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The Additional Resources thread is not the place to argue the point. Please keep posts focused on errors or updates to the AR page.

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Come on, Dirty Fighting...my high level Kineticist (that has yet to be swapped over from playtest) needs it to be a walking 3 stooges sketch!

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The last two posts are a little weird. ^_^

I'm looking forward to the new changeling options from Inner Sea Races, as well as - hopefully - the illustrious urbanite alternate racial trait from Heroes of the Streets. The traits from that book would be nice too.


That would require the update to actually go live... I hope it'll include Heroes of the Streets. Some awesome archetypes in that book.

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I'm hoping the Scorpion Whip is updated to the UE faqued version. My bards would appreciate it.


I'm new to PFS, so forgive me if this type of question has been asked before. Do older sources often get added to Additional Resources during these updates? For example, Kobolds of Golarion (not for Kobolds, but for feats useful for legal, small characters).

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Gleaming Terrier wrote:
I'm new to PFS, so forgive me if this type of question has been asked before. Do older sources often get added to Additional Resources during these updates? For example, Kobolds of Golarion (not for Kobolds, but for feats useful for legal, small characters).

Generally no, unless errata or FAQs are released that change something to make it fall within the PFS vision. The racial books can be assumed to be locked hard to only the PFS legal races, do not expect to see Kobolds of Golarion opened up.

Grand Lodge 5/5

Unless a Kobold boon appears, then expect it to become legal for Kobolds only.

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I know the answer is probably not good because of it consuming your money, but what are the odds of the coin shot spell being legal from Heroes of the Streets

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technarken wrote:
Come on, Dirty Fighting...my high level Kineticist (that has yet to be swapped over from playtest) needs it to be a walking 3 stooges sketch!

All of this. Dirty Fighting is fantastic. Then again, I'd say that for anything that lets me replace combat expertise on maneuver builds that will never use it.

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I'm sure I speak for many GenCon GMs who are eager for the Skinwalker elements from past books to be opened up now that there are Skinwalker boons available in PFS for play...

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Andrew Klein wrote:
I know the answer is probably not good because of it consuming your money, but what are the odds of the coin shot spell being legal from Heroes of the Streets

Just looked at that spell and have plans for it in a future build, I do not see it being a big issue as it really is no different than using bullets that cost money.

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Tindalen wrote:
Andrew Klein wrote:
I know the answer is probably not good because of it consuming your money, but what are the odds of the coin shot spell being legal from Heroes of the Streets

Just looked at that spell and have plans for it in a future build, I do not see it being a big issue as it really is no different than using bullets that cost money.

Likewise I don't see an issue with the spell, this and Races of the Inner Sea are going to determine the direction of my new archaeologist.

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Ok, two months since the last update, the update is historically on the last Wednesday of the month, I have been refreshing all day long. I have a new character that is dependent on a feat in dirty tactics toolbox that I was going to play this weekend, are we getting an update this month? Please?

Anyone?

*crickets*

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unfortunately with no coordinator till recently and the finding and choosing one, I guess there wasn't time to do any updating.

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Chess Pwn wrote:
unfortunately with no coordinator till recently and the finding and choosing one, I guess there wasn't time to do any updating.

Check the previous page, John has submitted an update, we're just wailting for it to go through.

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There is some really interesting content in Inner Sea Races that I'm curious about. I hope it makes the legal list.

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Kezzie Redlioness wrote:
There is some really interesting content in Inner Sea Races that I'm curious about. I hope it makes the legal list.

Seriously, I hope that content got included in the AR content review process. Some of the stuff in ISR just screams concepts at me.

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The whole book is pretty good.

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John Compton wrote:
We finished the final touches on the update a few days ago, so I anticipate it will show up on the website sometime next week.

12 days later, no update. :-(

Seriously, getting disheartened here.

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Something to keep in mind is that the PFS leadership had a pretty big change recently, so updates and other things have slowed down because of that and other factors. There are also a lot of products and material to go through, too.

