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Sounds good to me, no need to retread old ground.

Tels wrote:
So what are the most memorable encounters you other Cultists have had?

Okay, let's see. Immediately springing to mind, I'm going to go with: fighting vampire spawn in a bordello (one of the spawn was a fellow PCs mother, I am not even kidding). I can't even remember how the combat panned out, or what class Twigs (my PC) was at the time, but the atmosphere, the banter and the laughs I will never forget.

As for memorable encounters I can actually remember the fighting... I recently played two PCs in Hell. Let's call them "Twigs" and "Prince". Their names were "Twigs" and "Prince". Twigs was on a lovely visit to scenic Acheron after being viciously critted by a redcap, one encounter into a session that was reviving our game after a good six months of inactivity. x4 crit mods are cruel things...

Not one to look a gift horse in the mouth, my GM rolled with it and that night we played out a solo session over IM, and in time, we started an entire side campaign in Acheron. Twigs lasted maybe two sessions of it before being viciously coup-de-graced by an NPC ally and sold to Mephistopholes (after we'd been nearly TPK'd by a bullete ten minutes earlier). That was certainly memorable. Perhaps not my favourite memory, but... memorable.

After that I played my first wizard to see what all the fuss was about, and oh man was it fun. Prince was a spellwarp sniper back in the old days that I revived to play in hell. A fellow player picked up a ghost pirate from one of our first encounters. It was a blast. In the next two sessions we'd fight a Rhemoraz while sliding down an avalanche while me and the warlock peppered it with magic. Our pirate comrade was unfortunately swallowed hole. Our already vicious GM decided Hell merited a higher mortality rate. In that same session I fought my first dragon, in an enormous, cylindrical chamber. I was ignored until I dared to take advantage of the creature's fire vulnerability (it was a white dragon), and it turned on me, spoke for the first time and pinned me to the wall. Killing it was one of my biggest triumphs at the game table...

Oh, and this one time, we fought a Toothbear. It was a bear, made out of gums, and teeth. It had a fear attack. To this date, we've never gotten our GM to explain that one...


... hrm, it seems my post has dissapeared. Colour me very confused. I did not think my memorable encounter in a bordello was THAT risque.


Just a quirk of the forums, I wonder? I'd like to know before I repost it. I was looking forward to swapping stories as the adventurers do.


I see it in your recent posts, but not in the threat. It might come back, but it might not. I'd go ahead and re-post it. You can copy the thing from your recent posts for ease if you want.

Bed time for me, managed to put it off for an hour and a half so far, might as well just get it over with.


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Just to be clear, I enjoy all of ya'll's posts, and the debate.
I like Ashiel's creativity, as well as Ciretose's hardline interpretations, and Wraith's overall mastery of the rules.
While I still think it's not anti-RAW to use modifiers in the CHA roll for charm x, doesn't mean I think ya'll are dunces or having some badwrongfun time.
I always learn something from these kinds of threads, and enjoy them immensely.


I don't mind the rules talk, it doesn't ruin the the thread. Cirerose overall is willing to listen to other views, and I have learned some things from his take on things. I was getting more frustrated with Alryiel because it seemed he thought we were all pretty dumb if we didn't automatically agree with him. Both of them seem to have a personal vendetta against Ashiel but Ciretose has been toning it down lately and he doesn't seem to let his emotions cloud his judgement so much he can't think straight.


Removed a post and responses. Being abusive towards other posters isn't okay.


Chris Lambertz wrote:
Removed a post and responses. Being abusive towards other posters isn't okay.

Well gosh, there was some 150 posts made yesterday. It's going to be tough finding out exactly which ones were removed...

Were they just abusive? Or did they have any info pertaining to the argument?


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I spent about 5 minutes sifting through the posts trying to figure out who got deleted and then I was like "wait a minute what am I doing?"


Grimmy wrote:
I spent about 5 minutes sifting through the posts trying to figure out who got deleted and then I was like "wait a minute what am I doing?"

