Juju Oracles with their non-evil Undead.
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Monks with their overpowered Flurry of Blows. I mean, that's how many attacks per round?
Normally, Undead (except Ghosts) are always evil, and the process of creating them is evil as well. But not so for the Oracle with the Juju Mystery and the Spirit Vessels Revelation:
Spirit Vessels (Su): You can channel wendo spirits into lifeless bodies, reanimating them to aid you. Necromancy spells that create undead lose the evil descriptor when you cast them. Mindless undead created by your magic are of neutral alignment, while thinking undead possess your alignment.
However, this was a mistake.
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Monks with their overpowered Flurry of Blows. I mean, that's how many attacks per round?
7 at level 20... I'm honestly thinking of having a cooldown for this ability, because no one can seriously flurry every round, but if it was once per 1d6 rounds, then it would adequately represent the monk catching his breath and refocusing so he can flurry again.
I'm seeing a lot of hatred about the flurry, but compared to what non-flurrying monks can do with the TWF feat tree (like the Tetori), these complains are rather awkward, because a TWF non-flurrying monk is just as dangerous as a flurrying one.
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Is this thread a joke?
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Normally, Undead (except Ghosts) are always evil, and the process of creating them is evil as well. But not so for the Oracle with the Juju Mystery and the Spirit Vessels Revelation:Spirit Vessels (Su): You can channel wendo spirits into lifeless bodies, reanimating them to aid you. Necromancy spells that create undead lose the evil descriptor when you cast them. Mindless undead created by your magic are of neutral alignment, while thinking undead possess your alignment.However, this was a mistake.
Ahhhh....I see.
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why oh why do people feel the need to bend the rules or cheat. What's the point, I don't care if it's legal or not it's still cheating and darn right annoying and rude for everybody else at the table.
It ruins the game for everyboddy else, if you don't like the game do something else.
It should be all about having fun with a group of friends not anatagonising other players and GM's!
Get a grip.
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why oh why do people feel the need to bend the rules or cheat. What's the point, I don't care if it's legal or not it's still cheating and darn right annoying and rude for everybody else at the table.
It ruins the game for everyboddy else, if you don't like the game do something else.
It should be all about having fun with a group of friends not anatagonising other players and GM's!
Get a grip.
Rant over
Oh I agree with you 100%
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flurry of blows isn't a game breaking mechanic or a rule that is being bent! I disagree
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Threads like these are quite useful to the novice GM, to easier recognise and nip in the bud any gamer shenanigans.
Rule 0 is too easy to exploit. So many unintended work-arounds.
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Light Sensitivity can easily be overcome with sunglasses.
And Drow Elves with Ray-Bans are even cooler!
Threads like these are quite useful to the novice GM, to easier recognise and nip in the bud any gamer shenanigans.
Right on. Let's pretend that was the intent of the OP (but I don't know or care if it actually was).
my munchkins guide to power gaming has a few ideas.
Bribe your GM with pizza.
Threaten your GM.
Sleep with your GM.
Make up dice rolls by snatching the dice before they stop rolling.
Spill coffee over your character sheet and "read" better numbers. (works also very well with dog)
or what other rule-bending do you mean?
(works also very well with dog)
What do you mean, your dog has eaten your character sheet?
he could have chewed them a little but, till only *you* can read your own charactersheet.
Rather too straightforward to be a bend, but... lantern archons. Summoning swarms of them against anything big and scary with gobs of natural armor to whittle 'em away can make GMs cry.
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Toe claws.
7th level druids wildshaping into Mega Raptors with Strong Jaw and Deinonychus companions while convincing everybody that syntesists are overpowered.
Both legal by RAW, both cheesy.
Major image, it has sound (pick the same as shout), smell (pick the exact same smell as stinking cloud), thermal (same as fireball, or lava).
Too bad there is nothing that does damage just by looking at it (I guess picturing a medusa is pushing it).
Is this the kind of "legal" you are looking for? Like legally buying weed for your glaucoma.
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my munchkins guide to power gaming has a few ideas.
Bribe your GM with pizza.
Threaten your GM.
Sleep with your GM.Make up dice rolls by snatching the dice before they stop rolling.
Spill coffee over your character sheet and "read" better numbers. (works also very well with dog)or what other rule-bending do you mean?
