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Restock of Faction Shirts?


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Qadira

When will the faction shirts be restocked? I'm new to Pathfinder and want to purchase a Qadira shirt (and take advantage of the reroll) but I am probably an XL/2XL and they just aren't available. I'm tempted to buy a "Small" and just pin it to another shirt but I'd rather have a product I can actually wear around and therefore promote PFS.

Grand Lodge ***

Pathfinder Adventure Path, Companion Subscriber

I don't believe they are planning to restcok them. I, too, would like several of them in sizes they no longer carry.

Qadira

Why would you not restock an item that people want (obviously the popular sizes only until the others run out) and that you have attached an "in-game" benefit to?

Having "once-off" deals like this smacks of cronyism. "You have an item that you will gain benefit from for the forseeable future and only because you joined (and therefore had the option) before me. I will NEVER be able to have that benefit. I don't think that's fair.

Have money - willing to spend it - willing to use a receipt as proof until new stock comes in - want benefit. Why is this not possible?

*****

There was a thread awhile back (my search-fu is failing on finding it) that gave a detailed reason.

As for the shirts -- the majority of the other shirts that Paizo sells are also open for a free reroll, it's not just the faction shirts anymore.

Grand Lodge ***

Pathfinder Adventure Path, Companion Subscriber

Basically it came down to they just didn't sell that well, They were open to the idea of possibly doing them again sometime (more likely for the newer factions) but for that to be considered they needed to depelete the current inventory.

They do allow pretty much every shirt they sell to be used for a reroll, but I'm less interested in that than I am in the coolness of the faction shirts. I actually refuse to use my rerolls though I do make jokes about using them against the PCs when I run a mod in my VC shirt. Would have been nice to save asn Ettin this weekend from a Baleful Polymorph.

Qadira

Some faction missions require you to "make X roll". You can RP your ass off but if you fail that ONE roll - you fail utterly. At least investing in a shirt gives you a chance to reroll.

Also good for those times your DM tells you, "You REALLY want to make this roll or your character is toast".

Cheliax *

I think they now allow any paizo shirt to offer a reroll. Not 100% sure on that so look deeper into it before spending your money.

I suspect that they have been disappointed with the time required to see profits on the items. I also suspect that they way overestimated the orders on the small/. Medium sizes which is likly the reason they still have them in stock. Look at the fact that so many players are over weight and it is easy to see why those sizes are out of stock in several factions.

Also ask yourself if you really think all of the faction shirts look nice. $20 for a reroll, sure but not for some of those designs, especially after you already have one and that is all you need for most of the games you play.

For the most part I have had good experience with judges about me rather placing my faction shirt over my shoulder or on the table in front of me. I do not want to have to wash my black Cheliax shirt to grey with some of the design chipping off sooner than later by washing it every week. I also don't want to have to go through the hassle of washing it every week.

I know a big part of the shirt is to promote PF at conventions but how many of us really want to throw down $60+ for a shirt _EACH_ day of the convention? That is another reason why I prefer to throw it over my shoulder or on the table. No body wants us wearing the same shirt each day getting smelly over the con.

Why not buy 4 shirts and wash them every month? Because the shirt i really like is now sold out in my size and I really do not want to keep spending $20 a pop in my current financial status. I would love to get my hands on a Shadow Lodge shirt but the 5 newest factions do not have their own shirts.

Last complaint, I don't mind taking my heavy vest off at the table but while I am walking around all day, I like a polo shirt with a collar so that I can rest my vest on 2 thick layers of fabric, not one thin t-shirt layer. I saw many judges wearing generic pathfinder shirts at gencon. Would I buy one? Maybe to support paizo when I had more "shirt money." that is to say when it does not stand in the way of the books, con/hotel prices. But even than, once I put on the vest, the logo would be covered so how much of a point is that? With luck, they will put big symbols on the sleeves so I could help them with the advertisement.

Silver Crusade **

From past discussions, if I remember correctly, they claim that they made a single print run of shirts, and that's it. Now that they're down to just toddler and godzilla sizes available, they wonder why they're not selling, so they refuse to make more in sizes that normal people might want.

I agree that it seems pretty crappy to have shirt re-rolls in the game and not have the shirts available, except for the specific people who joined PFS during the right couple of months that they were available.

Andoran ***** Venture-Lieutenant, Minnesota—Anoka

Fromper wrote:

From past discussions, if I remember correctly, they claim that they made a single print run of shirts, and that's it. Now that they're down to just toddler and godzilla sizes available, they wonder why they're not selling, so they refuse to make more in sizes that normal people might want.