I'm more curious as to whether or not it was my posts. I'm certain some of my posts against Ciretose are borderline, but I can't be sure. I make a lot of posts against him and I'd probably skip right over it without even realizing it.


If you think the mods might have removed your posts, that alone is evidence you should change your action.


Evil Lincoln wrote:
If you think the mods might have removed your posts, that alone is evidence you should change your action.

When I'm arguing with Ciretose, I may say things that don't come out right as I intended, or may be borderline bashing (sometimes I intend it exactly as it comes out or cross over into bashing). But at the same time, that usually happens when he comes onto a thread and starts taking potshots at Ashiel by misquoting his text to make it look like Ashiel is some sort of hellspawn determined to ruin the game (see cult of Ashiel above).

True, it's not excuse, but I still do it. I can't think of any post in this thread that would have been deleted, but I acknowledge the possibility that mine was deleted.


How did this get to so many pages?!


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Cheapy wrote:

How did this get to so many pages?!

It seems like most peole have strong (either good or bad)opinion about ashiel.


Cheapy wrote:

How did this get to so many pages?!

Because our Lord and Master Ashiel is a most wonderful being. He descends from the heavens to grace us with his presence, leaving advice, tips and guides wherever he may go.

All bow before the Lord Ashiel! Bow and praise his magnificence!


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Cheapy wrote:

How did this get to so many pages?!

We've had several rules debates, several stories, and several page-long arguments. Frankly though, I have no idea. It hasn't so much been opinions on Ashiel as people who love to argue with her and those of us that like to spectate.

Evil Lincoln wrote:


If you think the mods might have removed your posts, that alone is evidence you should change your action.

"Oh please mistah Lincoln~! I done good! My post is right back where it was, see! I din' make no jabs at nobody!"

Seeing you're up, Tels, I think it's your turn to tell us about your memorable encounters! I'd love to hear something from Cheapy and Evil Lincoln if they're here to stay, too.


I actually did share one of my experiences early. I'll go find it.

[Edit] Found it!

Curse of the Crimson Throne Spoiler:
During the Flameford Camp fight, was one of the most fun experiences I've had as a GM.
The party had just finished the Trial, and decided not to rest (well most of them) and decided to participate in pre-party events. The Dwarf Rogue/Shadow Dancer really embraced the Shoanti culture (was always an outcast amongst Dwarves). He shaved his head (kept the beard), got a tattoo and began wearing a bonechest piece (like this), even showed a Shoanti woman exactly why Dwarves are so short (well-hung). They drank, and danced, and partied before the celebrations, during the celebrations and most of them tanked passed out. The Mystic Theurge caught some shut-eye before the festivities, so did his Paladin-cohort and the Arcane Archer (I'll get back to him).

This all took place at the beginning of the session, mind you. I asked everyone what they were doing, and when I got to the Arcane Archer, he mentioned he was going to be patrolling the area. I asked him, "Really? In the heart of the most powerful of the Shoanti Clans, at their strong hold, you're going to be patrolling the perimeter while surrounded by dozens of warriors and tribesmen, who themselves are on watch? Why?"

He responded with, "Because the session just began and we'll probably be fighting soon."

If it weren't for this one player, I think the session would have been nothing but epic, but he really pissed me off with that comment. I told him that was seriously metagaming, but he didn't seem to care, and told me he's on patrol. He didn't partake of the ceremonies at all, certain they would be under attack because the game session had only just begun.

Anyway, the Gargoyles and Red Mantis attacked in the night, starting with all the Gargoyles (plus a few extra, we had a large party). Cinnabar had been spying on the party, and knew the Oracle of Fire loved tossing around Fireballs (default attack). She had the Gargoyles drop casks of oil all over the ground. They formed huge puddles of flammable liquid that also made it difficult terrain. Much slipping and sliding.