Don't spill coffee on your dog!!! That's just mean and won't make your dog better, just wetter. ;-)
Don't spill coffee on your cat either!!! It is also mean and won't make your cat better, just very wet.
If you do however, use your character sheet to wipe off your cat, this should make you character sheet perfectly unreadable.;-D
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There are tones of bits here and there that would fall into this category. Here are some that I have been reading up on.
The unkillable Familiar uses a certain familiar with shield other on the entire group, thrus granting the whole party a 50% reduction in damage. Jury still seems to be out on that one.
Magical lineage + walang spell hunter seems to have quite a few tricks you could do. Merciful fireball comes to mind ;] all your first level spells= merciful fireball, all your second level spells = merciful fireball, all your third level spells, ect...
Horizon Walker is full of neat tricks to exploit. same if you go for the Terrain Dominance tricks they talk about there.
Rage cycling in general has the potential to be retarded powerful. You can achieve this with, oracle lame curse, Martial Artist or Horizon Walker dips. some of the things you can do are; Spell sundering every round, Auspicious Mark rerolls, Clear mind, powerful blow, Ground Breaker, smasher, mighty swing, ect.
Alchemists in general have quite a few tibits you can exploit. Off the top of my head are Touch injection with detonate, touch your opponent and have him explode for 5d6 damage with no save and have him hurt everyone around him for 10d6 damage. Alchemical Allocation allows you to essentially cast any spell of any level multiple times by using up a second level spell slot. Think cure critical wounds at level 10 used 7 times a day with a int of 16. A internal alchemist only needs to breathe twice a day with a measly con score of 12, so is essentially immune to inhaled effects, and can survive underwater/vacuum. mix this with the fact that with 2 feats at level 10, she becomes immune to poison, disease, cold, non-lethal, sleep, and paralyzation. Most classes have effects that when combined unexpectedly, create strange effects. A monk using Dimension door and bull rush can allow you to teleport behind that wizard and bull rush him into the middle of your party. you just gotta look for things that might work together. Goblins firing Inferno Rockets with a radius of 40 feet anyone?
there chew on those while I try and find more :D For me just finding the different ways to exploit the rules is a game in of it self. I do not usually try to implement them, just find them.
Edit: I like that dinosaur druid idea you had there Artanthos. Im gonna have to look into that ;]
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The only think I can think of is the Peasant Railgun.
-Line up a bunch of NPC's.
-Give the one on the end a +5 shortbow with all the enchants you can.
-Peasant 1 fires it, then drops it. Peasant 2 picks it up (move action), fires it (standard), then drops it (free action).
-Repeat all the way down the line, for however many peasants you have.
Result: More attacks with your enchanted bow per round than you've ever seen in your life.
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All those outsiders with the greater teleport ability can't use it to escape from create pit, since the inside of the pit isn't part of the material plane and greater teleport forbids travel between planes.
Toe claws.
7th level druids wildshaping into Mega Raptors with Strong Jaw and Deinonychus companions while convincing everybody that syntesists are overpowered.
Both legal by RAW, both cheesy.
This is not rule bending at all.
The trick where you cast a metamagic spell out of 0 level slot is rule bending, IMHO.
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Don't spill coffee on your cat either!!! It is also mean and won't make your cat better, just very wet.
If you do however, use your character sheet to wipe off your cat, this should make you character sheet perfectly unreadable.;-D
Don't spill coffee anywhere. It's the beverage of the gods.
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The railgun depends on the inclusion of a little real-world physics. If 5,000 peasants move a 10-foot pole 10,000 feet in 6 seconds (1 round) it must be moving at an average speed of about Mach 7.5
Familiars can be the target of any spell with a target of “you”. Because of this, Alter Self turns them into Humanoids.
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Travel by animal:
If your ride skill is sufficient, you may mount an adjacent animal as a free action. You may also dismount as a free action.
This means you can traverse any distance so long as there is a string of animals separated by no more than five feet.
Trying to claim that you can't be counter spelled because your casting a stilled silenced spell with eschew materials.
clearly its based on if X makes a player able to do something that the GM doesn't like.
The way I read it there are some feats that allow one to deflect a ranged attack, be it arrow, bolt, javelin or even ranged touch spell attacks. I see no mention of having to roll to perform this act, it just states you do it if you decide to.
Is this something like you are looking for?