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WOTC just officially announced 3.5 core book reprints in September


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Qadira

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Discuss!

Link


Link first?

Qadira

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Aventhar wrote:

Discuss!

Link

Link to article added... And there is a survey also regarding what other 3.5 material you want to see made available...


I voted. I also told them:

Quote:


If you do Tome of Battle I would like the errata to be fixed. The errata on your website is actually an entirely different book, and it should also be Tome of Battle errata, and not be the errata of a different book.

Reading it again. I wish I could rewrite it, but I think they got the message, and I was pretty nice about it.


Interesting. But I have to wonder how much demand there is for this stuff. 1st Ed. Rulebooks have been out of print for almost 20 years. There are still 3.5 rulebooks on game store shelves. Though mostly splats.


Pathfinder is still not much used in a lot of places, even unheard of. 3.5 is attractive to those who hate 4th edition, and some people like to have a nice and undamaged collection so they will buy it even only to replace damaged ones


I still use some 3.5 stuff, and some of my books are wearing out so I would not mind repurchasing books like the Magic Item Compendium, and an errata'd Tome of Battle.

Silver Crusade

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Good for them, I suppose. Makes sense as they will need a revenue stream until they can get 5E to the shelves, since 4E has dropped in sales so drastically.


I like the fact that they're reprinting books for editions other than 4 or 5. It shows that they might just possibly be listening to their customer base.

Silver Crusade

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I voted for Ghostwalk :-)

Silver Crusade

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Awwww, poor 4E.


This is the best gaming news Ive heard for quite a while. I'll pick up the core set once again and maybe an extra PG on top of that. Its my preferred system, though I will still take a look at 5th edition just to see if I like it better.

Osirion

In our neck of the woods 3.5 player guides new are rare as hens teeth. Heard rumors hat wotc Australia dumped all 3.5 books they did not sell. Physically dumped into the tip.


Voted.

Aside from the three core rulebooks, I'd pick the three compendiums and the additional Monster Manuals.

Andoran

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Hopefully these will make it over the pond and I can pick up a copy of the core rules including errata.

I didn't indicate I was interested in any of the other books being reprinted as I have all the ones I want (though from the sounds of it ToB could do with an errata updated version perhaps - I have the book but haven't read it yet).

In my comments I did say that the best way to celebrate 3.5 would be to start selling the PDFs again (I also suggested they should do the same with 4e PDFs as I also play that edition).

Qadira

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DigitalMage wrote:

Hopefully these will make it over the pond and I can pick up a copy of the core rules including errata.

I didn't indicate I was interested in any of the other books being reprinted as I have all the ones I want (though from the sounds of it ToB could do with an errata updated version perhaps - I have the book but haven't read it yet).

In my comments I did say that the best way to celebrate 3.5 would be to start selling the PDFs again (I also suggested they should do the same with 4e PDFs as I also play that edition).

I also advised that they should start selling PDFs again - of ALL editions. The loss of PDFs is one of the reasons I'm now primarily a Pathfinder player.

My feeling is that these reprints (and the 1e ones as well) are a way for them to continue bringing in cash while 4e winds down and the design team works on 5e. Its actually a prety good plan IF they don't overestimate the demand and print too many...

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I'm torn.

I mean my 3.x stuff got stolen (sigh) so I'd like to get reprints/corrections of the core 4, but at the same time, I have Pathfinder (and Dreamscarred) so why?

Andoran

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Good, now my players don't have to empty their wallet for a PHB.


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Hey, I think they should schnazz up just two splatbooks

a) Player's Handbook II
b) Dragon Magazine Annual Vol. 1

You remember all those year when WotC was putting out 99% fluff books like Faiths of Eberron (the gods don't meddle around/are abstractions/blah blah), or say, books where 80% was fluff, and the other 20% was things like the, oh what was that base class, you know, the 'do everything' one from Dungeonscape? Or all the crunch there was was really testing out ideas for 4E? (You can see 'marking' in the PHBII, and you can see 4E at-wills in Complete Mage's reserve feats)

Anyway, it turns out, 4E! Ta-da!

And right in the middle of that, Dragon 1 comes out, and man was that book awesome. Crazy polearm goofiness, sorcerer bloodlines, the force missile mage, the article about chi-square dice testing, the 'build your own MC Escher labyrinth', the rich panoply of amalgam, washed and rinsed and pressed together to make a book that didn't have a 'purpose' or 'theme', but just was.