Anyway, the party first noticed the Gargoyles when they killed the Monk (who dropped entirely out of the campaign). The Dwarf woke up in a drunken stupor, naked, clutching his new bride (yes, they got married). He and his bride were the only other ones in their yurt, the others were out by the fire, nursing their drinks, singing and generally being the last ones to leave. When the Dwarf yelled, and leaped up to attack the Gargoyles in his yurt, the others thought he was just dreaming. It wasn't until he started screaming they were under attack, did they actually react.

Now comes the fun part. None of them were wearing armor. They had all gotten dressed up for the parties (except the Arcane Archer), so they had to rush back to the yurt and gather their stuff. They drove off the Gargoyles, when the casks began falling. They grabbed their weapons and rushed to battle.

It was a harrowing fight, I promise you that. There was a new player who had joined some 3 sessions ago. In that time, I killed off his character twice. He made some really bad decisions. Like not mentioning he was at 5 HP until a bullete was getting his Leap Attack off.

Anyway, in total, there were the barbarians, Krojun Eats-What-He-Kills, Kratchet (Cleric/Paladin cohort of the Mystic Theurge), Lucius (Cleric/Wizard-Mystic Theurge), Grendel Shadowbeard (Rogue/Shadow Dancer), Caresir (Fighter/Wizard-Arcane Archer), Oracle of Fire (who's name I can't remember Grr), Barbarian (who we never even named because the player dies so much), and Trinia. All them, verse the Gargoyles, Cinderlander, Cinnabar, and Red Mantis. Except for the Gargoyles, the other three were all updated by me for Pathfinder and this party.

At first, the party felt overwhelmed, then the Barbarians and Krojun came out. People were falling left and right, Barbarians mostly as the Assassins didn't fight fair. When the Cinderlander showed up, all combat sort of screeched to a halt as Krojun decided to fight him alone. Grendel decided now was the best time, and ganked a Red Mantis while Krojun and the Cinderlander fought, which restarted the battle.

I actually rolled all the damage and attacks Krojun and the Cinderlander dealt, and Krojun very nearly lost. It was shortly after when Cinnabar showed up. She tried persuading Krojun and the Shoanti to turn against the party, to no avail. She warned them there would be consequences for defying her, and the two Red Mantis that flanked her, threw down alchemist fire, and began igniting the whole camp. Each of the Red Mantis seemed immune to the flames (Resist Energy Potions) but the Barbarians cared not for them any longer. They worked quickly to get as many of the women and children out, and what supplies they could save, they did.

Caresir, the Arcane Archer, was devastating in this fight (he saw me min-max an archer once, and more or less copied the build). He had more kills to his name in the fight, than any two combatants combined. When the Red Mantis lit the camp, she cast a Darkness spell and vanished. She actually snuck out of sight, drank a Potion of Invisibility, and crept up on the Archer.

When we play, attacks made from Invisibility are all denied dex to AC. I've seen others argue that only the first attack is denied dex to AC, but we play otherwise.

Cinnabar landed some 5 attacks on Caresir (potion of haste plus two-weapon fighting with Sawtooth Sabers). At 1d8+3+4d6 on each attack, plus 2 crits... well, he didn't make it. I did intend to hurt him badly from the beginning for meta-gaming, but didn't intend to kill him.

Fortunately, his Wife called at about the same time and he had to go home, but he wasn't happy. He kept trying to argue that he got a reflex save to avoid the attacks, or something to that effect. I gave him a Perception check to spot Cinnabar, and he rolled a natural 20 (got 43). I rolled in front of him for Cinnabar's opposed Stealth check. Rolled a Natural 20 (got 60 something). He wasn't happy.

Anyway, shortly after this, the unnamed Barbarian died as well (he didn't bother to mention he was at low HP this time either). I let him play Krojun after this, and the party started to hunt her down. The Paladin pulled out a Decanter of Endless Water to fight the fire, so he was tending to that issue.