I agree that it seems pretty crappy to have shirt re-rolls in the game and not have the shirts available, except for the specific people who joined PFS during the right couple of months that they were available.

To be fair, Taldor does have some normal sizes available. And you don't need to wear the faction of your character at the table to get the reroll.

But in general, I agree that it would be nice for some more normal sizes to be made available across the boards.

Osirion ***

All Paizo shirts count towards re-rolls. I got the awesome goblin w/ a d20 shirt & love it.

Qadira ***** RPG Superstar 2010 Top 16

Just to be pedantic:

Warduke shirt -- no
Kill Doctor Lucky Monkey Hand shirt -- no
Paizo golem shirt -- yes
Pathfinder goblin with d20 shirt -- yes
Andoran faction shirt -- yes
Cheliax faction shirt -- yes
Osirion faction shirt -- yes
Qadiran faction shirt -- yes
the coolest faction logo shirt -- yes
Gray maidens shirt -- yes
Ruby Phoenix tournament shirt -- yes
Stonehenge shirt -- no

Also, the red Venture-Captain shirts are valid for a re-roll.

Osirion

There was a *WARDUKE* shirt?!
Man, I don't care if there's a reroll for it, I *want* one!

Silver Crusade **

W. Kristoph Nolen wrote:

There was a *WARDUKE* shirt?!

Man, I don't care if there's a reroll for it, I *want* one!

Something tells me you and me are thinking of the same Warduke, but I don't know if that's the one on the shirt. I find it hard to believe that an old TSR D&D character would be on a Paizo shirt, given how WOTC is about trademarked material.

Now you've got me wondering if I still have my Warduke action figure around here somewhere.

Edit: I found it, and it is THE Warduke: http://paizo.com/products/btpy73ag?Dungeon-Warduke-TShirt

Grand Lodge ***

Pathfinder Adventure Path, Companion Subscriber

Well, you aren't expected to get every faction point.

I just personally have an issue with rerolls in game design. That comes more from a GM standpoint than a Player standpoint. I won't ever hold it against anyone who takes it. I just don't.

***** Venture-Lieutenant, Illinois—Carbondale aka Disturbed1

Chris Mortika wrote:

the coolest faction logo shirt -- yes

You already listed Andoran. ;)

*

Pathfinder Adventure Path Subscriber
Fromper wrote:
W. Kristoph Nolen wrote:

There was a *WARDUKE* shirt?!

Man, I don't care if there's a reroll for it, I *want* one!

Something tells me you and me are thinking of the same Warduke, but I don't know if that's the one on the shirt. I find it hard to believe that an old TSR D&D character would be on a Paizo shirt, given how WOTC is about trademarked material.

Now you've got me wondering if I still have my Warduke action figure around here somewhere.

Edit: I found it, and it is THE Warduke: http://paizo.com/products/btpy73ag?Dungeon-Warduke-TShirt

My guess is that Paizo had the shirts printed back when they were still publishing Dungeon (and Dragon) magazine -- ISTR that they printed a set of 3.5 stats for Warduke in the last year or two of publishing Dungeon.

**

I wonder if a (licensed) third party would be allowed to take over faction shirts for official re-rolls?
EDIT: I planned to pick one up at PaizoCon and they dinnae have any (or I dinnae see them anyway :)

*

Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Subscriber

My idea that got shot down.

I made a shirt from a CUP image of Silver Crusade that I made for my personal use that I bring to PFS events that looks like this:

Example

But still carry the Goblin d20 shirt around for the actual reroll.

*

The faction tshirts run really small. I wear a large and I'm not overweight.

Anyway, in this day and age of making fast and cheap tshirts, I'm surprised they didn't do another run, especially of Andoran and Cheliax which sold out. Especially with the influx of new players to PFS in the last year.

Based on players' selection of factions combined with past tshirt sales (and sizes), Paizo should be able to create a model that would be profitable for everyone.

Cheliax *

I'm curious, would something like a Kickstarter where the basic pledge is the cost of a shirt, with the funding threshold being the minimum needed to place the order, be worthwhile? Obviously, it would have to be done on a design by design basis to work, but if the worry is about not ending up with overstock...

