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Hey all - I'm a programmer for d20pfsrd.com and we want to know what else you need.

What other helpful tools would you like to see?
What tools would make your job as a DM or player easier?

Initiative / combat tracking tools?
Character management tools?
Character repository features?
Mapping tools?
Campaign home page tools?
Others?

Tell us what you'd like to see or show support for the ideas you like best.

Thanks!


Those all sound great!
How about something along the lines of the Advanced Race Guide? Custom build races on the PC.
I know there are several character builder progs out there, but one based at d20pfsrd.com could cut out some of the performance problems of the others. As it stands I have to remove some programs and reload earlier versions so I can use the character builder progs.

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I like that idea. I would fully support that! :)


This might not be exactly what you are asking about, but I was just on d20pfsrd looking for Combat Maneuvers Summary Chart (I use the term "chart" loosely), a concise summary is what I am looking for like in a page or two. Also, a Combat Round Actions Summary. Anyway, not really something for programming proper, but it is a couple of really helpful tools I was looking for.


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Something that might be interesting is a spellbook generator. You could set some parameters to build a spellbook for different classes, since picking all the spells for an NPC's spellbook is fairly labour intensive. Maybe let the user choose a few spells that they want to be in the book for certain, and then let it fill out the rest. You could have an input for how many spells, what spell levels, etc, and also if you wanted to get really wild, you could use the Build your own spellbook rules to allow custom spellbooks for more flavour (and possibly treasure value for the more exotic/expensive materials).


While not exactly a "feature", I'm pretty sure you can make the sidebar contents not show up when searching. It makes it impossible to find say... Magus specific magic items, because "Magus" is on every single page.

Underlying Principles also doesn't appear in the search box.


Yeah, I'm with Caedwyr. That's the one bit of treasure that's hard to build. I agree wholeheartedly with the details; hard-pick the spells I want in it, click the class and level, and let it just generate a copy & paste string for me.


Cadwyr's has the right idea.

Sczarni

My biggest desire has always been to have an encounter table generator that I can print out and use for my campaigns.

Sortable by temperature, environment, CR, creature types, etc.

Like, for example, something that could list all CR 1-6 animals, magical beasts, and humanoids in a warm forest environment.

Or something that lists all undead between CR 6-10 for the PCs to fight in an arena battle.

Maybe make it filter the different Bestiaries, too.

If you could make that work, it would save me days of work every time my parties want to travel somewhere else in the world.


Great ideas, keep them coming! We really appreciate the input.


If/when any of these become completed, just hoping the app for pfsrd, will have it as well.

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Grizzly the Archer wrote:
If/when any of these become completed, just hoping the app for pfsrd, will have it as well.

If you mean an app, as in for iphones or androids, we don't really have anything to do with those.


hmmm, in that case, that could be the next step for you guys, making an app. :)


Doesn't even need to be an app. Look at the PRD - it's just set up to work on smartphones. I was talking to a fellow PFSer just Sunday about d20PFSRD being a PITA for little 4-inch touch-screens (vs. the ease of the PRD). Not a sermon...just a thought.


This will probably sound a little silly, but a range chart for various things...
i.e.: spells, thrown weapons, 'throw anything' items (str vs wt. vs dynamics of item or person), firearms, bows etc.
I know some of this is actually in the books, but I have yet to see a 'throw anything' chart I trust.

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xanthemann wrote:

This will probably sound a little silly, but a range chart for various things...

i.e.: spells, thrown weapons, 'throw anything' items (str vs wt. vs dynamics of item or person), firearms, bows etc.
I know some of this is actually in the books, but I have yet to see a 'throw anything' chart I trust.

Well, it's not an "app" but it may be helpful. I whipped this up this morning:

Ranged Attack Range Increments

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Better organization for traits. Moreso than is the case withs spells and feats, many DMs only allow traits from specific sources because traits are so campaign / adventure / race / faction / background specific. A way to organize traits by source-of-origin would save my players a lot of time when choosing them
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Like Abandoned Arts said.... But also expand it to all aspects of the site. Such as a Global way to hide content of sources your gaming group doesn't use.

There's nothing more frustrating than reading up on a great new Feat/Spell/Trait/ect... only to scroll to the bottom of the page and realize: "Damn, I cant use that source for our game"


Probably returning the goods and services page to the way it was before, when everything was on the same page. It was easy to find items by just ctrl+f searching the page, now it's an irritating chore trying to find stuff.

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Aratrok wrote:
Probably returning the goods and services page to the way it was before, when everything was on the same page. It was easy to find items by just ctrl+f searching the page, now it's an irritating chore trying to find stuff.

