about 30 more bottle of paint...

Dark Archive

I still need a ton of Post-Apocalypse style minis: Mutants, Weird creatures, robots, guys in powered armor, guys in anti-ballistic/riot armor, an some road warrior types (mixed tech gear), vehicles (can be a different scale -need them for vehicular battles), and just other stuff like buildings, stuff in shops, base features, etc.

Can't seem to find any at the same scale (25/28mm). I do have a some of these types of minis, but they are pretty scarce as an available resource online or in stores.

On the Fantasy side, after this kickstarter I think I am going to be good for awhile. Still missing that Huge Green Dragon Wotc never made (have all the other ones), beyond that I have a few thousand minis to cover me on any occasion.

I will still pick up the occasional exceptional single, but this KS has really filled out alot of vacancies: BBEG in armor, wizards, the haunts. etc. I added some xtra cahs to my KS so the things I need - Giants, an extra hydra - i'll pick up when this KS closes.

Otherworld minis still has the best "old school" type sculpts out there ad I will still buy singles from them.

Oh yeah, and like Blitzkrieg above me said - more paint and maybe another case or two (to pull some of my other minis out of retirement).

The Exchange Contributor, RPG Superstar 2010 Top 16

@Auxmaulous - If you want to trade for some of the bones future/ zombie hunter/ modern dudes let me know. I also have a fair number of horrorclix minis which are along those lines.

Dark Archive

Dennis Baker wrote:
@Auxmaulous - If you want to trade for some of the bones future/ zombie hunter/ modern dudes let me know. I also have a fair number of horrorclix minis which are along those lines.

That would be great - I also need alot of modern horror mini's too. When this thing closes I suspect there will be a fair set of trading going on, but yeah Dennis - that sounds like a good idea.


You could count me in for trading any of the non-fantasy stuff!

Grand Lodge

I may need more paint. But this will not stop me from buying PPMs.


@Auxmalous - WotC did do a Huge green, Elder Green Dragon from DDM2 is technically huge (although it is the smallest of the Huges. Or are you talking about the fact that the never made a Gargantuan Green to go with the Gargantuan Black, Blue, White, and Colossal Red, and then Orcus and dicontinued the line?

As for how this will affect my mini's purchasing, it won't really. Still going to be picking up PB:RotRL (though as singles and eBaying for the Rune Giant, I just don't need as many duplicates of unique characters as I know I'll get buying a case), And I'll be re-subscribing to Pathfinder Battles with Shattered Star.

As for unpainted, I'll probably buy a couple per month or as needed for my campaign. so who knows.


I'm done until at least November with the Dungeon Command Undead set.

Not done in by the Reaper Kickstarter, but by Rise of the Runelords PPM, Dungeon Crawler set 2 & 3 PPM, and Fantasy Flight's Arkham Horror Wave 4 PPM all coming at the same time.


I think the only impact the Kickstarter will have on my miniatures buying patterns is that I'm going to have to double check that i don't buy things between now and march that I don't want extra copies of. Hopefully I won't have too many PC deaths between now and then...

Dark Archive

Leo_Negri wrote:
@Auxmalous - WotC did do a Huge green, Elder Green Dragon from DDM2 is technically huge (although it is the smallest of the Huges. Or are you talking about the fact that the never made a Gargantuan Green to go with the Gargantuan Black, Blue, White, and Colossal Red, and then Orcus and dicontinued the line?

You are correct - what I meant was in the Gargantuan series - I have the White, Red, Black and Blue box sets that came out but the Green dragon never materialized.

I thought with the Orcus set there was a chance that they would revisit the line and finish out the chromatics but alas - it hasn't happen.

Grand Lodge

Pathfinder Adventure, Rulebook Subscriber

I'm horribly undisciplined when it comes to spending money. I've dropped around $400 this month on minis, Reaper and otherwise. :/ I keep telling myself I don't have the money, but then I pledge more Kickstarters. At least the Castles and Crusades KS was a good deal at $40.

Aux, I will also not be needing the space marines and other non-fantasy minis. Let me know if you need more.


I'm going to continue to buy minis.

BUT -- I won't be buying any more cases or sets for a good long while. I'll be getting singles when I need a mini for a PC or an important NPC.

Dark Archive

I will definitely need more, Sounds good TOZ. I doubt I will keep some of my fantasy PC types (already have a ton of those), so a trade would be good for me.