At this point, it was a Lucius, Trinia, the Oracle, Grendel, Krojun and Kratchet left standing. With the exception of Kratchet, the party began chase with Cinnabar.

I should mention, I enlarged Flameford Camp to be significantly larger than the map indicated. I just don't see how hundreds of Barbarians could live in some 12 yurts, in an area that was some 200 ft across.

Cinnabar took off into the night, taunting the party. I had each person roll an intelligence check, Lucius had Profession: Soldier and he rolled that instead. No one realized she was kiting.

She drew the party into the darkness, and began hit and running on the party. She led them back to the yurts, where she had a few Red Mantis left remaining. It was Cinnabar and Krojun hot on her heels when she rounded a yurt, and two Red Mantis were standing there. They both cast Hold Person on Krojun, who made the first save, and rolled a natural 1 on the second. Cinnabar's turn came up next, with Krojun adjacent. He was beheaded as the party pulled up closer.

Lucius cast one of the few useful spells he had prepared, Vampiric Touch, and finished her off (she had some 5 HP at this point). They were ecstatic. However, they now realized they had no one left who could really stand up against the Red Mantis is combat. No one except the half-drunk naked Dwarf who had been fighting this entire time, unarmored, wearing only his bone plate thing he got from the Shoanti women he wed.

He went toe-to-to with the Red Mantis, who kept Feinting for Sneak Attacks since he never let them get a Flank. Lucius and the Oracle used all their remaining spells (so did Trinia) to keep Grendel on his feet.

When the fight was finally over, Lucius, the Oracle, Grendel, and Trinia were the only ones left standing, and they all had under 20 hp left.


Daaaamn, that sounds tense! I've always wanted to salvage the Shoanti bits for a Runelords game. Glad to see someone having nice things to say about them for a change.


Twigs wrote:
Daaaamn, that sounds tense! I've always wanted to salvage the Shoanti bits for a Runelords game. Glad to see someone having nice things to say about them for a change.

To this day, the player who runs Grendel, seriously considers playing naked all the time to embrace his Shaonti family closer. Unfortunately, the game ended shortly after that due to a variety of reasons.


Tels wrote:
Twigs wrote:
Daaaamn, that sounds tense! I've always wanted to salvage the Shoanti bits for a Runelords game. Glad to see someone having nice things to say about them for a change.
To this day, the player who runs Grendel, seriously considers playing naked all the time to embrace his Shaonti family closer. Unfortunately, the game ended shortly after that due to a variety of reasons.

Very cool. Awesome story as well. I think if the player expressed interest in playing without armor for those reasons, I'd probably have to see if we couldn't homebrew something that would work for him.


Ashiel Cultist wrote:
Cheapy wrote:

How did this get to so many pages?!

Because our Lord and Master Ashiel is a most wonderful being. He descends from the heavens to grace us with his presence, leaving advice, tips and guides wherever he may go.

All bow before the Lord Ashiel! Bow and praise his magnificence!

I shall only bow the pretender Ashiel once she has properly converted over to legions of the Many Eyed Shadow that is my omnipotent and everlasting darkness Lord Wraithstrike.


Wraithstrike Minion #1 wrote:
Ashiel Cultist wrote:
Cheapy wrote:

How did this get to so many pages?!

Because our Lord and Master Ashiel is a most wonderful being. He descends from the heavens to grace us with his presence, leaving advice, tips and guides wherever he may go.

All bow before the Lord Ashiel! Bow and praise his magnificence!

I shall only bow the pretender Ashiel once she has properly converted over to legions of the Many Eyed Shadow that is my omnipotent and everlasting darkness Lord Wraithstrike.

Truly, the Lord Wraithstrike is a most majestic being, but I assure you, even he pale before the glorious radiance that is our Divine Progenitor, He-Who-Breaks-All-Rules, Ashiel the Magnificent!