The problem with that Aratrok is simple: The sheer number of items we had on that page (and some other similar pages) gets to a point its virtually impossible to edit or maintain. The pages were so large they failed to save 75-80% of the time. You'd have to hit "Save" like 10x before you stopped getting "Server Error" messages. It's a problem with having pages that have literally thousands of items on them. They're just plain too big. So even beyond that fact, editing pages of that size is a massive challenge too. It's unfortunate but consider how many more items we're going to have very shortly what with Ultimate Equipment coming out. That page would freaking scroll for an hour if we just keep adding stuff to it.

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Dr Grecko wrote:

Like Abandoned Arts said.... But also expand it to all aspects of the site. Such as a Global way to hide content of sources your gaming group doesn't use.

There's nothing more frustrating than reading up on a great new Feat/Spell/Trait/ect... only to scroll to the bottom of the page and realize: "Damn, I cant use that source for our game"

We'd like this too but right now there just isn't an easy way to do it. If Google would add page tagging to Sites we'd probably be able to do something but as yet its a no-go unfortunately.


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Chainsaw, chisels, maybe a crescent wren.....oooooohhhhh. Wrong tools. My bad.


d20pfsrd.com wrote:
xanthemann wrote:

This will probably sound a little silly, but a range chart for various things...

i.e.: spells, thrown weapons, 'throw anything' items (str vs wt. vs dynamics of item or person), firearms, bows etc.
I know some of this is actually in the books, but I have yet to see a 'throw anything' chart I trust.

Well, it's not an "app" but it may be helpful. I whipped this up this morning:

Ranged Attack Range Increments

Thank you. I had seen one under a Pathfinder flag that boasted a range of 300' for a 10lb object that was both aerodynamic and balanced and if you had a Str of 18. I wasn't very sure about trusting it. Thank you for the chart!

Paizo Employee Director of Game Development

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I'm sure it'd be a bit of work, and might not be possible through Google Sites, but personally I'd love to see Chopswil's DBs in a format where it had a bunch of check boxes that would make it easier to narrow down a broad search with certain parameters. I know I can just export the DB and then do multiple sorts, but a quick site would be wonderful.

For example, let's say I'm looking for all Medium outsiders that have the fire subtype in only official Paizo products, or all CR 15 creatures of the dragon subtype for all content. It'd be cool to just click on the check boxes and have it sorted for your criteria.

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Adam Daigle wrote:

I'm sure it'd be a bit of work, and might not be possible through Google Sites, but personally I'd love to see Chopswil's DBs in a format where it had a bunch of check boxes that would make it easier to narrow down a broad search with certain parameters. I know I can just export the DB and then do multiple sorts, but a quick site would be wonderful.

For example, let's say I'm looking for all Medium outsiders that have the fire subtype in only official Paizo products, or all CR 15 creatures of the dragon subtype for all content. It'd be cool to just click on the check boxes and have it sorted for your criteria.

Dude I'm 100% with you on that, and I think you may have mentioned that at PaizoCon. Believe me that's one of my biggest wishes if I can just get one of the brainiacs who work with me on the site to figure out how to jam that into the Google Sites framework I will.

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xanthemann wrote:
Thank you. I had seen one under a Pathfinder flag that boasted a range of 300' for a 10lb object that was both aerodynamic and balanced and if you had a Str of 18. I wasn't very sure about trusting it. Thank you for the chart!

By the way, if you, or anyone else, can think of anything else either to add to that chart, or in terms of other charts of similar data, I'm more than happy to whip something up. I'z jez gotz ta knowz whut yuz wuntz.


A way to search feats by prereqs. For example, I type in 'dodge' or 'power attack' and it lists the 20 feats I qualify for. If I search for 'dex 17 two weapon fighting' I get a shorter, different list.

Paizo Employee Director of Game Development

d20pfsrd.com wrote:
Dude I'm 100% with you on that, and I think you may have mentioned that at PaizoCon. Believe me that's one of my biggest wishes if I can just get one of the brainiacs who work with me on the site to figure out how to jam that into the Google Sites framework I will.

I know it's totally doable on regular websites, but I don't know what restrictions there are for Google Sites... and to be clear, I'm not code-a-licious enough to know how to do any of it. But a nerd can dream!

Liberty's Edge

I would love a trait tree like the feat tree.

Also, the monster builder has never worked for me. It never loads the monster list. I have only tried with chrome and dolphin though.

Scarab Sages

I love the spell guard generator and would love to see something similar for weapons, equipment, items and attacks.


