Talon Skyfall |
Well whatever happens in Geb, stays in Geb.
Petrova |
Yea, Silver and good weapons. In fact if you learned Versatile weapon, that would help a lot. Trout, this is where I would make a joke about getting into Petrova's pants, but I thought it might be in bad taste.
They were so tight, Petrova had a hard time getting into them.
Of course, that's probably what Talon liked most about them.
Talon Skyfall |
Ssshh, that was supposed to be an obvious secret!
Talon Skyfall |
Oh and I've gone ahead and made a spreadsheet of our current loot. Let me know if I've missed anything, besides a ton of mundane gear that even I don't want to write up.
Talon Skyfall |
Go for it.
Drovya Gregorovitch |
Yeah, I'm guessing we're all in agreement to sell the mundane gear including (half values for resale)
Mwk Bastard Sword (167.5gp)
Mwk Short Sword (155gp)
Mwk Dagger (151gp)
2 shortbows (30gp)
4 suits ragged leather armor (20gp)
3 longswords (22.5gp)
Cacodaemon skeletons (750gp)
Golem Bits (600gp)
Dust jar (65gp)
Alchemy Lab (20,000gp!)
Wedding Ring. (2450gp)
Total: 23907.5gp/5 = 4781.5gp each
I say we use some of the soul gems for armor working from the church of Sarenrae (and if they can cut that faultgem, it's worth 8000gp if cut instead of the 2000gp raw.)
We can also use the Scholar's Ring to read the unexamined books and figure out what to do with them.
Sound good?
Talon Skyfall |
Hey, Drovya! If you look at my spreadsheet, right next to my Class Level, you'll see I did the math already.
Drovya Gregorovitch |
Does anyone mind if I look through the alchemical gear before we sell it. There might be supplies in there to craft some things, like cartridges, silver weapon blanches, etcetera. :)
Fine by me, there's a portable alchemist's lab in the Adventurer's Armory. 20lbs, 75 gp, +2 circumstance bonus to craft (alchemy) checks.
Drovya Gregorovitch |
Hey, Drovya! If you look at my spreadsheet, right next to my Class Level, you'll see I did the math already.
So you did, but I wasn't sure which of the magical gear we were going to get rid of, and I was pretty sure we were going to ditch the mundane stuff.
Talon Skyfall |
Well, I was thinking that, if someone wanted something in particular. Like one of the sets of full plate, that PC could just pay what it's worth and we split it with among the rest. I could clean it up a bit and get rid of the mundane stuff though.
Rohini Soni |
Talon, thanks so much for doing the list. And ditto Drovya -- and I agree re the mundane items. Talon, what about the scholar's ring (4,350) and the elixir of stoneskin -- no values listed for those...
Rohini is interested in Petrova's +1 Mithral shirt and cloak of resistance, and maybe her boots of elvenkind, and probably one of the pearls of power. But under Talon's approach to division of treasure (which is certainly most precisely equitable in terms of GP value), Rohini probably can't afford the Tome of Understanding...
Talon Skyfall |
Well, I forgot to look them up, I'll do so shortly. The others were off the top of my head in terms of cost. You can afford the tome.. It just costs you most of your share and means you can't get the other cool gear. Honestly, I don't think it's worth it at this level, never worth it to sink all your gp into one item.
Hmm, can't find the cost of the elixir anywhere.
Talon Skyfall |
Okay, so it's 1950 or 975 to the pool. He is right though.
Talon Skyfall |
Night!
Drovya Gregorovitch |
Good luck on your exams Trout!
For loot division, I think our first priority should be making sure that everyone has 23.5k gold worth of gear. If everyone started at 10,500 gp at 5th level, then everyone should get 13k more worth of gear.
That being said, I think we can also trade in old gear at half value. So if Talon wants the +1 full plate, he can trade in his +1 Mithral chain (is that a shirt or full chain mail? That might work for Drovya if it's chain mail.)
Also, everything on Talon's spreadsheet is at half value, so make sure you're doubling value when you account for it. Anyway, let's all list what we want here in the discussion thread out of what we have, and what we're getting rid of.
Hanethes Starsprings |
Okay, so 13,000 gp: This would be the ideal anyway... :P
Selling +1 aldori dueling sword for 1160 gp
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14,160 gp
cloak of resistance +3 for 9000 gp
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5,160 gp
+1 mithral aldori dueling sword for 3820 gp
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1140 gp
gunsmith's kit (15 gp)
crafting 20 paper cartridges (120 gp), 20 silver bullet cartridges (280 gp)
Talon Skyfall |
It's a mithral chain shirt. We're each going to get about 14-15k so we're actually going to be slightly over wealth by level. Will put up what I'm getting in a little bit.