Silver Crusade

Ashiel Cultist wrote:
Truly, the Lord Wraithstrike is a most majestic being, but I assure you, even he pale before the glorious radiance that is our Divine Progenitor, He-Who-Breaks-All-Rules, Ashiel the Magnificent!

"Immortal ain't bulletproof!"

There is only one being that rules these boards and it is furry, has one demonic eye and two stuffed thumbs! Me!


I thought they all came to see my ears mostly.

Silver Crusade

Rabbits, always have to have the last earful!


Twigs wrote:


Evil Lincoln wrote:


If you think the mods might have removed your posts, that alone is evidence you should change your action.

"Oh please mistah Lincoln~! I done good! My post is right back where it was, see! I din' make no jabs at nobody!"

Seeing you're up, Tels, I think it's your turn to tell us about your memorable encounters! I'd love to hear something from Cheapy and Evil Lincoln if they're here to stay, too.

Twigs, I still can't see your post, I wanted to read your story. Can you repost without the part that offended the mods or whatever?

Confused, I thought our story sharing was the least contentious thing in this otherwise bitter thread.


Why not just create a for-fun Pantheon, and mark Wraithstrike and Ashiel as friendly allies, in the sort of way a NG and LG character would be allies? :)

Then you could have a cleric of a pantheon. :D


It should be on the bottom of page 15. Nope! Gone again! I think it's just been sucked into a black hole, there wasnt anything particularly offensive in there. I deleted the repost when it appeared again, but here it is:

Twigs wrote:

Okay, let's see. Immediately springing to mind, I'm going to go with: fighting vampire spawn in a bordello (one of the spawn was a fellow PCs mother, I am not even kidding). I can't even remember how the combat panned out, or what class Twigs (my PC) was at the time, but the atmosphere, the banter and the laughs I will never forget.

As for memorable encounters I can actually remember the fighting... I recently played two PCs in Hell. Let's call them "Twigs" and "Prince". Their names were "Twigs" and "Prince". Twigs was on a lovely visit to scenic Acheron after being viciously critted by a redcap, one encounter into a session that was reviving our game after a good six months of inactivity. x4 crit mods are cruel things...

Not one to look a gift horse in the mouth, my GM rolled with it and that night we played out a solo session over IM, and in time, we started an entire side campaign in Acheron. Twigs lasted maybe two sessions of it before being viciously coup-de-graced by an NPC ally and sold to Mephistopholes (after we'd been nearly TPK'd by a bullete ten minutes earlier). That was certainly memorable. Perhaps not my favourite memory, but... memorable.

After that I played my first wizard to see what all the fuss was about, and oh man was it fun. Prince was a spellwarp sniper back in the old days that I revived to play in hell. A fellow player picked up a ghost pirate from one of our first encounters. It was a blast. In the next two sessions we'd fight a Rhemoraz while sliding down an avalanche while me and the warlock peppered it with magic. Our pirate comrade was unfortunately swallowed hole. Our already vicious GM decided Hell merited a higher mortality rate. In that same session I fought my first dragon, in an enormous, cylindrical chamber. I was ignored until I dared to take advantage of the creature's fire vulnerability (it was a white dragon), and it turned on me, spoke for the first time and pinned me to the wall. Killing it was one of my biggest triumphs at the game table...

Oh, and this one time, we fought a Toothbear. It was a bear, made out of gums, and teeth. It had a fear attack. To this date, we've never gotten our GM to explain that one...


Seriously, anyone who can solve the mystery of the toothbear will have my eternal gratitude. It must be from a book somewhere, right? D:


Toothbear is a monster from the 3.5 tome of magic. Can't remeber its real name and I'm not at home right now.


Twigs wrote:
Seriously, anyone who can solve the mystery of the toothbear will have my eternal gratitude. It must be from a book somewhere, right? D:

I believe Talonhawke is right. I immediately thought of Tome of Magic due to the vestige with a very similar appearance. I believe there's a template for it, as well as one for shadowed creatures and a few other things.

