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When disarming with a gauntlet can you end up with the weapon in hand as per the ruling on disarm
Disarm
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You can attempt to disarm your opponent in place of a melee attack. If you do not have the Improved Disarm feat, or a similar ability, attempting to disarm a foe provokes an attack of opportunity from the target of your maneuver. Attempting to disarm a foe while unarmed imposes a –4 penalty on the attack.
If your attack is successful, your target drops one item it is carrying of your choice (even if the item is wielded with two hands). If your attack exceeds the CMD of the target by 10 or more, the target drops the items it is carrying in both hands (maximum two items if the target has more than two hands). If your attack fails by 10 or more, you drop the weapon that you were using to attempt the disarm. If you successfully disarm your opponent without using a weapon, you may automatically pick up the item dropped.
spiked gaunlets are said to have 0 weight when part of a set of armor. could someone disarm when wearing full plate and end up with the weapon in hand.
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my dm is once again calling my sheet into quesiton please post your feelings.
if you use it as a weapon then it seems like a no per the RAW.
If you successfully disarm your opponent without using a weapon, you may automatically pick up the item dropped.
RAW, Gauntlets are on the weapon list and include a cost. Therefore qualifies as weapon and disqualifies you for this function.
It is up to your GM to rule this. Asking about it on a forum only serves to ask about it on a forum.
Secondly, for spiked gauntlets you are 100% out of luck:
Gauntlet, Spiked : The cost and weight given are for a single gauntlet. An attack with a spiked gauntlet is considered an armed attack.
If you successfully disarm your opponent without using a weapon, you may automatically pick up the item dropped.
RAW, Gauntlets are on the weapon list and include a cost. Therefore qualifies as weapon and disqualifies you for this function.
It is up to your GM to rule this. Asking about it on a forum only serves to ask about it on a forum.Secondly, for spiked gauntlets you are 100% out of luck:
Gauntlet, Spiked : The cost and weight given are for a single gauntlet. An attack with a spiked gauntlet is considered an armed attack.
So how'd you get the weapon away from the other guy with what is an armored glove? I'm pretty sure you grabbed it....
It is up to your GM to rule this. Asking about it on a forum only serves to ask about it on a forum.
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Can you wield a weapon while wearing a spikedgauntlet in the same hand...
YES
Can you disarm someone while wearing a spiked gauntlet...
YES
i dont see a problem here. and to ask about it in a forum is just one way to try and figure it out since there are devs and experienced players here bltz thanks for your input (that i disagree with but thats not the point) but dont cause the forum to fall apart bringing up that forums are not the best way to do something i dont care to here the neigh saying.
But asking on the forum can give someone a better "hand" than someone who had no information.
If you successfully disarm your opponent without using a weapon, you may automatically pick up the item dropped.
Did you use a weapon?
If so, you can't automatically pick up the item dropped.
If not, you can automatically pick up the item dropped.
Is a gauntlet a weapon? Yes.
If you're wearing gauntlets, but not wielding them, then you're fine. Make the attempt unarmed. You don't get any bonuses from the gauntlets for that attack, things like an enhancement bonus, weapon focus, etc.
spiked gaunlets are said to have 0 weight when part of a set of armor.
A spiked gauntlet weighs 1 lb. (So does a gauntlet)
Some sets of armor include a pair of gauntlets for free, but they still weigh 1 lb each.
See Table: Weapons and Equipment.
could someone disarm when wearing full plate and end up with the weapon in hand.
Did they use a weapon?
If so, can't automatically pick up the item dropped.
If not, they can automatically pick up the item dropped.
I again say how was the weapon disarmed if a gauntlet was used? If you yanked the weapon from their hand would it not by default now be held by you?
I again say how was the weapon disarmed if a gauntlet was used?
The same way the item is disarmed if any other weapon was used.
....yea....OK...I don't agree but que sera sera. But as this is pathfinder society there isn't any leeway with how things are done.
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Basically you can use your hand which has a gauntlet but you can't use the gauntlet itself. The difference is a openhanded grab at the weapon or a punch with the gauntlet. So in order to grab the weapon out of their hand you gain no benefit from weapon focus and greater weapon focus, fighter training (close weapons), or enhancement bonuses on your gauntlets. Other generic sources of enhancement would increase your CMB roll such as true strike, bard song, etc.