Crap - I didn't know about the C&C kickstarter - those guys are good people. I will but their 5th ed when I can find it.

Depending on the trades I may even though in a box of an unopened Dragoneye or Harbinger boosters I still have left in my vault.

Grand Lodge

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Oh snap. *salivates*

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Well, AFTER I pledged... I hit some unexpected financial drain.

So I won't be buying much of anything whether I planned to or not after that initial expenditure.

Generally speaking, I tend to buy a chunk of minis once or twice a year. This will probably end up being my "chunk" for a couple years to come, but I doubtless will need minis for individual PCs and just random project ideas that the Bones minis will not satisfy. And of course I'll run out of paint eventually and have to replace those, and I am addicted to Reaper Master Series so they'll get my money there at least.

So I doubt I will never buy minis again... it may slow purchasing... but as I said, other circumstances would have slowed it anyway. At least I have one last hurrah before tightening the belt. :)

Dark Archive RPG Superstar 2013 Top 32

I will probably never buy minis again after the Reaper shipment comes.


TriOmegaZero wrote:

I'm horribly undisciplined when it comes to spending money. I've dropped around $400 this month on minis, Reaper and otherwise. :/ I keep telling myself I don't have the money, but then I pledge more Kickstarters. At least the Castles and Crusades KS was a good deal at $40.

Aux, I will also not be needing the space marines and other non-fantasy minis. Let me know if you need more.

I'm having a hard time not throwing in for Cool Mini or Not's current one, Relic Knights, even though I only want a few of the minis and find some offensive.

Kickstarter is addicting.

Sczarni

I have 300 minis in my painting queue now, and I bought in at vampire level plus a bunch of extras.... don't thing this will effect it at all

Grand Lodge

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Caineach wrote:
Kickstarter is addicting.

*looks at his 14-odd KS pledges* Yeah. *winces*


This has not affected my future spend at all. Initially I balked at Paizo's Miniatures citing them as too costly. When I pledged $100 for the Reaper KS I sort of felt like a hypocrite though until it really started taking off. In the end I pledged almost $260 and even though the mini's are unpainted it STILL feels like a better deal than Paizo's miniatures.

Of course because I love Paizo so much I did order the Bestiary Box Pawns and plan on subscribing to their Pawn line after the NPC Pawn Box. Way I see it best of both worlds there. I still get to support Paizo and and also support Reaper as well.


TriOmegaZero wrote:
Caineach wrote:
Kickstarter is addicting.
*looks at his 14-odd KS pledges* Yeah. *winces*

Newbie. I'm at 63 and counting :)

Grand Lodge

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I was burned by my first one. It's currently two years past the due date.

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No effect. I have plenty of assembled, unpainted minis, and plenty of unassembled minis. Yet I keep buying more minis that look cool and would be fun to paint.

I guess in the same way that having 10,000 movies available for streaming from Netflix doesn't change that I still saw Batman in the theater and I'll still go see The Hobbit in the theater, as well as other movies I think will be interesting. I could spend an entire year watching cool videos on YouTube and Netflix and still not be done with new content, but I'll still make plans to purchase theater-seat-time for other cool new content.

Scarab Sages Reaper Miniatures

Dotting. Interesting replies!

The Exchange Contributor, RPG Superstar 2010 Top 16

I'm an intermittent buyer, grabbing deals when I spot them and this expense will be long forgotten by March, so it won't likely affect mini buying much at all.

On the brighter side, this is coming in March, by the time it comes around it will be like Christmas.

The Exchange

Given that we had just gone through several crates of minis in the garage and sorted them into piles for painting (and by who) and a pile for selling or giving away as raffle prizes, we had a moratorium on buying new minis until we had painted some of our stock.

Then Reaper came along with this :)

So I think that we are still susceptible to a good deal, although Reaper could have got more out of us if they hadn't lost the plot with the last few stretch goals.

The Exchange Contributor, RPG Superstar 2010 Top 16

brock, no the other one... wrote:
So I think that we are still susceptible to a good deal, although Reaper could have got more out of us if they hadn't lost the plot with the last few stretch goals.

They raised 100 times their initial goal on this project. They were hoping to fund a line of 30 bones minis, by March they will have close to 250 in the line just to meet this project.