Adam Daigle wrote:

I'm sure it'd be a bit of work, and might not be possible through Google Sites, but personally I'd love to see Chopswil's DBs in a format where it had a bunch of check boxes that would make it easier to narrow down a broad search with certain parameters. I know I can just export the DB and then do multiple sorts, but a quick site would be wonderful.

For example, let's say I'm looking for all Medium outsiders that have the fire subtype in only official Paizo products, or all CR 15 creatures of the dragon subtype for all content. It'd be cool to just click on the check boxes and have it sorted for your criteria.

We started work in that direction with the Spell (and other)Filters, but the current limitations of Google Sites made it necessary to build the tool off-site and called via an IFrame. This provides us the ability to do many things you can do on a "regular site", but the implementation into d20pfsrd created some minor annoyances (due to browser security standards) where you couldn't link from d20pfsrd to content inside the iFrame. Some users also claimed the filters were too slow, possible due to the content coming from offsite--or that's at least some of the reasons I heard.

If enough people could live with the tradeoffs, the spell filters could be enhanced substantially.

Scarab Sages

Talwynor wrote:
I love the spell guard generator and would love to see something similar for weapons, equipment, items and attacks.

That's spell CARD generator. I like the use of cards for powers attacks and spells for my kids when they play.


Please change how traits are shown.

A list of all the traits is simply not helpful when i have to click each to see what it does.

I would love to see a layout like the spells by class, Name then a little info on what it does, want to whole write up? click the link.


d20pfsrd.com wrote:


By the way, if you, or anyone else, can think of anything else either to add to that chart, or in terms of other charts of similar data, I'm more than happy to whip something up. I'z jez gotz ta knowz whut yuz wuntz.

Is there information on obscure objects to be thrown? (Improvised weapons/throw anything) whoops. Just saw it.

The chart is awesome as far as known throwing weapons and stretched to include shields (Steve Rogers and some Orcs style of using a shield), and for that I am thankful. I can't seem to thank you guys enough for all the information and how involved you are with the community.


d20pfsrd.com wrote:
Aratrok wrote:
Probably returning the goods and services page to the way it was before, when everything was on the same page. It was easy to find items by just ctrl+f searching the page, now it's an irritating chore trying to find stuff.
The problem with that Aratrok is simple: The sheer number of items we had on that page (and some other similar pages) gets to a point its virtually impossible to edit or maintain. The pages were so large they failed to save 75-80% of the time. You'd have to hit "Save" like 10x before you stopped getting "Server Error" messages. It's a problem with having pages that have literally thousands of items on them. They're just plain too big. So even beyond that fact, editing pages of that size is a massive challenge too. It's unfortunate but consider how many more items we're going to have very shortly what with Ultimate Equipment coming out. That page would freaking scroll for an hour if we just keep adding stuff to it.

Ah, I had wondered why it was changed, but I fully understand that problem.

However is it possible to get the old table back, with alphabetically sorted goods and services, and when I click on one it throws me over to the more specific sub-page?
To avoid having to maintain two differnet tables, you could just use a script to grab the contents from all the sub-page tables and sort the alphabetically.

As for the traits, a list similar to the feats would really be nice, once you get into the different categories. But guess making that is alot of work.
However I guess alot of people also forget you can search the site and so. If you're looking for traits that give an initiative bonus, just type "initiative" in the search field and then select Traits. Of course that only helps if you have an idea about what you want already. Sometimes the cool traits are the ones you didn't even know exist.


Locations...Maps. Where is my character from? It's a little something I am trying to include on my custom character sheets, but I find it difficult to get a real lock on on the locations and the surroundings.
This may be asking too much, but it never hurts to ask (unless she slaps you). Possibly a map with zoom capabilities?

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We don't really deal with maps and such since the site is intended for GMs of any campaign world or setting. We include a lot of Golarion content just because its kind of mixed into the mechanics in most cases.

It's also important to point out that we're not associated with Paizo, we're just fans.

Sovereign Court

I would like to see a character manager. Something equivalent to the poor mans Hero Labs (no where as in depth of course), just something that I can input some info into and it tells me to hits and what not.


I think some form of efficient character generator would be nice. Something that allows you to pick your class, race, feats, and set up your ability scores with a complete point-buy calculator. This in combination with caedwyr spell book compilation idea could make character beyond first level much easier.

Edit-Also, adding in something to more easily keep track of magic items would be great as well.

