Welcome to the latest installment of "Who Would Win?"
In this thread we will be discussing a hypothetical scenario pitting two of the most powerful and skilled badass normals in recent memory against one another. To account for Riddick's relationship with light and dark environments, assume that the battlefield contains both areas of light and darkness. Say... a warehouse, or a condemned lot lit only by streetlights). Also assume that weapons are restricted to those typical of both fighters - typically, blades, knives, and improvised weapons.
Who would win?
Beatrix Kiddo trained with the Grand Master of Flowers, who taught her the quivering palm technique -- so she's got at least 15 levels in monk right there. She kills 88 people with a sword without breaking a sweat, and we're told she's better with the sword than she is unarmed -- add umpteen levels of whatever! But beyond that, her appearance in the Kill Bill movies makes her the heir to nearly every Chop Sockey film ever made. And all her stunts were done by Zoe Bell, who also did all of Xena's stunts, so you're talking somebody who contests with gods on even footing.
Vin Diesel can't do anything without CGI. Hell, the guy can't even talk. The Bride takes a bullet directly to the brain and recovers from the resultant coma through sheer awesomeness.
The Bride wins, no contest.
I'm surprised at the one-sidedness of the votes.
Remember when the Bride killed eighty-eight guys with no problem?
Remember when Riddick spent half of each movie hiding from fewer opponents than that?
Don't get me wrong, Riddick killed a guy with a teacup. He's a badass, and has night-Batman-level stealth abilities... but I don't exactly feel like Riddick is a "god of battle" in any incarnation. At least not in any way that Beatrix "Black Mamba" Kiddo cannot match.
I hadn't actually weighed in with a vote... but now I will. I'll go with Riddick. Here's why.
As has been pointed out, Beatrix killed a lot of guys in one fight... but let's be more specific. She killed a lot of LACKIES in one fight. And she even nearly lost to senior lackies like GoGo Ubari. She barely made it to the BBEG battle with Lucy Liu. In practically all of her one-on-one fights against a peer, she either nearly died or limped away with a narrow victory after a pitched fight. And the one guy who bested her HANDILY was a "bushwhackin', scrub, alky, piece of sh!t" who couldn't hold a job as a Bouncer and took her out with a shotgun full of rock-salt. That doesn't impress. Now you might argue that the reason he owned her was because he caught her by surprise. Well, that's Riddick's specialty, ain't it? :)
Riddick, in comparison, finishes his fights fast and cleanly - it is usually one-hit-one-kill. Only against the Uber-BBEG does it become a knock-down drag-out fight. Riddick tangles with monsters and wins... not just men. Hell, the guy stared down some igneous tiger... that's gotta be worth a few points.
Yeah, Riddick doesn't go for straight-up fights. That shows he is both a better tactician as well as smarter than ol' Bea. What did Beatrix get for being straight-up? Oh, yeah, a chest full of rock-salt.
Yes, Beatrix received training by a monk. Was he a world-class monk? Not in PF terms. Since he succumbed to poisoning by fish-heads, we can assume he lacked Diamond Body and, therefore, was never more than 10th level. :D Beatrix, even if she were a monk, which I doubt, wasn't at his level. Yes, she learned the 5 Finger Exploding Heart Technique... which apparently is only useful on ex-lovers, sitting down, who are collecting their Pensions.
Now, you might be thinking I've got a serious bro-mance with Riddick. Not the case... I just think that the Bride like Voldemort is VASTLY overrated.
It is unfortunate, because I truly love the bride. But Riddick would put a knife in the base of her skull before she knew what was going on. This is a poor match up, in my opinion, these characters are from two different worlds. Riddick should be fighting a predator, the bride should be facing machete.
*The light goes down*
Riddick: *takes off googles*
*long silence interrupted by ocassional sound of The Bride smashing around in darkness*
*light goes up*
*The Bride looks around terrified weaving her sword in defensive stances*
Somewhere else: *Riddick with googles put on again walks away smelling lock of the Bride's hair*
Kryzbyn wrote:Hey Meat, what is this like 4 times we agree on something now?
I know it's a shortened form of my actual handle, but addressing someone as "hey, meat!" can ONLY sound pejorative. lol
But something like that, yeah.
LOL well I guess that narrows down what a 'meatrace' is... :P
Riddick wins only because he's practically supernatural. The Bride may be awesome at killing low level scrubs but as someone said above, she struggled with every single opponent who was close to her level when it came to fighting. Riddick on the other hand would ensure he had the upper hand and then cut the Bride down before she even knew she was in a fight.
Riddick fighting Batman would be way less one sided and I would give it to Batman no contest as Batman would pull out his "Riddick Repellant" and win the day.
Riddick "struggled" with more than a few of his fights, too - and for every advantage he has in darkness, he has a disadvantage in the light. Also, the Bride was trained by a master martial artist... Riddick has the upper hand if he gets the lights off, but do you really think the Bride is helpless in the darkness? I guarantee she has Blind-Fight.
Also, its true that Richard has battled a "monster" or two in his time, but the Bride may well have been able to do the same - she generally has better weapons. She's not quite as fearless as Riddick is, though.
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The notion that he would play fair is laughable.
but the notion that the Bride would not be able to defend herself in the dark is also laughable.
but the bride is mass oponents.
Riddick is an assassin and is best with one on one opponents.
thus Riddick would be the last man laughing
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With the exception of the Pai Mei scenes, I enjoy the second movie much more due to the monologues and dialogues. Elle's black mamba monologue, Kiddo's conversation with Senior Esteban Vihaio and Bill's Superman monologue are among my favorites. :)
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