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So, the Forgemaster has the following quality:
A forgemaster gains only one domain, which must be the Artifice domain (not including subdomains). If she worships a deity, it must grant the Artifice domain.
The theologian has this:
Focused Domain
A theologian chooses only one domain from her deity’s portfolio rather than the normal two domains. All level-dependent effects of the granted powers from the theologian’s domain function as if she were two cleric levels higher than her actual cleric level. This does not allow her to gain domain-granted powers earlier than normal. A theologian can prepare domain spells using her non-domain slots. She cannot use her spontaneous casting ability on domain spells, even if they are prepared in non-domain slots.
In all other respects, this works like and replaces the standard cleric domain ability.
So can I take both of these archetypes?
I say no, b/c forgemaster says " if you worship a deity, it must be that one domain. the other archetype says choose 1 of the 2 domains you normally get, while forgemaster says you only get one.
In other words, one limits you to one, and only that one, the other, is still one, but you get to choose. the two o not overlap or stack, its one or the other it seems.
I'd allow it.
No - it's against RAW and RAI. You're spending the same dollar (your 2. domain) twice.
No - it's against RAW and RAI. You're spending the same dollar (your 2. domain) twice.
That.
If one ability was saying that one of your two domains must be X domain and the other said that you get only one domain instead of two then i might allow those archetypes to stack but when both say you get only domain, i say no.
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I would actually allow it. The Forgemaster gains only one domain, which must be Artifice. The Theologian says you can choose only one domain. What's stopping someone from just choosing Artifice? I realize it may be against both RAW and RAI, but that's the way I interpret it. Now, if only I got harder questions like this from my group, instead of their normal hack-and-slash PCs...
Yeah, I figured it was a stretch, and certainly against RAI. The reason I thought it might not be against RAW is because forgemaster doesn't replace the domain power, only theologian does.
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Just to quote the official ruling here, from the PRD;
A character can take more than one archetype and garner additional alternate class features, but none of the alternate class features can replace or alter the same class feature from the core class as another alternate class feature. Emphasis mine. It specifically prohibits Archetypes that replace or alter the same feature.
It doesn't look like there's much that does stack with Forgemaster.
Neat idea though.
Ah, ok. I thought it was just that two archetypes couldn't replace the same class feature. That makes sense (and fits with what is RAI most likely anyway).
Thanks guys!