Lore warden / monk martial artist
Eldritch Heritage feats with destined bloodline
Monk, Unarmed Fighter, or Ranger (w/ Improved Unarmed Strike and Two-Weapon Fighting style) would all work. Ranger has some nice thematic elements. Unarmed Fighter is awesome at combat maneuvers and a pretty dynamic fighting style.
Superstitious barbarian.
Edit: She does occationally rage. Also if you can give her a few levels of Pally and a few levels of monk. That'll cover the redonkulous saves and the often divine-ish interventions.
Depends on which Slayer; Faith ran around the whole alignment wheel, Buffy changed a lot... Advanced creature template? Haunted One might work too.
Willow would be harder to do, her powered-up form seems to be: "Temporary gain several (read; a lot of) levels"
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I'm just going to assume the show, as NOBODY would ever want to emulate the movie. :)
Oh, really?
How come this thread was moved to Conversions? I want advice on the best way to build a Slayer.
Yeah i don't get that either. But seriously, i think people are missing the point, the buffy combat style is the inspiration, i don't think the OP actually wants to play "Buffy"... Or do you?
human with advanced template would be my guess..... or jsut roll up an azlanti character either way for a straight human....
doing blade or Blood RAyne style would be easier to some point... both of them being Damphirs
And different kind of Damphirs; Blade (at least in the movies) has most of their (vampire) strength, almost none of their weakness, Rayne has vulnerability to water and Sunlight amongst other things.
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How come this thread was moved to Conversions? I want advice on the best way to build a Slayer.Yeah i don't get that either. But seriously, i think people are missing the point, the buffy combat style is the inspiration, i don't think the OP actually wants to play "Buffy"... Or do you?
Correct, I just want to play a Slayer, not Buffy herself.
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Depends on which Slayer; Faith ran around the whole alignment wheel, Buffy changed a lot... Advanced creature template? Haunted One might work too.
Willow would be harder to do, her powered-up form seems to be: "Temporary gain several (read; a lot of) levels"
Yeah, I was thinking the same thing on alignment. Buffy couldn't be a monk - she was NEVER lawful. I'd peg her as CG.
I like the barbarian idea. She really did rage. Just go with unarmed feats all over the place, and maybe find a totem that would go well with the concept.
Isn't the slayer power coming from some demon the first slayer consumed (with the help of some mages) ages ago? Been a while so a bit fuzzy on the details.
So she could be some sort of tiefling (without any weird demonic looks) or maybe aasimar even.
Nah, it was forced upon her iirc. Anyway, I'd go inquisitor. Seems most fitting to me. Flavor the spells as her demonic power and judgment fits perfectly. Bane too
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A watered-down version of the half-fiend template could represent demon-derived 'Slayer' powers.
From Defenses/Qualities; drop immunity to poison (replace with +4 to poison saves from half-celestial, and add +4 saves vs. disease) and cut all energy resistances to 5 (or entirely...). Keep the DR and maybe the SR.
From Speed; drop winged flight, add +10 ft. ground speed.
From Melee; drop claws and bite, replace with a slam attack as a creature one size class larger (1d8 for a Buffy-sized person).
From Special Attacks; replace Smite Good 1/day with Smite Evil 1/day, and drop all spell-like abilities.
From Abilities; +4 to Str, Dex and Con, +2 to Int, Wis and Cha.
If you have access to D20 Modern, there was a Shadow Slayer prestige class. That is exactly what you are looking for! It's pretty powerful though! (Maybe someone can post a link to it, if it's online somewhere?)
Slayer in the Buffyverse is more a template than a class.
In the Buffy RPG a slayer gets:
-A bonus to str. ,dex, con., and will that allow you to break the mortal stat cap.
-An enhancement to health in addition to the increased con.
-Minor regeneration.
-A vampire sense (Although Buffy rarely used this and tended to rely more on her fashion sense).
-An enhancement to reflexes in the form of an initiative bonus
-An immunity to fear in all but the most bizarre supernatural circumstances.
-A free rank in weapons and unarmed combat.
Try to find something that replicates these is my suggestion.
In the Buffy RPG a slayer gets:
-A bonus to str. ,dex, con., and will that allow you to break the mortal stat cap.
-An enhancement to health in addition to the increased con.
-Minor regeneration.
-A vampire sense (Although Buffy rarely used this and tended to rely more on her fashion sense).
-An enhancement to reflexes in the form of an initiative bonus
-An immunity to fear in all but the most bizarre supernatural circumstances.
-A free rank in weapons and unarmed combat.Try to find something that replicates these is my suggestion.
-okay
-this can be represented in hitdice/class levels-fast healing? Idk if they regrow limbs or not.
-eh? Like finding vampires?
-improved initiative
-decent willsave plus some bravery
-a free rank?
In the Buffy RPG a slayer gets:
-A bonus to str. ,dex, con., and will that allow you to break the mortal stat cap.
-An enhancement to health in addition to the increased con.
-Minor regeneration.
-A vampire sense (Although Buffy rarely used this and tended to rely more on her fashion sense).
-An enhancement to reflexes in the form of an initiative bonus
-An immunity to fear in all but the most bizarre supernatural circumstances.
-A free rank in weapons and unarmed combat.Try to find something that replicates these is my suggestion.
-okay
-this can be represented in hitdice/class levels
-fast healing? Idk if they regrow limbs or not.
-eh? Like finding vampires?
-improved initiative
-decent willsave plus some bravery
-a free rank?
I don't think they could regrow limbs.
