Milking a spiders venom.


Rules Questions


Could i summon a giant crab spider via the spider summoner racial feat.
And then milk it for its venom (using a jar with a bit of canvas stretched over the top) to be used by the party Archer-fighter (whos also a drow) .


Summoned creatures or parts therof do no stick around after the spell wears off.


Added to my collection of best thread titles ever.

Also, I think someone should do a picture of the Fighter milking those spider fangs. Or an Int 3 Barbarian trying to milk the legs.

Anyway, normal answer would be yes, but it's really up to your GM to decide. Dunno if the poison disappears entirely when the duration of the summoning expires. It surely doesn't disappear if it's in someone's veins, at least.


Astral Wanderer wrote:

Added to my collection of best thread titles ever.

Also, I think someone should do a picture of the Fighter milking those spider fangs. Or an Int 3 Barbarian trying to milk the legs.

Anyway, normal answer would be yes, but it's really up to your GM to decide. Dunno if the poison disappears entirely when the duration of the summoning expires. It surely doesn't disappear if it's in someone's veins, at least.

Check the magic section of the PHB. Summoned creatures and parts thereof disappear when the spell ends. If you want it to last longer try a binding spell, such as Planar binding.


However, the venom would probably work until then. So if there's something only the archer can hit...


I should have said i was playing as a master summoner with the 1 min / lvl duration .

The question is how long would the process take, how many arrowheads could be poisoned within said time .

Its a parlor trick i thought up for a ambush to get a small edge.

Technically the viper is capable of this tactic as well but i prefer the crab spider for the 14 dc.

Also could i use it as splash weapon (tossing the jar against the floor targetting ac5) against certain creatures?

Certain creatures whose insides are on the outside should be effected by venoms as if they were contact poisons .


Just imagine later on the party fighter milking a Ogre Spider.

Drow master summoners giving their party members nightmares one spider at a time.


Tiny Coffee Golem wrote:
Check the magic section of the PHB. Summoned creatures and parts thereof disappear when the spell ends.

Not really sure that extracted poison would be considered a part of the creature. Nowhere it is said that a poisoned creature is immediately freed from the affliction if the summoned creature that caused it disappears for end-duration, and also it'd be quite odd that, say, a summoned creature spits on someone's face, then disappears, and the target is perfectly clean again.


Astral Wanderer wrote:
Tiny Coffee Golem wrote:
Check the magic section of the PHB. Summoned creatures and parts thereof disappear when the spell ends.
Not really sure that extracted poison would be considered a part of the creature. Nowhere it is said that a poisoned creature is immediately freed from the affliction if the summoned creature that caused it disappears for end-duration, and also it'd be quite odd that, say, a summoned creature spits on someone's face, then disappears, and the target is perfectly clean again.

I'll have to dig up where it is, but somewhere it says that summoned (not called) creatures parts only last as long as they do. It may be a 3.5 memory, but I swear i thought I saw it in pathfinder.


I made a thread to clarify.


Tiny Coffee Golem wrote:
I made a thread to clarify.

if it turns out that bodily fluids last indefinately on a serious note id stock up on the dc 28 giant tarantula venom (2 from augment summoning 2 from spider summoner).

On a not so serious note ill also stock up on rhino piss to fill the canteen of that pesky dwarf inquisitor in my group.

Sovereign Court

I couldn't help but think of Robert DeNiro's line about milking from "Meet the Parents"


Stasiscell wrote:
...if it turns out that bodily fluids last indefinately ...

I really doubt they do, but I have no RAW proof at the moment.

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