Hanethes: You could take one of the cloaks of resistance that we looted, which would only cost you 500 basically and upgrade from there.
Rohini Soni |
How can a cloak of resistance be upgraded? Wouldn't one need to sell an old cloak of resistance and then buy a new, better one? Or is there an upgrade rule I'm not aware of?
Talon Skyfall |
I mean take it to someone who has Craft Wonderous and have them upgrade it via the crafting rules. It would just take a few days. When it's an item with a +x, u can always upgrade it to a higher +x. You just pay the difference and wait for it.
So here's what I got
Sell:
+1 Mithral Shirt -1050
Buy
+1 used Fullplate - 1325
Upgrade said Fullplate -3000
Dusty Rose Ioun Stone(Unless someone else wants it) - 2500
Upgrade Cloak of Resistance - 3000
Belt of Giant Strength - 4000
12775 spent. If people opt to buy loot, I'll have more of course to spend it on.
The Elusive Trout |
One test down; the rest of my finals will be as normal class periods. I have a little time before them, so I'm re-researching a few things.
If Petrova is still lurking, I would like to ask her a couple things about next-of kinnage (whether her family is still around, etc.)
Haka Thunderfoot |
Glad to hear one test is out of the way, Trout (I always have to remember not to call you Chloe).
While you guys have been splitting up your haul, I've been pondering spells. Here's a list of ones I'm considering, which will have to be pared down to accomodate my spells known limits. Let me know if there are ones I have missed, or ones I should cut off the list, or must-haves.
Spells under consideration (spells known= 6, 5, 4, 2):
0: Dancing Lights, Detect Magic, Ghost Sound, Prestidigitation, Sift, Spark, Resistance, Read Magic, Summon Instrument, Unwitting Ally
1: Saving Finale, Vanish, Expeditious Retreat, Hideous Laughter, Silent Image, Lock Gaze, Abundant Ammunition, Touch of Gracelessness
2: Allegro, Alter Self, Blur, Cacophonous Call, Haunting Mists, Heroism, Gallant Inspiration, Invisibility, Mirror Image, Sound Burst, Versatile Weapon,
3: Charm Monster, Confusion, Dispel Magic, Exquisite Accompaniment, Fear, Good Hope, Haste, Invisibility Sphere, Mad Monkeys, Slow, Thundering Drums (maybe not the best spell, but Haka's a drummer, so it fits well), Tiny Hut
Some of these probably make more sense to take as scrolls rather than spells known, like Versatile Weapon – any others? And some spells that are quite good, like Glitterdust, I left off because we already have two arcane casters who have them.
Rohini Soni |
Here is where Rohini is so far on the loot issue.
My understanding is that we are starting off with the notion of 13,000 gp to spend.
To sell:
Mithral shirt (+550gp)
To "buy" from the party loot:
Petrova's +1 Mithral shirt (-1050gp)
Petrova's cloak of resistance+1 (-1000gp)
Petrova's boots of elvenkind (-1250gp)
Pearl of Power 4 (-8000gp)
That puts Rohini at 2,250 gp left to spend, plus any additional amounts we get over 13K. She'll buy some scrolls, maybe a wand, and silver crossbow bolts. She might be interested in the scholar's ring if Kanthuun doesn't go for that. Maybe upgrade the cloak of resistance if she has enough gold. She's also open to suggestions on things to get.
I think she'll get a layer of alchemical silver applied to her +1 spear, which only costs 90gp and will render her weapon silver (but with a -1 to damage). Considering her ineffectiveness in melee, I don't think it makes sense for her to sell her +1 spear at a loss and replace it with a silversheen +1 spear.
I agree with Talon that it doesn't make sense to invest everything in the Tome of Understanding. A +1 to wisdom at this point won't take Rohini to the next bonus level, and her WIS is already 20. She's planning on adding a point to CHAR next level, which would give her another channel each day.
In regards to Petrova's gear, it is clear that Petrova made quite an impact on Rohini -- Petrova's confidence in the group and easy banter with Talon and Arasmes were something pretty foreign to Rohini, who has spent most of her adventuring life on her own -- and wearing Petrova's gear (chain shirt, cloak, and boots) would be a bit of a tribute to Petrova. Of course, if some heirs show up that may change things...
Petrova |
Petrova's family does still live, and Petrova had been helping them out.
However, if any discussions came up on what to do if she died, she said that she would want the rest of the group to benefit from her equipment to survive, and that the survivors simply make a pledge to ensure that her family is taken care of. If that means supporting them after they get back, so be it. If it means dumping 500 GP in their laps, whichvwould support normal people quite well for decades, that's good too
Talon Skyfall |
Oh, I made a mistake but Petrova's cloak is only worth 500 so you another 500 to work with. Otherwise your items look good. Once I know what everyone is going to buy from the loot list, I'll send out the final money share.