Combat skills were represented by skill groups. So maybe a few weapon Focuses.Vampire sense. If a slayer makes the check they detect vampires within a certain range. So, use detect undead spell.
fast healing doesn't equal regeneration
and I think it would be better to make a lvl 1 teenager girl with attitude problems and a point in profession (acting)
XD
ah right, and get Giles as mentor (or he could get you as familiar) or you have zero chance at survival
Buffy really doesn't come off as a Monk in any way other then punching and kicking stuff which Improved Unarmed Strike can cover pretty well. If it was me making Buffy I would first create a template called "Slayer". Based on all information I can find Buffy is as strong if not stronger then all but the eldest vampires; so for my template I would start with "Vampire" as a base. I would keep all the stat boosts being that a "Slayer" needs to be as strong as her quarry.
"Slayer"
Ability Scores: +6 Str, +4 Dex, +4 Con, +2 Cha
Skills: +8 Magic bonus on Bluff, Sense Motive, Knowledge (History)
Fast Healing 2
Detect Evil Aura: A Slayer can detect the presence of Evil creatures as a cleric of his/her class lvl or HD. This ability encircles the Slayer and extends 60ft.
A for Buffy herself, I would make her a Fighter with an emphasis on Dex allowing damage from her Strength to come from her mystical abilities. The class answers her ability to wield a varied arsenal of weapons and Improved Unarmed Strike describes her punching and kicking. Everything else is just RP IMHO
Gestalt monk//ranger with favored enemies undead, outsiders (evil), constructs (Adam), humans, maybe aberrations.
Definitely dump Int.
She always reminded me of a Mercykiller. Very MY WAY OR THE HIGHWAY.
Max Acrobatics, probably Climb, Intimidate, Knowledge arcana/history/religion, Perception, Stealth.
Gestalt monk//ranger with favored enemies undead, outsiders (evil), constructs (Adam), humans, maybe aberrations.
Definitely dump Int.
She always reminded me of a Mercykiller. Very MY WAY OR THE HIGHWAY.
Max Acrobatics, probably Climb, Intimidate, Knowledge arcana/history/religion, Perception, Stealth.
Did you mean the Martial Artist archetype for Monk?
And I wouldn't say "Dump INT", but I wouldn't raise it either.
There's a number of ways you could do it, but I'd be inclined to go 2 levels of monk for martial arts feats, 1d6 unarmed damage, Wis bonus to AC, and Evasion, and Acrobatics as a class skill. Then the rest of the way Ranger for favored enemy, improved BAB, tracking, and other skills. Favored Terrain would be urban or cemetery.
Don't forget to boost her skills with the wooden stake.
If I were doing a Buffy style campaign I'd probably incorporate the Defense bonus based on class from Unearthed Arcana/d20 Modern to improve AC without requiring gear reliance.
If you wanted to make Buffy accurate to the Slayer concept, I'd probably make a Slayer template:
+4 or 6 to Str, Dex, Con
Fast Healing 1
Unarmed attacks bypass the DR of undead and evil outsiders
Nightmares: Can give prophetic warning 1/week but Slayer is at -2 to Wisdom for 24 hours after she receives the vision (or some such).
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I still think wisdom is the lowest stat, and that would make some things related to a monk completely useless. Even the Martial Artist Archetype.
She really does fail her will saves all the time.
Also, Buffy is somewhat lawful. I don't have a problem with the alignment issue. She definitely has a code.
Wisdom needs to be your dump stat. Remember how Buffy always fails her will saves, but she never realizes it? She has "slayer immunity."
http://www.criticallytouched.com/buffy/images/4x09_2.jpg
Usually against something that would affect people with better Will than her anyway or when her will has a morale(sp?) penality. TBQH, I think her WIS/Will/Perception vary a lot to the point of being a joke sometimes.
Probably a relatively low Int, relatively high Wis, high Charisma.
She often doesn't know what's going, but usually knows what to do, and when needed, get other people to do it too.
She is relatively perceptive, especially against her favored enemy.
She probably has Good Fortitude and Reflex saves and poor Will saves, with possibly a bonus against some kinds of effects, like fear and possibly compulsions.
She is very very Strong (can break or bend metal objects with ease, throw 300 pound monsters around like ragdolls, etc.), very Dexterous, but possibly only above average in Constitution, with some mystical faster than average healing (like 1d6 hit points per hit die per night of rest) and DR/-.
She might have some Inquisitor class features, like Wisdom to Knowledge checks about monsters, some bane ability, stern gaze, etc. Maybe the Teamwork Feats and Solo Tactics, too.
Yeah, I actually would say Buffy has decent Int, lower Wis -- or a Wisdom penalty in certain circumstances. She is intuitive and perceptive, but also very impulsive and sometimes does not read situations well -- could just be a high Perception and some other skills with a lower base state.
I would look at the Chevalier prestige class. She gets immunity to fear and can smite evil once a day
Unarmed Strike based Paladin?
Maybe some archetype that loses spell casting and lay on hands.
Could work, sort of.
Definitely martial artist/ ranger. A template almost for sure. Make it close in str to the vampire template.
Rest of the cast would be:
Willow- witch
Giles- inquisitor
Xander- epic lvl commoner!
Oz- commoner (werewolf template)
Angel- lore warden (vampire template)
Tara- sorcerer
Cordelia- aristocrat? (Half-fiend template during the angel years)
Spike- barbarian
From Angel:
Doyle- oracle
Wesley- inquisitor
Gunn- fighter/ ranger
Lorne- teifling bard
Fred- alchemist
Connor- (never happened, jk) half-fiend ranger
Miss anything?
I actually wrote up a base Slayer Class, combining alot of martial artist/ranger/fighter type abilities for a crossover campaign. I could post it if you like.
I actually wrote up a base Slayer Class, combining alot of martial artist/ranger/fighter type abilities for a crossover campaign. I could post it if you like.
Sure! Lay it on us!