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Short, green, pointy ears, sharp teeth, a speech impediment, and lives to be 900 years old.
This is Yoda and Yadal, two of the only 3 known beings of Yoda's race, or so you would think.
Save for the 900 year life span, there is another creature that fits this bill...Goblins.
The big difference between the two is goblins life expectancy is 10 years, but their death are not stated to be due to natural causes.
Our groups theory is, if a goblin were 'protected' from its own curiosity and wild actions, it could reach a level of maturity that it could control itself. The reason goblins can reach this age is because none have really ever lived long enough to die of old age, so their body doesn't know how to 'grow old' and it would take nearly a thousand years for it to figure out how to do so.
Any thoughts from other amateur biologists?


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........Dear god you may have something here.


So... You're saying Yoda hates horses?


Probably, or maybe he outgrew the hate. We know he likes Wookies.


Yoda's species is actually a single time lord.

There's actually been more than three members of the species as well. I think it's up to five across all eras of the setting now. SWTOR introduced one, maybe two more.


Yoda's species has 5 known representatives--Yoda, Yaddle, Vandar, Minch, and Oteg.

Only Yoda was seen existing in the Rebellion Era or beyond.

For unknown reasons, George Lucas has refused to say the name of Yoda's species (except to say jokingly "he's a frog"). He also denied that it's the Whills (from "Journal of the Whills").

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darth_borehd wrote:
For unknown reasons, George Lucas has refused to say the name of Yoda's species (except to say jokingly "he's a frog").

And Lucasfilm has prevented licensors from ever providing any information on the species.

Which may even be a good idea. Certainly there are a number of things that have been defined and codified over the years I'd have rather seen left vague.


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You have to admit those would be great goblin names.

I didn't remember that there were 5 reps of his species, but I did remember about Lucas not admitting or disclosing what their race is. I also remember he said he never would tell, so this is my current working theory...at least in a fantasy setting.

Yoda was a Goblin.


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Yoda's race is the totality of descendants of the crossbreeding of kermit the frog and miss piggy. Since he was created and voiced by Frank Oz, I believe this is most likely the truth.


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Yoda totally hates horses and dogs. Have you ever seen a horse or a dog in the galaxy far far away? No? That's because the goblins have won there and by eliminating their mortal enemies they have managed to reach full maturity.


I think gremlin fits more.


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Am I just cynical or is anyone else thinking that George Lucas won't release any information about that race because he was too lazy to make it up, and then thought that he could pass that off as being clever?

Anyway that's a very cool idea, if I ever GM, I might have to use something like that.


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wolfman1911 wrote:

Am I just cynical or is anyone else thinking that George Lucas won't release any information about that race because he was too lazy to make it up, and then thought that he could pass that off as being clever?

Anyway that's a very cool idea, if I ever GM, I might have to use something like that.

Nah I just figure someday down the road when he decides he needs a few more million he will authorize it in some book to sell mass copies.


wolfman1911 wrote:
Am I just cynical or is anyone else thinking that George Lucas won't release any information about that race because he was too lazy to make it up, and then thought that he could pass that off as being clever?

You are cynical....and so am I.


DOnt't Insulte Yoda! HE is Wise and good. Remember: There is no Death, there is the Force


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Owen K. C. Stephens wrote:


Which may even be a good idea. Certainly there are a number of things that have been defined and codified over the years I'd have rather seen left vague.

Are you talking about that Midichlorian disaster? That would better have been left undefined indeed.

Yoda as a 900-year-old goblin is a nice idea indeed. What class (in PF, not Star Wars d20) would he be? Some kind of monk?

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Owen K. C. Stephens wrote:
darth_borehd wrote:
For unknown reasons, George Lucas has refused to say the name of Yoda's species (except to say jokingly "he's a frog").

And Lucasfilm has prevented licensors from ever providing any information on the species.

Which may even be a good idea. Certainly there are a number of things that have been defined and codified over the years I'd have rather seen left vague.

Such as "the force".


I think that Magus or Inquisitor would fit the bill.


Zmar wrote:
I think that Magus or Inquisitor would fit the bill.

I was thinking a combat-oriented oracle.


I think a Goblin of 900 years of age would have satisfied his curiosity by exploring many different classes, possibly including psionics. There are many different paths for his beginning, but one encounter could have changed it's life. That or being imprisoned past it's curious stage in life.....Hmmm. Okay, say a goblin rogue was captured in a city that deemed them sentient enough to stand trial. Found guilty, the goblin is sentenced to 10 years in jail. Being eight or nine when first imprisoned, the goblin in question, it lives near double the life expectancy. Now twice as mature as any other goblin there is possibility for it to take things serious enough even if it isn't.

Just a thought for a plot.

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xanthemann wrote:
Probably, or maybe he outgrew the hate. We know he likes Wookies.

Of course he likes Wookies. Wookies are bugbears.

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Whatever Yoda is, he's not that bright. Anakin brought balance to the force all right. Just as the Jedi killed off all but a handful of Sith, he killed off all but a handful of the Jedi. Stupid little green muppet.


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Kthulhu wrote:
Whatever Yoda is, he's not that bright. Anakin brought balance to the force all right. Just as the Jedi killed off all but a handful of Sith, he killed off all but a handful of the Jedi. Stupid little green muppet.

I guess he would be big on wisdom, like 20+. The way the Force is presented, some sort of divine-oriented class is probably all right. Thus, they might not be that big on intelligence.

And the Jedi could well have a monk-like AC bonus based on wisdom. Lukes training session on board the Millenium Falcon comes to mind.


