Paizo Top Nav Branding
Welcome, guest! | Sign In | My Account | My Subscriptions | My Downloads | My Wishlists | Shopping Cart   Shopping Cart | Help/FAQ
About Paizo   Messageboards   News   Paizo Blog   Help/FAQ  
Pathfinder Roleplaying Game
Pathfinder Society

Pathfinder Beginner Box

Pathfinder Adventure Card Game

Pathfinder Comics

PaizoCon 2013!

Search

Links
Shop
Messageboards

The Shackled Hut (GM Reference), by flamethrower49

Three way discussion, by Lord Foul II

Have you ever walked out on a DM, mid combat?, by Muad'Dib

The Polymorph (Any Object) Recurrence, or: Flying Tiger Queen of the Sofa Druids, by TetsujinOni

That's very tempting, Paracountess... but-, by Pontificor the Great

FAWTL refugee thread, by The 8th Dwarf

Rerolls on day jobs?, by Chernobyl

Animal Companion: Wolf vs. Dog -- How Does This Work?, by n00bxqb

[Frog God Games / Center Stage Miniatures] Tome of Horrors Minis!, by DSXMachina

Overheard at the Paizo office, by Chris Lambertz

Paizo Blog: Ultimate Campaign: WAR! What is it Good For?, by Mort the Cleverly Named

Dodgy accounts spamming the forums with advertising material, by bugleyman

>>Ask *James Jacobs* ALL your Questions Here!<<, by James Jacobs

New Armor ability: Flexible, by Oceanshieldwolf

undead troubles..., by lifeless

Online Campaigns

We Be Pirates, You Be Booty! ICThread., by DM Amazing Red

Recruitment for Shattered Star AP, by Signboy77

Tales of Agartha: the Avalon Chronicles, by Gareth Myrrdin

S Founder's "The Darkest Vengeance", by Azdak Ejderha

Behold the Galaxy [Unique Sci-Fi Campaign], by Micaiah Aden

Shackled City (Pathfinder) - GM_Chris - OOC, by Finneas Glenn

Interest Check Way of the Wicked, by tribeof1

We Be Pirates, You Be Booty! Ooc Thread, by DM Amazing Red

Shadows of the Past, by Severus Aldenhyne

[OOC] Jörmungandr's Carrion Crown, by Valen Stellori

PFS 3.21 Temple of Empyreal Enlightenment, by EndlessForms

Kingmaker!, by Theodric Lebeda

The Secrets of the Sunderlands, by Balion Greyhands

GM Tektites PFS First Steps (First Run) Group B, by Takahiro

The March of Kings, by Guðrún

Paizo / Messageboards / Paizo Publishing / Pathfinder® / Pathfinder Society® / Faction Talk / Qadira
RSS Facebook Twitter Email

The Silver Coin League


Qadira

Search Thread
Search this Thread:
Qadira

The league was formed by a group of Paladins who have seen the influence and suffering that religion, nationalism and magic has bought the world and thus they disdain them all, especially magic.

The League believes that the only constant force that all respect (whether through greed, influence or economic sanctions), is money and trade. A Chellish Hellknight and a Paladin of Erastil both respect and are beholden to money.

By making Qadira the strongest faction, and amassing their influence and wealth, real global change can be effectuated. If managed correctly by "Good" people, such as those of the League who gain sufficient fame/rank/influence, it can bring a lasting and sustaining peace to the world.

To that end, Paladins of the League are always keeping in mind the "Greater Good" of the world rather than the individual deeds that may seem out of place to a LG Paladin. Quite often you will hear a Paladin of the League say, "No more band-aid solutions".

Major:
Therefore, these Paladins do not worship a "false god" or pay heed to organised religion. Instead they follow a philosophy of "Greater Good".

Minor:
No "magic": Potions can be "alchemical", +1 items are "reinforced"
Silver adornments: Gold is the metal of greed and corruption.

Identifiers:
All members may wear a silver signet ring (5gp) with the League logo emblazoned upon the face.

Membership:
The League is technically open to all Qadiran PCs though Paladins and Cavaliers are most common.

Spell-casters are not welcome.

Those Paladins of sufficient level to gain access to abilities that replicate spells often refer to them as "acts of focus" and refrain from using those that have obvious outwardly-appearing effects. Most Paladin "spells" are actually quite subtle in their appearance.

eg. "Bless" is simply the "rightness" of the Paladin being focussed through their weapon - all good. "Create water" - not so good.

Shadow Lodge **

Several of your bits may run afoul of the no reflavoring PFS rules. You may wish to consult the guide to organized play carefully.

Qadira

There are no "rules" changes in anything listed above. It is 100% flavour.

Silver Crusade *

Bloodlust wrote:
There are no "rules" changes in anything listed above. It is 100% flavour.

Golarion really doesn't do atheistic, maltheistic, or dystheistic paladins. They're drawing their power from a divine source

Quote the guide:

Characters who do not receive powers from a divine source may choose to be atheists or to have no deity at all

Grand Lodge **

Bloodlust wrote:
There are no "rules" changes in anything listed above. It is 100% flavour.