Looking at the plot of their fundraising it seems unlikely they could have squeezed too much more out of it. The average pledge went from 190-194 in the eight hours of the fundraising. Obviously some of the backers liked the final two reveals.

Are you honestly disappointed in the deal you are getting here?

Liberty's Edge

Auxmaulous wrote:
Dennis Baker wrote:
@Auxmaulous - If you want to trade for some of the bones future/ zombie hunter/ modern dudes let me know. I also have a fair number of horrorclix minis which are along those lines.
That would be great - I also need alot of modern horror mini's too. When this thing closes I suspect there will be a fair set of trading going on, but yeah Dennis - that sounds like a good idea.

I will also be in that boat. Anyone interested in trading my Chronoscope, IMEF Marines, Zombie Hunters and Nova Bones for some of you other Bones (the non-modern ones) let me know!

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Not much for me, probably.

Turned around and dropped $xx for the Rune Giant today since I hadn't pre-ordered a full case. It never ends...

The Exchange Contributor, RPG Superstar 2010 Top 16

Speaking of blowouts... Sounds like the Runelords set is going to sell out quickly!


Marc Radle wrote:
I will also be in that boat. Anyone interested in trading my Chronoscope, IMEF Marines, Zombie Hunters and Nova Bones for some of you other Bones (the non-modern ones) let me know!

See the Reaper forums for a Kickstarter trading thread.

Myself, I think I'm going to stop buying games. I've already pre-ordered the Dungeon Command games. I've barely played D&D since 2e and was "meh" about D&D Next. FFG has finished the Arkham boardgame series. Ditto with RGG and Dominion.

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Dennis Baker wrote:
brock, no the other one... wrote:
So I think that we are still susceptible to a good deal, although Reaper could have got more out of us if they hadn't lost the plot with the last few stretch goals.

They raised 100 times their initial goal on this project. They were hoping to fund a line of 30 bones minis, by March they will have close to 250 in the line just to meet this project.

Looking at the plot of their fundraising it seems unlikely they could have squeezed too much more out of it. The average pledge went from 190-194 in the eight hours of the fundraising. Obviously some of the backers liked the final two reveals.

Are you honestly disappointed in the deal you are getting here?

Disappointed? Good gods no!

However, the PDFs seemed like a really odd choice for the stretch goals, especially around such a major milestone and in the final push. That left me feeling really deflated. I had expected a number of really cool minis designed to tempt people into adding $10 to their pledges. I was also surprised that the didn't include the last few iconics. Or pugwampis.

So, for me, once the PDFs were announced, I lost most of my interest in keeping on the pulse of the kickstarter for the last few hours. If those had instead been some really epic minis, I'd have been fired up to keep looking for more additions to load onto the pledge. They could have got more cash out of me. As to whether collecting that cash would have made financial sense... I suspect that they had reached the stage where adding more minis would have meant a decrease in profits over all.

I just hope that they managed to recycle the servers by pouring the molten metal into moulds :)


I have to agree with brock, I felt the same too. And with the familiars, they were really good stretch goal and to find them suddenly complete was strange. Of course, not to denigrate significantly this amazing KS.

Anyway, this is probably the kick-start I need to start grabbing mini's again.


I'm similar "to the other brock" in that I was looking for the rest of the iconics (especially Sajan and Harsk) and was ready to drop another $20-25 for that. The last goals were unfortunately of little interest to me. I won't mind having the free PDFs, but they weren't goals for me in the sense of getting more cash...

The Exchange Contributor, RPG Superstar 2010 Top 16

See I liked all the (non-PDF) stretch goals near the end. I certainly liked the halflings and the familiars. I'll probably buy a couple sets of each of those. I also loved the dragon at the end and the Cthulu mini is very tempting.

PDFs didn't thrill me either, but the one PDF only goal was here and gone in three hours so hardly a momentum killer and they followed it with the familiars which was great.


Dennis Baker wrote:

See I liked all the (non-PDF) stretch goals near the end. I certainly liked the halflings and the familiars. I'll probably buy a couple sets of each of those. I also loved the dragon at the end and the Cthulu mini is very tempting.

PDFs didn't thrill me either, but the one PDF only goal was here and gone in three hours so hardly a momentum killer and they followed it with the familiars which was great.

Also, the image was leaked of the familiars for a few minutes after the PDF stretch goal was announced, so everyone in the comments section was talking about the awesome next familiars.