EDIT: Actually I think the shadow creatures are called "Umbral".

Dark Archive

Is this the 'petulantly nitpick and snipe at anything Ashiel's every said, done or thought in their life, because I'm jealous that they have a thread devoted to praising them and I don't' thread, or am I in the wrong place?

Anywho, Ashiel. Pshaw. Possibly even fiddle-dee-dee, if I may be so bold.


Yup it's that thread. If you're going to be in here please contribute by identifying something that is wrong with Ashiel


Set wrote:

Is this the 'petulantly nitpick and snipe at anything Ashiel's every said, done or thought in their life, because I'm jealous that they have a thread devoted to praising them and I don't' thread, or am I in the wrong place?

Anywho, Ashiel. Pshaw. Possibly even fiddle-dee-dee, if I may be so bold.

Omigod it's Set! *fan gurgle*

Set collects my favorites like they were coins! :3
So glad to see you here Set, and thank you! I laughed and smiled! ^-^

Silver Crusade

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Grimmy wrote:
Yup it's that thread. If you're going to be in here please contribute by identifying something that is wrong with Ashiel

Her avatar doesn't have enough blue-orange contrast.


Wraithstrike Minion #1 wrote:
Ashiel Cultist wrote:
Cheapy wrote:

How did this get to so many pages?!

Because our Lord and Master Ashiel is a most wonderful being. He descends from the heavens to grace us with his presence, leaving advice, tips and guides wherever he may go.

All bow before the Lord Ashiel! Bow and praise his magnificence!

I shall only bow the pretender Ashiel once she has properly converted over to legions of the Many Eyed Shadow that is my omnipotent and everlasting darkness Lord Wraithstrike.

This is why he is Minion #1. :)

Now I have to get back to overtaking the Fishy Bowl.

Now with that aside I will be telling a tale later tonight about a battle I GM'd. I will try to hide spoilers as much as possible, while keeping the spirit of the tale.


Sweet.

Dark Archive

Grimmy wrote:
Yup it's that thread. If you're going to be in here please contribute by identifying something that is wrong with Ashiel

Her left eye is higher than her right eye. Well, and she looks crazed.

I don't even know where to start with what's wrong with wraithstrike's eyes. Ningauble's eye number seven is squinty, and I don't trust it.


One of the big issues I have with Ashiel, that keeps me from being able to say she is a really great poster, is that her breath seems to mist up the air due to condensation or something.


There is a part of me that wants to set up domains and stuff for a god named Ashiel, just so I can see who I piss off.


Tels wrote:
There is a part of me that wants to set up domains and stuff for a god named Ashiel, just so I can see who I piss off.

LOL. I think it would be funny.


Oh man! The toothbeast! There it is! Pounce, Rake, Blindsight, and a DC 13 AoE frighten (and it could charge after anyone it frightened really quickly). Frankly I dunno how my rogue would've survived that.

Turns out my group mates all knew this was there, the gits. But I'm still excited to find it nonetheless! :D


wraithstrike wrote:
Tels wrote:
There is a part of me that wants to set up domains and stuff for a god named Ashiel, just so I can see who I piss off.
LOL. I think it would be funny.

Better yet, the Lord Wraithstrike and the Master Ashiel set up domains for the other!


Tels wrote:


System Mastery Book 4: Tactics for the Tactless.

When's that one out?

I need to optimise.


Tels wrote:
There is a part of me that wants to set up domains and stuff for a god named Ashiel, just so I can see who I piss off.

If I was to say, I'd definitely consider myself LG, and would probably guess Law, Good, Artifice, Community, and Death. :3

And yes, I'm aware that sounds bizarre. XD


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Ashiel wrote:
Tels wrote:
There is a part of me that wants to set up domains and stuff for a god named Ashiel, just so I can see who I piss off.