Grand Lodge ****

Pathfinder Adventure Path, Maps, Roleplaying Game Subscriber

I thought about buying the Goblin holding the D20 for my wife.. but she knew it would have been for me then and I would have been in trouble telling her it was for her :)

Grand Lodge **

Pathfinder Adventure Path Charter Subscriber; Pathfinder Campaign Setting, Companion, Modules Subscriber

I'm hoping there will be a 'Year of the Risen Rune' shirt coming out soon, complete with Sihedron logo.

Qadira **

Pathfinder Adventure Path, Campaign Setting, Companion, Modules Subscriber
Paz wrote:
I'm hoping there will be a 'Year of the Risen Rune' shirt coming out soon, complete with Sihedron logo.

Yes, me, too.

I would really like a Silver Crusade shirt, too, though.

**

harmor wrote:

My idea that got shot down.

I remember the thread. I never saw a response, is that what you mean shot down? Or did you submit a business proposal to Paizo that was declined?

Cheliax

Bloodlust wrote:
When will the faction shirts be restocked? I'm new to Pathfinder and want to purchase a Cheliax shirt (and take advantage of the reroll) but I am probably an XL/2XL and they just aren't available.

Fixed that for you, because you don't really want a Qadira shirt. Honestly, why would you? Cheliax rules supreme! ;)

Qadira *** Venture-Lieutenant, Australia—Sydney

Asgetrion wrote:
Bloodlust wrote:
When will the faction shirts be restocked? I'm new to Pathfinder and want to purchase a Cheliax shirt (and take advantage of the reroll) but I am probably an XL/2XL and they just aren't available.
Fixed that for you, because you don't really want a Qadira shirt. Honestly, why would you? Cheliax rules supreme! ;)

No, no... I am fairly certain that he did intend to say Qadira.

We tempted him with the potential wealth to be had with some of our latest trade negotiations.

Andoran **** Venture-Captain, Missouri—Cape Girardeau aka Arnim Thayer

Chris Mortika wrote:

Just to be pedantic:

Warduke shirt -- no
Kill Doctor Lucky Monkey Hand shirt -- no
Paizo golem shirt -- yes
Pathfinder goblin with d20 shirt -- yes
Andoran faction shirt -- yes
Cheliax faction shirt -- yes
Osirion faction shirt -- yes
Qadiran faction shirt -- yes
the coolest faction logo shirt -- yes
Gray maidens shirt -- yes
Ruby Phoenix tournament shirt -- yes
Stonehenge shirt -- no

Also, the red Venture-Captain shirts are valid for a re-roll.

Also, add to this the green Venture-Lieutenant shirts, forthcoming at GenCon.

Qadira ***** RPG Superstar 2010 Top 16

I thought those were a secret, Michael.

Andoran ****

Pathfinder Battles Case Subscriber; Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Subscriber

Now I want to be a Venture Lieutenant.

Shadow Lodge ***** Venture-Captain, Michigan—Alma

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Chris Mortika wrote:
I thought those were a secret, Michael.

Well, since Andrew wore his to Paizo Con, I don't think they're that big of a secret...

**** Venture-Captain, New Jersey aka Shivok

Paz wrote:
I'm hoping there will be a 'Year of the Risen Rune' shirt coming out soon, complete with Sihedron logo.

You mean like this one?

I made this as a fan t-shirt but I've been told an official one is in the works.

Grand Lodge **** Venture-Lieutenant, California—Central San Joaquin Valley aka verdigris

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Shivok, I love that font. What is it, if you care to share?

Qadira **

Pathfinder Adventure Path, Campaign Setting, Companion, Modules Subscriber
Shivok wrote:
Paz wrote:
I'm hoping there will be a 'Year of the Risen Rune' shirt coming out soon, complete with Sihedron logo.

You mean like this one?

I made this as a fan t-shirt but I've been told an official one is in the works.

Now that's a really nice shirt.

**** Venture-Captain, New Jersey aka Shivok

verdigris wrote:
Shivok, I love that font. What is it, if you care to share?

I'm sending it to your email.

Grand Lodge **** Venture-Lieutenant, California—Central San Joaquin Valley aka verdigris

Yay! thank you!

Andoran **** Venture-Captain, Missouri—Cape Girardeau aka Arnim Thayer

Chris Mortika wrote:
I thought those were a secret, Michael.

I'm sure the shirt has been seen by now, thanks to Paizo Con!

To be clear, I'm sure there is a possibility that other shirts from Paizo might be added to the list in the future... we have seen expansion of this list with every new PFS guide released.

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