Players had better distinctly understand that and give correct information to their GMs if they encounter a detect magic, dispel magic or antimagic field.

Silver Crusade *** Venture-Lieutenant, Indiana—Bloomington aka CanisDirus

It sounds like you're trying to find a way to get paladins/clerics to be able to follow the Prophecies of Kalistrade (based in the country of Druma). While yes they're a religious organization, they don't give any divine powers (as far as I know at least).

Prophecies of Kalistrade

Oracles?
Yes, definitely works fine.

Clerics?

PRD wrote:
"As their powers are influenced by their faith, all clerics must focus their worship upon a divine source. While the vast majority of clerics revere a specific deity, a small number dedicate themselves to a divine concept worthy of devotion—such as battle, death, justice, or knowledge—free of a deific abstraction."

Given your wording, I could see it maybe, yea.

Paladins?

PRD wrote:
"Knights, crusaders, and law-bringers, paladins seek not just to spread divine justice but to embody the teachings of the virtuous deities they serve."

Yea, I just don't see that working based on the class as-written.

Silver Crusade *** Venture-Lieutenant, Indiana—Bloomington aka CanisDirus

Bloodlust wrote:


I cannot find anywhere where is says that a Paladin MUST follow a god. I can find references that go against that though:

Well, reading a bit deeper into the Paladin class:

PRD wrote:
Divine Bond (Sp): Upon reaching 5th level, a paladin forms a divine bond with her god. This bond can take one of two forms. Once the form is chosen, it cannot be changed.

RAI and RAW that means a paladin has a (singular) god. Their code of conduct might be influenced by different elements, as you stated, but that has been part of the Paladin motif since...well...I think the 1970s?

Silver Crusade *** Venture-Lieutenant, Indiana—Bloomington aka CanisDirus

Not trying to rile you up friend, just posting the rules as written/published.

Remember, it's just a game.

Qadira

Pathfinder Roleplaying Game, Adventure Path, Companion, Comics Subscriber
Bloodlust wrote:

So what you're saying is that a CLERIC doesn't have to follow a "god" but a Paladin MUST?

"While the vast majority of clerics revere a specific deity, a small number dedicate themselves to a divine concept worthy of devotion—such as battle, death, justice, or knowledge—free of a deific abstraction."

While the base Pathfinder RPG rules allow for Paladins and Clerics without Dieties, I believe that Pathfinder Society Organized play rules do not. As you are posting in the Pathfinder Society Organized Play section of the messageboards we are assuming that you are asking in reference to Pathfinder Society Organized Play and therefore those rules must also be applied.

Qadira

You know what, never mind.

Again will someone please tell me how to delete this thread?

Silver Crusade *

I don't think that you can.

Cheliax *** Venture-Captain, Washington—Seattle aka Big Kyle

Hey there Bloodlust

Don't get discouraged by criticism. Consider it a compliment they will take the time to give input on your idea.

As for myself, rock on. It's cool to see an IC group you are forming, but I would recommend you post this in the in character forums with a more in character twist.

Qadira *** Venture-Captain, Texas—Dallas & Ft. Worth aka Thorkull

Bloodlust, as Kyle said, don't get discouraged. I think the idea is cool (my main character is a Qadiran cleric of Torag) and I love the spin of using control of trade to effect change for the better in the world as a motivator for LG Qadirans.

Unfortunately, changing class mechanics without an allowed archetype just isn't going to work in the campaign.

Qadira

Pathfinder Roleplaying Game, Adventure Path, Companion, Comics Subscriber

I'm not sure how I was being rude. I was trying to explain people's reaction to your posts.

Paizo / Messageboards / Paizo Publishing / Pathfinder® / Pathfinder Society® / Faction Talk / Qadira / The Silver Coin League All Messageboards

Want to post a reply? Sign in.

Recent threads in Qadira

Qadira Faction Goals Status Report



©2002–2013 Paizo Publishing, LLC®. Need help? Email customer.service@paizo.com or call 425-250-0800 during our business hours: Monday–Friday, 10 AM–5 PM Pacific Time. View our privacy policy. Paizo Publishing, LLC, Paizo, the Paizo golem logo, Pathfinder, the Pathfinder logo, Pathfinder Society, GameMastery, and Planet Stories are registered trademarks of Paizo Publishing, LLC, and Pathfinder Roleplaying Game, Pathfinder Campaign Setting, Pathfinder Adventure Path, Pathfinder Adventure Card Game, Pathfinder Player Companion, Pathfinder Modules, Pathfinder Tales, Pathfinder Battles, Pathfinder Online, PaizoCon, RPG Superstar, The Golem's Got It, Titanic Games, the Titanic logo, and the Planet Stories planet logo are trademarks of Paizo Publishing, LLC. Dungeons & Dragons, Dragon, Dungeon, and Polyhedron are registered trademarks of Wizards of the Coast, Inc., a subsidiary of Hasbro, Inc., and have been used by Paizo Publishing under license. Most product names are trademarks owned or used under license by the companies that publish those products; use of such names without mention of trademark status should not be construed as a challenge to such status.