If I was to say, I'd definitely consider myself LG, and would probably guess Law, Good, Artifice, Community, and Death. :3

And yes, I'm aware that sounds bizarre. XD

Undeath subdomain, to be sure.


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Nah, not really. It just means a community that has you as it's patron, is going to be a bunch of good people with strict laws. They love inventing and put the community first. Depending on your use of dead (for or against undead, like Pharasma), they could revere the Dead as sacred, abhorring those abominations that rise again. Or they could worship the Dead as honored ancestors; praying to them as conduits to your magnificence. Or they could intermingle with the Dead, similar to Geb, with the mindless working the fields, while the intelligent and living continue to create, invent, and build communities that could literally last ages as the intelligent undead ensure their survival, giving advice, solving problems, and manipulating foreign powers.

[Edit] I gotta say, I'm liking this idea more and more...


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Tels wrote:

Nah, not really. It just means a community that has you as it's patron, is going to be a bunch of good people with strict laws. They love inventing and put the community first. Depending on your use of dead (for or against undead, like Pharasma), they could revere the Dead as sacred, abhorring those abominations that rise again. Or they could worship the Dead as honored ancestors; praying to them as conduits to your magnificence. Or they could intermingle with the Dead, similar to Geb, with the mindless working the fields, while the intelligent and living continue to create, invent, and build communities that could literally last ages as the intelligent undead ensure their survival, giving advice, solving problems, and manipulating foreign powers.

[Edit] I gotta say, I'm liking this idea more and more...

Definitely the latter one. Undead utopia would definitely be my thing. One of my favorite cultures in my home setting is the desert dwelling undead/living folks. Their society is built around developing culture. They're ruled by a queen that has lived an exceedingly long time (no one is sure as to her true age), and most of their sub-leaders are undead who have also been trusted for many years (for example, the governess of their mainland colonies is also a lich, around CR 12-13). Their citizens are almost all adepts or some sort of spellcaster (they have no commoners because everyone goes to special schools to learn about magic, plus their choice of a trade, art, or scholarly pursuit). Their main labor force are mindless undead (who effectively have a +0 in anything requiring a mind) which are directed by trained professionals to do the duties that most untrained laborers due in other lands (such as picking food from fields, digging trenches, planting seeds, etc). They are also used as a standing army.

So the villages in the colonies are literally full of undead. Some of the natives hate it, because the country just to the north of them hates undead due to religious reasons (and prior to the colonists, the only other undead controlled power in the region has not left a good taste in the mouths of anyone, because they are ruled by a tyrant who happily abuses his power). Fortunately, most aren't willing to start an outright war with them because the colonies have surprising numbers on their lands (you got lots of adepts who each command a pile of undead), and their workers are standing soldiers (they even wear armor and weapons in the fields that they never take off).

The first time the PCs ventured from the Omas Kingdom (where undead are abhorred) and headed south into the colonies, they were very surprised. They were expecting to come to some sort of terrible desolate place where everyone had tusks and tried to eat you! They were very surprised when the first person they met was a professional dancer and a village full of orchards, vineyards, and farms growing crops; where the dancer had them try some of the local wines and enjoy some foreign music.

"I think maybe I won't believe everything I hear from now on." - Fighter


I would imagine the feat Adept Channel plays a large part in the success of the military. I imagine that an Undead with Adepts every ten ranks with Adept Channel and Extra Channel* would be a terrifying enemy to face.

When you think about it, your Undead Utopia would be a pain in the ass to conquer via armies. Not only does it have fully living citizens, they're citizens continue to serve after death. You effectively double the size of the army because no one ceases to serve.

*Extra Channel requires Channel Energy class feature, while Adept Channel grants the ability to Channel Energy as a feat. Technically, Adept's won't qualify, but I really don't see it as unreasonable to allow it.


I believe Lord Wraithstrike only has one Domain - Awesome. Awesome Domain allows the caster to use any and all Domain powers as the caster chooses.

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