I was happy with the familiars and halflings, just not enough to give them any more money...


erian_7 wrote:
I was happy with the familiars and halflings, just not enough to give them any more money...

I'm guessing that later in the kickstarter they were targetting new people by getting everyone to talk about how great a deal it was more than getting people to buy in for more. I'm guessing they looked at how much each backer was buying in extras and decided that most people were not going to up their pledges for every new mold. The last few days the average pledge per backer went down from a high around 200 down below 190 and then back up to 195. They don't really know which options people are buying, and if they don't sell enough then some of the optional molds could run a loss. They need to make sure that their bases are covered. Introducing a mold that wouldn't get significant numbers of people to buy in would have been a loss, so they needed to make sure it was a big ticket. Also, having 2 big items at the end when they had the most people to advertize it to fresh was a good plan.

Now, as for why they didn't release the other iconics, I'm not sure. I would have liked to see them. I do notice that none of the minis in the vampire pledge level appear to have multiple parts. They seem to be all solid casts. The iconics that are not present I'm not sure about.


It ws really at the $3 million mark where they lost me. Their last pitch was hurt for me in that I don't need a gigantic death dragon and don't use any Cthulhu stuff, so what should have been a big draw for minis wasn't for me. Both made sense as end-caps, just not for me. Really, I'd have thought the remaining iconics would have been earlier (at around $2 million).

The missing iconics just seemed to leave a hole of sorts in the overall Pathfinder support that seemed strange (that and I really like Sajan). I'm not disappointed with the overall haul by any stretch, though!


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I'm probably going to be using these miniatures mostly for enemies and such, and I'll keep on buying specific metal minis for my characters. Hopefully I won't have to buy paint for a long time though, I'm getting three of their sets, haha.


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If anything I will probably spend more. I'm still missing Beholders, Giants and many monsters. And I will definitely get that Cthulhu that got added at the end, so I am awaiting the link so I can get more addons.

I wish there was a colossal green. And If they ever make a colossal Tiamat I don't care what it cost ill get it. I do hope their Bones line concentrates on monsters, heroes and such are well represent in their metal minis.


I would guess that they would have to pay Paizo a royalty for each PF mini they handed out as part of the ks. If that is the case, then they probably had to balance out putting some in order to drum up support from the PF fans (and to get advertisement from Paizo) with not putting too many in and losing money on them.


I am a fickle miniature buyer. I tend to be "all-in" on something or not very interested at all. So last year when I got very interested in expanding my miniature collection, I went from around 50 miniatures to about 2,000 in about two months. Now I'm back in the "miniatures, ho hum" phase again. Which is good because otherwise I'd have spent a fortune on these kickstarters.

I was very frugal in my collection expansion. I built out my collection at an average cost of less than a quarter per mini.

Scarab Sages

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Sean K Reynolds wrote:
No effect. I have plenty of assembled, unpainted minis, and plenty of unassembled minis. Yet I keep buying more minis that look cool and would be fun to paint.

This is me....all I have now is minis I would not normally have purchased (like all the dragons) as they are generally too expensive. The only effect is that I may think of characters to use the minis. I normally design a character around a cool figure, not the other way round.

Dark Archive RPG Superstar 2013 Top 32

I spent nearly three times as much money on this Kickstarter as I have spent on all other miniatures in my entire life up until now.

I am not much of a minis buyer, and have usually been content to use my very sparse collection of minis in combination with pennies, bottle caps, and other odds and ends.

This deal really was too good to pass up, though, so I decided to dive on it. No longer will I need to use second-rate minis! No more representing an orc warband with dimes! An empty can of Mountain Dew will no longer serve as a stand in for any Huge creature! VIVA LA REVOLUCION!

The Exchange Contributor, RPG Superstar 2010 Top 16

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Fatespinner wrote:

I spent nearly three times as much money on this Kickstarter as I have spent on all other miniatures in my entire life up until now.

I am not much of a minis buyer, and have usually been content to use my very sparse collection of minis in combination with pennies, bottle caps, and other odds and ends.

This deal really was too good to pass up, though, so I decided to dive on it. No longer will I need to use second-rate minis! No more representing an orc warband with dimes! An empty can of Mountain Dew will no longer serve as a stand in for any Huge creature! VIVA LA REVOLUCION!

The mountain dew can will now be the flying base for the huge creature ;)

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