Power Attack + Furious Focus + Iterative Attacks


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Okay, my ranger just turned 6th level and I finally got my first iterative attack.

If I understand the way Furious Focus works with Power Attack, I apply the Power Attack to ALL attacks I make that round if I declare I'm using it. Then, Furious Focus allows me to ignore the penalty for ONE of those attacks. Right?

Since my attack bonus (with BAB +6, Strength +3, magic weapon +1, Weapon Focus +1, etc.) is +11, I can apply the Furious Focus to one of those attacks to get either of the following:

+11/+4

or

+9/+6

Right? If so, which one seems better to you? Which is the smarter approach -- the accurate hit followed by the not-so accurate one, or two medium-accuracy attacks?


Furious Focus specifies that it works on the first attack you make, so you don't have the choice.


HawaiianWarrior wrote:

Okay, my ranger just turned 6th level and I finally got my first iterative attack.

If I understand the way Furious Focus works with Power Attack, I apply the Power Attack to ALL attacks I make that round if I declare I'm using it. Then, Furious Focus allows me to ignore the penalty for ONE of those attacks. Right?

Since my attack bonus (with BAB +6, Strength +3, magic weapon +1, Weapon Focus +1, etc.) is +11, I can apply the Furious Focus to one of those attacks to get either of the following:

+11/+4

or

+9/+6

Right? If so, which one seems better to you? Which is the smarter approach -- the accurate hit followed by the not-so accurate one, or two medium-accuracy attacks?

The second choice isn't possible, since it goes based off of your Highest Base Attack first. You aren't given a choice.

However, If I were you, I'd think about combining Furious Focus and Power Attack with Vital Strike feats. You only get the one attack, but you also combine the dice damage roll of your second attack, and is more effective for overcoming DR.

If you use any Homebrew/house rules, I would also ask about an "Improved Furious Focus", allowing attacks to be affected by its benefits equal to your Strength modifier (cannot be less than 1). It's something I'm thinking about proposing to the DM.

Grand Lodge

Pathfinder Adventure, Rulebook Subscriber

You ignore the penalty to your FIRST attack of the round. So the only legal application is your first example, +11/+4


Whoops, all right I guess that solves that. Thanks everyone!


Darksol the Painbringer wrote:
If you use any Homebrew/house rules, I would also ask about an "Improved Furious Focus", allowing attacks to be affected by its benefits equal to your Strength modifier (cannot be less than 1). It's something I'm thinking about proposing to the DM.

Yikes, that's basically just the same as applying it to every attack if you're Strength-based. At that point, you're essentially paying 3 feats (Power Attack, Furious Focus, and your proposed feat) to get full Power Attack benefits on every attack. Obviously if you only have one attack, you only take the first two feats. These three feats are already better by the time you get an iterative for a two-hander than taking three copies of a hypothetical Weapon Specialization that applies to all weapons and can be taken an unlimited number of times, and they eventually give the two-hander up to +18 to damage, at no attack penalty, for three feats, making it triple as good as Weapon Specialization per feat (the one-hander still gets +12, which is double as good).

Seems a bit much, I think.


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Rogue Eidolon wrote:
Darksol the Painbringer wrote:
If you use any Homebrew/house rules, I would also ask about an "Improved Furious Focus", allowing attacks to be affected by its benefits equal to your Strength modifier (cannot be less than 1). It's something I'm thinking about proposing to the DM.

Yikes, that's basically just the same as applying it to every attack if you're Strength-based. At that point, you're essentially paying 3 feats (Power Attack, Furious Focus, and your proposed feat) to get full Power Attack benefits on every attack. Obviously if you only have one attack, you only take the first two feats. These three feats are already better by the time you get an iterative for a two-hander than taking three copies of a hypothetical Weapon Specialization that applies to all weapons and can be taken an unlimited number of times, and they eventually give the two-hander up to +18 to damage, at no attack penalty, for three feats, making it triple as good as Weapon Specialization per feat (the one-hander still gets +12, which is double as good).

Seems a bit much, I think.

Using all 5 attacks for it? Yeah, it does. I never really thought about it that way. Then again, I also look at it as a means to counteract DR for characters who don't want to take the multiple feats for Vital Strike and its upgrades (which is essentially great for bypassing set amounts of DR). I mean, you're pretty much taking the Vital Strike feats for each attack, which gets harder to hit after each swing from your highest base, meaning it's still weaker than it in the long run if you're fighting high AC creatures.

I suppose an added clause would be to have the strength modifier limitation only work for Attacks of Opportunity, since that's about all I really need it for. It would balance out its overall usage, and it would be great to help counteract the whole overpowered side of it if I really did use it the way I said it originally.

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