Just my opinion, but I'd much rather everything be done right in this case than something slipping through and down the road players getting angry when their characters are made illegal or ruined to some degree.

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DM Beckett wrote:

Something to keep in mind is that the PFS leadership had a pretty big change recently, so updates and other things have slowed down because of that and other factors. There are also a lot of products and material to go through, too.

Just my opinion, but I'd much rather everything be done right in this case than something slipping through and down the road players getting angry when their characters are made illegal or ruined to some degree.

I get that, I was aware of that, but the sound of the update was that it was just going to have to go through the web team to get updated, not that there was still more work to do.

Grand Lodge 4/5

Paizo is a business. With around 30,000 active PFS members I'm surprised they don't update this faster. I know many players who don't buy material until they know its PFS legal...

Not mad, just saying....

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DM Beckett wrote:

Something to keep in mind is that the PFS leadership had a pretty big change recently, so updates and other things have slowed down because of that and other factors. There are also a lot of products and material to go through, too.

Just my opinion, but I'd much rather everything be done right in this case than something slipping through and down the road players getting angry when their characters are made illegal or ruined to some degree.

We did have a bit of a shake up, but the team is off and running. We know your anxious to see the updated Additional Resources and are working to make it happen!

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Tonya Woldridge wrote:
DM Beckett wrote:

Something to keep in mind is that the PFS leadership had a pretty big change recently, so updates and other things have slowed down because of that and other factors. There are also a lot of products and material to go through, too.

Just my opinion, but I'd much rather everything be done right in this case than something slipping through and down the road players getting angry when their characters are made illegal or ruined to some degree.

We did have a bit of a shake up, but the team is off and running. We know your anxious to see the updated Additional Resources and are working to make it happen!

Glad to hear that, Tonya! Can we expect the update next week?

I hope your transition into the OPC role is going well. Looking forward to seeing more from you in the coming months.

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Actually, even a vague ETA on the update of Additional Resources would be helpful to many.

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You aren't going to get an eta most likely. It's in the web teams Queu now, and so we be patient.

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Saying its in the web teams Queue in and of itself is sort of a vague ETA.

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Traditionally, the updates to the Additional Resources page has been the last Wednesday of the month with at least 2 month delay between release of a product and the appearance in AR. So unfortunately it looks like we may be going 3 months between updates now, Which means up to 4 months between product release and PFS legality.

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I actually think this delay between publication and PFS legality is a good thing - it gives a bit more time for any troublesome items to get shaken out before being made legal. A slight delay now is *much* less troublesome than having to ban an item later because it just doesn't work in the strange world of organized play.

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I can just keep GMing until my Witchborn changeling is legal. ^_^

I'm still boon-hunting for other characters anyway...

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I'm waiting for the new Lamplighter archetype from "Heroes of the Streets" to make it in... decided I'm going to play that one from 0XP.

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I will wait for the day on which I can play the Eldritch Archer.

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Gamerskum wrote:
Saying its in the web teams Queue in and of itself is sort of a vague ETA.

Very true. My fifth star has been in the web team queue since January.

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GM Lamplighter wrote:
I'm waiting for the new Lamplighter archetype from "Heroes of the Streets" to make it in... decided I'm going to play that one from 0XP.

As soon as I saw that Archetype, my first thought was, "well, there is certainly one *very* happy eponymous GM out there right now, I'd wager!" :)

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my concern is that I have a Con this weekend .. I really hate it when FQ's / additional resource updated land AFTER I leave my house for the night / weekend (Im looking at you UC Errata)

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GM Lamplighter wrote:
I actually think this delay between publication and PFS legality is a good thing - it gives a bit more time for any troublesome items to get shaken out before being made legal. A slight delay now is *much* less troublesome than having to ban an item later because it just doesn't work in the strange world of organized play.

If the purpose of PFS (from a business standpoint) is to help drive book sales, this is the opposite of good. You've lost your "new shiny" hype window. Players who wanted to utilize the new content as it is published will be pushed out of PFS. The players who are consistent early adopters are, in and of themselves, large sales drivers via referral. Taking them out of the PFS population actually weakens the PFS business justification.