And as for Petrova, how would she know? :)
Drovya Gregorovitch |
Drovya wants to sell his Mithral shirt (+550gp)
13,550
Buy +1 Mithral Breastplate (-5,200gp)
8350gp
He will also take the second 4th level Pearl of Power for future use (to be lent to Rohini as needed.) -(8,000gp)
350gp
With remaining funds, he would like to copy some spells here at the college of Dimensional Studies.
Interested in copying the following :
1st - burning hands, infernal healing
2nd - bull's strength, cat's grace
3rd - Fly, Daylight, Haste, Monstrous Physique 1
He will try to trade for copying rights to his own spellbook in lieu of payment wherever possible.
The Elusive Trout |
One could infer she was the Shadow Dancer because she went in with the party, and simply hiding one's face in a veil doesn't always obscure one's identity.
Besides, she was the only female to leave with the party, and I believe that Petrova was a vigilante crime fighter before-hand, yes?
Talon Skyfall |
I was talking about Petrova's dwarf in the sack comment.
Talon Skyfall |
Fly and Haste are both good candidates.
Rohini Soni |
When we get to that point, Rohini will handle things with Petrova's family, perhaps with the help of "sociable" Hanethes to help with any diplomacy. She is certainly willing to take care of the family, probably with a bequest of funds now and later.
Drovya Gregorovitch |
Oh and Haka, that Good Hope spell looks really good, especially since it stacks with stuff like haste or blessing of fervor.
Drovya Gregorovitch |
Petrova, are you sure you don't want us to raise dead on you? It's a shame to see you go.
The Elusive Trout |
Glad to hear one test is out of the way, Trout (I always have to remember not to call you Chloe).
While you guys have been splitting up your haul, I've been pondering spells. Here's a list of ones I'm considering, which will have to be pared down to accomodate my spells known limits. Let me know if there are ones I have missed, or ones I should cut off the list, or must-haves.
Spells under consideration (spells known= 6, 5, 4, 2):
0: Dancing Lights, Detect Magic, Ghost Sound, Prestidigitation, Sift, Spark, Resistance, Read Magic, Summon Instrument, Unwitting Ally
1: Saving Finale, Vanish, Expeditious Retreat, Hideous Laughter, Silent Image, Lock Gaze, Abundant Ammunition, Touch of Gracelessness
2: Allegro, Alter Self, Blur, Cacophonous Call, Haunting Mists, Heroism, Gallant Inspiration, Invisibility, Mirror Image, Sound Burst, Versatile Weapon,
3: Charm Monster, Confusion, Dispel Magic, Exquisite Accompaniment, Fear, Good Hope, Haste, Invisibility Sphere, Mad Monkeys, Slow, Thundering Drums (maybe not the best spell, but Haka's a drummer, so it fits well), Tiny Hut
Some of these probably make more sense to take as scrolls rather than spells known, like Versatile Weapon – any others? And some spells that are quite good, like Glitterdust, I left off because we already have two arcane casters who have them.
Going to warn you-charm and other such mind-effecting spells don't often work in Abaddon.
Haka Thunderfoot |
Going to warn you-charm and other such mind-effecting spells don't often work in Abaddon.
Exactly the sort of info I was looking for. I need to pare down these lists, so any more thoughts (or vital GM info) are welcomed.
Talon Skyfall |
Well, Touch of Gracelessness requires you to be in melee, which I'm guessing you're not going to be good at. You don't really need Expeditious retreat or Allegro since you have Haste and they don't stack. I suggest Remove Fear and Feather Fall for 1st and Tactical Acumen for 2nd. And you could replace Haunting Mists and Cacophonous Call for Glitterdust(No SRm univisible with a chance to blind makes it my favorite spell), and Tongues. For 3rd levels, Glibness is too good for this kind of campaign and you can never have enough Dispel Magics. Other than that it looks good.
Oh and if Petrova somehow changes her mind and we do raise her, I request that I be the first thing she sees when she wakes. :)
Petrova |
I'd allow it, but Petrova wanted to do less pBping...
Heh! You're all too kind, but I am trying to reduce my game load.
Mostly I'm hanging around because I have a post or two left when the conditions are right. If I did want to keep playing though, I'd prefer to make a new character. Petrova was fun from the RP side, but completely ineffective from the combat side, and not just because I was too stupid to think about damage reduction when I built her.
I'll certainly keep checking in for as long as the campaign stays on my active list. It was fun, and if a bunch of my games inexplicably due off and leave me room...