Bertious |
Well if you can get traits then two world magic can net you the
Unwitting ally spell.
As a third level spell Twilight Knife gives several rounds of flanking.
Or as a 4th level spell you can use Overwhelming Grief But by then you can start getting the Dimensional Agility Feats which are better than most spells.
Of course you can also just use summons to get flanking buddies.
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I'm not quite sure how Grease flat-foots people. I see the line at the end that says creatures that do not move are not considered flat-footed, but not any part of the spell that causes it. All I see it doing is making people prone. What am I missing?
If you are just looking for sneak attacks, summons always help provide flanks.
I couldn't find anything in the SRD that directly causes the flat-footed condition, besides: http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic/all-spells/r/recoil-fire
sgtrocknroll |
I'm not quite sure how Grease flat-foots people. I see the line at the end that says creatures that do not move are not considered flat-footed, but not any part of the spell that causes it. All I see it doing is making people prone. What am I missing?
Grease is awesome. Was demoing d20Pro at Origins and we were using Grease constantly to flatfoot people for the rogue archer (me). Works great against non rogues.
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Oh, I don't disagree that grease is a great spell. It really is, and it has disarm and anti-grapple applications as well, in addition to the traditional make-'em-fall battlefield control.
I just don't see where it makes enemies flat-footed. If anything, the prone enemies should've been harder for your rogue archer to hit.
Remco Sommeling |
Is there by Raw anything against using blur as HIPS ? I am not allowing it in my games regardless but was just wondering, same thing with displacement the fact that creatures must see you for the spell to work seems counter productive..
Grease has been nerfed a bit in PF even though it is still good it isn't quite that lethal anymore.
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Vision of Hell (Sorc 3) is a good one when combined with the Shatter Defenses feat. You lay out a nice 50 ft. radius emanation and everything in it is considered flat-footed (in addition to the shaken condition caused by the spell). Of course, that's a two feat investment and it gets a little sad when a party member fails their save.....