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Hey all.
So the "Sin Eater" Archtype of inquisitor looed cool, however I have a question.
Its replacement for domain is the following
Eat Sin(Sp)
At 1st level, as a free action, when the sin eater inquisitor kills an enemy, she may eat the sins of that enemy by spending 1 minute adjacent to its corpse. This provokes attacks of opportunity. The inquisitor can rush this ritual, performing it as a full-round action that provokes attacks of opportunity, but she only gains half the normal benefit (see below).
Eating the enemy’s sins heals the inquisitor of a number of hit points of damage equal to 1d8 + her inquisitor level (maximum +5). The enemy must have been killed by the sin eater within the last hour, and it must have had at least as many Hit Dice as half the inquisitor’s level. The inquisitor can use this ability once for each enemy she kills. This ability has no effect on mindless creatures or those with Intelligence 2 or less.
At 5th level, the healing increases to 2d8 plus her inquisitor level (maximum +10); it increases to 3d8 + her inquisitor level (maximum +15) at 9th level and to 4d8 + her inquisitor level (maximum +20) at 13th level.
In some faiths, this “eating” is a purely symbolic act, while in others, the inquisitor must eat a small amount of food and water as part of the ritual. A few extreme faiths actually require the inquisitor to eat some of the body of the slain enemy.
At 8th level, when a sin eater eats the sins of a creature that would rise as an undead (such as someone slain by a shadow, spectre, or vampire), the sin eater may choose to accept 1 temporary negative level to absorb the taint in the corpse, preventing it from rising as an undead. This negative level can be removed with the appropriate magic, though it automatically expires after 24 hours, and never becomes a permanent negative level. At the GM’s discretion, this ability may prevent a ghost from using its rejuvenation ability.
This ability replaces an inquisitor’s domain.
I bolded the relevent parts.
So you can only use it on a creature YOU kill. fair enough.
But if thats the case how the hell does the 8th level power even work?
Any help would be great.
Two possible answers:
1) The rules for the 8th level ability are screwed up.
2) The Inquisitor can eat the sins of any creature, but only gets a mechanical advantage from those he kills himself, except in the very specific case given by the 8th level ability.
I'd go with option 2.
I apreciate the input.
What don't you understand you do your "sin eating" on a creature killed by a shadow for example and you can take one negative level so it won't rise.
you also get the healing
What don't you understand you do your "sin eating" on a creature killed by a shadow for example and you can take one negative level so it won't rise.
you also get the healing
And yes I agree that is how it should be.
However "eat sin" says it only works on something YOU kill.
then the 8th level calls out eating sin from something killed by the undead, and you cant actually do that.
Thats the problem.
What don't you understand you do your "sin eating" on a creature killed by a shadow for example and you can take one negative level so it won't rise.
you also get the healing
And yes I agree that is how it should be.
However "eat sin" says it only works on something YOU kill.
then the 8th level calls out eating sin from something killed by the undead, and you cant actually do that.
Thats the problem.
oh okay I missed that part DOOOHHH! i am not up on my dead rising form the dead rules, but is it possible for a creature to be struck by some sort of undead then you kill it? a Vargioile for instance would that count. the vargouille's bite slowly transforms you into one.
Also lots of undead are created by fluff not specific effects. Ghosts from horrible murders, ghouls from canibles.Well sure and thats great except it calls out
such as someone slain by a shadow, spectre, or vampire
I am of the oppinion that the level 8 allows you to expand how it works, it would just be nice if it SAID that.
Nah, the level 8 ability is naturally for a sin eater who is also a shadow, spectre, or vampire, but doesn't want to create more of its kind :)
Brilliant.
Also lots of undead are created by fluff not specific effects. Ghosts from horrible murders, ghouls from canibles.Well sure and thats great except it calls outsuch as someone slain by a shadow, spectre, or vampireI am of the oppinion that the level 8 allows you to expand how it works, it would just be nice if it SAID that.
I think that is just an explanatory paragraph for clarification purposes..