Edit 2-Ninja'd by please don't kill me. :P


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I want to see a web app called 'magic item shop'

It takes some parameters from the DM (city size, etc) and generates the stock that a particular magic item shop has on hand. The DM gives the magic item shop a name that is used to store that particular shop's contents on a SQL backend on the server

Once generated, the website can be revisited, the name given , and the magic item shop automatically updates over time. New items appear, old ones are sold and disappear. A few items don't sell and are gradually discounted. The rarest/most expensive items always eventually sell, at auctions that the magic item shop periodically holds.

The DM can supply an exclusion list (things that will never appear in the shop).

I think this would be a cooler way to provide access to magic items than 'here is the magic item section in the equipment manual'

Ken


d20pfsrd.com wrote:

We don't really deal with maps and such since the site is intended for GMs of any campaign world or setting. We include a lot of Golarion content just because its kind of mixed into the mechanics in most cases.

It's also important to point out that we're not associated with Paizo, we're just fans.

That's cool. Never know until you ask, right?


Ciaran Barnes wrote:
A way to search feats by prereqs. For example, I type in 'dodge' or 'power attack' and it lists the 20 feats I qualify for. If I search for 'dex 17 two weapon fighting' I get a shorter, different list.

I'll second this. Something that allows you to enter some feats and gives you a list of available feats whose prerequisites you already meet. That would make it easy to identify that low hanging fruit when you have a spare feat or two.

Shadow Lodge

Pathfinder Lost Omens, Maps, Rulebook Subscriber

A list of feats you qualify for is good, but it doesn't help you find those feats that you can almost qualify for (the second feat on a feat chain, say, or where you miss an attribute or BAB prerequisite by 1). It would be nice if there was some way to simplify this kind of search.


wheelmanforhire wrote:

Hey all - I'm a programmer for d20pfsrd.com and we want to know what else you need.

a simple fallible carter sheet preferably the one from the back of the core rule book plz

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forgive my ignorance but what is a "simple fallible carter sheet"?


d20pfsrd.com wrote:
Dr Grecko wrote:

Like Abandoned Arts said.... But also expand it to all aspects of the site. Such as a Global way to hide content of sources your gaming group doesn't use.

There's nothing more frustrating than reading up on a great new Feat/Spell/Trait/ect... only to scroll to the bottom of the page and realize: "Damn, I cant use that source for our game"

We'd like this too but right now there just isn't an easy way to do it. If Google would add page tagging to Sites we'd probably be able to do something but as yet its a no-go unfortunately.

Well I didn't expect it to be easy... hehe.

If a source filter not a realistic possibility, then how about putting the source at the top of the page instead of the bottom. That would at least stop me from reading it before realizing I can't use it :)

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Dr Grecko wrote:
If a source filter not a realistic possibility, then how about putting the source at the top of the page instead of the bottom. That would at least stop me from reading it before realizing I can't use it :)

a) You can bet that as soon as page tagging becomes available we'll be implementing it.

b) Heh. You can KIND of tell the source usually by the "source stamp" graphic at top right of most pages. Usually it says Pathfinder RPG if its from the RPG line, or Accessory otherwise, or indicates its a conversion etc. Most 3rd Party stuff is completely segregated so that stuff should be fairly easy to know where its from.

Sovereign Court

I almost forgot, can you fix a search issue where it displays items on the side bar as relevant search results. Say I search Eidolon in Feats I get every feat on your site because the side bar has Rouge Eidolon's Lab on the side bar. So it would be nice if there is a way for you to block the side bar from appearing in searches.


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d20pfsrd.com wrote:
forgive my ignorance but what is a "simple fallible carter sheet"?

It's the Internet; you have to assume everything you read was typed by a drunken octopus with boxing gloves on its tentacles while it was being herded into a chipper-shredder by enthusiastic application of industrial-strength cattle-prods.

Simple. Fill-able. Character. Sheet.


kenmckinney wrote:

I want to see a web app called 'magic item shop'

It takes some parameters from the DM (city size, etc) and generates the stock that a particular magic item shop has on hand. The DM gives the magic item shop a name that is used to store that particular shop's contents on a SQL backend on the server

Once generated, the website can be revisited, the name given , and the magic item shop automatically updates over time. New items appear, old ones are sold and disappear. A few items don't sell and are gradually discounted. The rarest/most expensive items always eventually sell, at auctions that the magic item shop periodically holds.

The DM can supply an exclusion list (things that will never appear in the shop).

I think this would be a cooler way to provide access to magic items than 'here is the magic item section in the equipment manual'

Ken

This is very cool, and would be a very good tool, especially given the condition of the loot generation tables and guides.

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