This is especially bad after the pre-GenCon errata backlash - you have a significant, vocal contingent of promoters (in the NPS-sense of the word) suddenly trending passive and questioning their buying decision, and a subset of them are then given an additional reason not to purchase? Moreover, you have passives floating down to detractor and that same "bonus" reason handed to them? Not a good situation.

I'm all for quality, but there's gotta be a balance of expedience.

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Zak Glade wrote:
Gamerskum wrote:
Saying its in the web teams Queue in and of itself is sort of a vague ETA.
Very true. My fifth star has been in the web team queue since January.

Zak,

I'm very sorry for the delay in the update to your stars. Not sure where the disconnect happened, as the web team is very proactive in updating the info once it is sent to them.

Regardless, we are tracking it down now!

Cheers!

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Tonya Woldridge wrote:
DM Beckett wrote:

Something to keep in mind is that the PFS leadership had a pretty big change recently, so updates and other things have slowed down because of that and other factors. There are also a lot of products and material to go through, too.

Just my opinion, but I'd much rather everything be done right in this case than something slipping through and down the road players getting angry when their characters are made illegal or ruined to some degree.

We did have a bit of a shake up, but the team is off and running. We know your anxious to see the updated Additional Resources and are working to make it happen!

Thanks for the update Tonya, I really appreciate that I can check the site and see an update from you guys that this is something you are actively working on.

Here is to getting the Eldritch Archer PFS legal! ::fingers crossed::

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Seconding the love for Eldritch Archer, it's an awesome archetype.

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Tonya Woldridge wrote:
Zak Glade wrote:
Gamerskum wrote:
Saying its in the web teams Queue in and of itself is sort of a vague ETA.
Very true. My fifth star has been in the web team queue since January.

Zak,

I'm very sorry for the delay in the update to your stars. Not sure where the disconnect happened, as the web team is very proactive in updating the info once it is sent to them.

Regardless, we are tracking it down now!

Cheers!

I really appreciate that, Tonya. I pmed you with a bit more information on a few others from my region who I think are in the same boat.

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Mike Bramnik wrote:
As soon as I saw that Archetype, my first thought was, "well, there is certainly one *very* happy eponymous GM out there right now, I'd wager!" :)

Yeah, it's pretty cool - thanks to whichever of the authors designed it. I'll tell my kids it's a tribute to me, of course. ;)

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Arloro wrote:
I will wait for the day on which I can play the Eldritch Archer.

My magus has always made do with the myrmidarch archetype, but this is so much better. Sadly, he only has 4 games left, so retraining is prohibitively expensive. It does bring up an interesting question though: both archetypes have an ability called "ranged spellstrike." Does the new one overwrite the old one? For once I'd be glad if it did.

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Gamerskum wrote:
Saying its in the web teams Queue in and of itself is sort of a vague ETA.

It's in the queue with the updates for August and September.

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Gleaming Terrier wrote:
I'm new to PFS, so forgive me if this type of question has been asked before. Do older sources often get added to Additional Resources during these updates? For example, Kobolds of Golarion (not for Kobolds, but for feats useful for legal, small characters).

Sometimes we have cause to revisit character options from previously published books—both in order to add previously banned options or to remove previously allowed options. If there's something that you'd like for the team to revisit, I recommend making a separate thread about it (helpful), explain your reasoning (very important), and see if it gains some traction with the community (not essential but serves as a handy metric on our end).

As a note, some banned character options appear on Chronicle sheets as "unlockable" options. I don't believe that's the case with any kobold feats, but that might be where they would appear in the future.

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*cries for no kobolds ever*

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John Compton wrote:
Gamerskum wrote:
Saying its in the web teams Queue in and of itself is sort of a vague ETA.
It's in the queue with the updates for August and September.

Does that mean we can expect them tomorrowish-esque™? Incredisoon? Moresoonerish?

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I am reminded of this

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This comes to mind.

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Sojourner from the Mist Kingdom comes to mind

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