A Psionisist, perhaps?
Strange for a goblin...
The int being low compared to wis is a good point, though.


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xanthemann wrote:
A Psionisist, perhaps?

I thought about that as well, but psionics is about the inner strength more than about some external force. The presentation of force use seems more like psionics, but the explanation is something more divine. Although - it could be arcane as well: drawing on a mystic energy that permeates the whole universe and holds it together? Sounds like arcane energy. The inherent morality (light/darkness) sounds like a divine concept, however.


Owen K. C. Stephens wrote:
darth_borehd wrote:
For unknown reasons, George Lucas has refused to say the name of Yoda's species (except to say jokingly "he's a frog").

And Lucasfilm has prevented licensors from ever providing any information on the species.

Which may even be a good idea. Certainly there are a number of things that have been defined and codified over the years I'd have rather seen left vague.

Mitochlorians, why I never ....


Very interesting idea... just the encounter to pop into a one-off adventure.

I've had a Star Wars spoof adventure that I wrote up years ago for an April Fool's WFRP night but I could never come up with a good fantasy representation of Yoda, but I think I do now...


Yoda is not a Part of Pathinder, this discussion is even more fictional then roleplya actually is.

Yoda Rocks!


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Count Duck wrote:
Yoda is not a Part of Pathinder, this discussion is even more fictional then roleplya actually is.

Obviously. Still, it is fun - and make-believe is what this all is about anyway.


Yoda as an epic level Goblin...? He'd almost have to be epic after 900 years.

I like this.

I posit however that as a Pathfinderized character (especially a goblin) he would have to be born with a vastly superior intellect and wisdom score, or have been reincarnated into the body so as to deviate from unknown centuries of breeding and racial instincts.

Any takers on what his initial point buy would be?


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That's it, I'm putting a goblin monk-cleric NPC who wields a keen brilliant energy bastard sword into my campaign!

"Help you I can, mrrrm."


Goblin Monk Psion?


clff rice wrote:
Goblin Monk Psion?

Sense that does make. Oooohuuu huuu huuu.


He didn't have to have superior abilities upon birth at all. If he has enough spells or wish access, then he could have made the ability penalties for aging go away and get a lot of positive modifiers to his mental scores. See how fast a goblin ages and try to guess how many age categories has he passed... he must be ancient ten times over ;)


Aren't monks one of the classes that can become unaging?

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Didn't yoda ate paizo staff member's head off one time?

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I know what planet that Yoda is from.

Yoda is a Grentar, and he's from Grentarik. Just go look up SuperShadow and read what Lucas has planned to come out in the next 3 years. :)


Zmar wrote:
He didn't have to have superior abilities upon birth at all. If he has enough spells or wish access, then he could have made the ability penalties for aging go away and get a lot of positive modifiers to his mental scores. See how fast a goblin ages and try to guess how many age categories has he passed... he must be ancient ten times over ;)

I was talking about being born (more) intelligent than other goblins so that he knew staying with them and attempting to expand his knowledge and wisdom would be dangerous. Don't goblins kill other goblins who read and practice non-fire magic, or something along those lines? I was not specifically referring to having scores that allow for counteracting age...

A goblin with an 6-8 Int/Wis is what I'd consider average for a race of creatures that burns things willy-nilly and is afraid of written words. An Int of 10 would make him leadership material for sure, but to rise above his station and become enlightened and civilized, I say he'd have to be far superior in those respects.


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Don't forget the opening statement on my theory of goblins and aging... goblins life expectancy is 10 years, but their death are not stated to be due to natural causes.
Our groups theory is, if a goblin were 'protected' from its own curiosity and wild actions, it could reach a level of maturity that it could control itself. The reason goblins can reach this age is because none have really ever lived long enough to die of old age, so their body doesn't know how to 'grow old' and it would take nearly a thousand years for it to figure out how to do so.

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He's a mite.

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xanthemann wrote:
Probably, or maybe he outgrew the hate. We know he likes Wookies.
Of course he likes Wookies. Wookies are bugbears.

Does that mean the Ewoks are halflings in teddy bear suits?


Greatbear wrote:
Epic Meepo wrote:
xanthemann wrote:
Probably, or maybe he outgrew the hate. We know he likes Wookies.
Of course he likes Wookies. Wookies are bugbears.
Does that mean the Ewoks are halflings in teddy bear suits?

I figured something like dwarven bugbears or the like.


Charlie Bell wrote:
He's a mite.

LOL...that is an option!


I go to learn from the Y, O, D, A!

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Or maybe he is a gnome. Or, he is just a little green man. LMAO


My crew and I are still going with the goblin theory...lol


xanthemann wrote:

Short, green, pointy ears, sharp teeth, a speech impediment, and lives to be 900 years old.

This is Yoda and Yadal, two of the only 3 known beings of Yoda's race, or so you would think.
Save for the 900 year life span, there is another creature that fits this bill...Goblins.
The big difference between the two is goblins life expectancy is 10 years, but their death are not stated to be due to natural causes.
Our groups theory is, if a goblin were 'protected' from its own curiosity and wild actions, it could reach a level of maturity that it could control itself. The reason goblins can reach this age is because none have really ever lived long enough to die of old age, so their body doesn't know how to 'grow old' and it would take nearly a thousand years for it to figure out how to do so.
Any thoughts from other amateur biologists?

HOLY S$*%!!


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Not to spoil your fun, according to the Advanced Race Guide a goblin could live until 70+.


Well, there is a start! The goblin could become a mage and learn how to extend their life! Maybe a lich goblin?


A 70+ year old goblin lich! Now there is something different. Should I be scared or do I laugh?

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