Anyway, that book: my fav, written mostly by, guess who: Paizo dudes. Surprise.

Osirion

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I voted -- for those 3.5 books I missed out on the first time around. (Was going through some hard financial times back then...)


It seems like an odd idea to me. I just don't think there's much of a market.


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ohako wrote:
what was that base class, you know, the 'do everything' one from Dungeonscape?

Factotum.

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Well the XPH of course (again erratted) and I'd love for the Mind's Eye stuff to be printed (and OGL'd) but I'm dreaming.


an updated MMII would be my wish product


It is interesting that they decided to skip 2nd edition and go right to 3.5 instead.

Andoran

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As I understand it, 1e and 2e aren't that different. Maybe they thought reprinting the 1e books was enough.


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but but but 2e is the best e!


Ummm, Dragon magazine annual volume 1 is NOT what you're thinking of. Dragon annual volume 1 is an ancient collection from back in the TSR day. Dragon compendium volume 1, however, fits the bill.

Shadow Lodge

Sissyl wrote:
Dragon compendium volume 1, however, fits the bill.

Yep, this is the one with the bloodline feats (Penumbra Bloodline! Had a sorc with that going for Force Missile Mage, was great fun), FMM and the Osteomancer/Bone Mage, cool polearm feats, two awesome fey templates, some cool monsters...

Shame there was never a Vol. 2.

Anyway I'll be voting on my lunch break. Not sure what all I'll be voting for, but I'll be voting.

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I wonder what WotC would do if they got a bunch of "Print Savage Tide/Age of Worms hardback compilations!" in the comments in their surveys.


Ignore them and hope they will go away?

Andoran

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Cheapy wrote:
but but but 2e is the best e!

There is no best edition. Only the edition you like best.


Great that the 3.5 PHB will be back in print.

Definitely a good thing for my players and myself, as our hardbacks slowly get worn out...

Cheliax

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Matthew Morris wrote:
I wonder what WotC would do if they got a bunch of "Print Savage Tide/Age of Worms hardback compilations!" in the comments in their surveys.

If they give in, it might well be the first time in years (2005, IIRC) that I buy again from WotC.


hogarth wrote:
It seems like an odd idea to me. I just don't think there's much of a market.

there very much is, especially because non-US/english nations barely get RPG books, either translated or imported ones, and original is always better than translated ones

Andoran

If you really want 3.0 or 3.5 material just go to your local Half Price Books. Cheap prices and they tend to have a good selection, from time to time.


Hurrah! Can't wait to get new books.


Matthew Morris wrote:
I wonder what WotC would do if they got a bunch of "Print Savage Tide/Age of Worms hardback compilations!" in the comments in their surveys.

This was in my comments for them along with a deluxe Red Hand of Doom.

Shadow Lodge

And voted.


TriOmegaZero wrote:
Cheapy wrote:
but but but 2e is the best e!
There is no best edition. Only the edition you like best.

But I AM the best, ergo, the edition I like best must be the best. ;D

Andoran

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I told them that they should release a book with a lot of prominent Product Identity updated to Pathfinder Rules. So it would have a chapter of Monsters, and a bunch of sections to make my 3.5 Campaign Settings into Pathfinder settings (I know, I could do all of this myself). And a book with the 'Best of Prestige Classes' also updated to Pathfinder edition. I'm not trying to troll, but seriously other than the Player's Handbook, those would be the only WotC 3.5-ish books I would buy.


So does this have any effect on 3PP that were forced to stop publishing 3.5 material and pulp remaining stock in order to publish 4E material? I wonder if this reversal of published status of 3.5 can lead to individual or class action lawsuits from 3PP. I'm sure there are a few 3PP that would have loved to continue creating and publishing 3.5 materials if they were allowed to alongside (or in spite of) 4E.


The later 4e license allowed people to do just that. The original 4e license did not, but it did not require companies to pulp the material they already had in stock.

So, no there is not going to be any class action lawsuit.


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The actual reason for this poll is as follows:

Who loved 3.5? The folks who became Pathfinder Players.

How do we win back all those dollars that went to Paizo?

Give them what they loved about 3.5.

If we can learn what they loved, they'll buy it from us instead of Lisa can company.

We'll destroy Paizo by BECOMING PAIZO.


There is quite a number of 3.5 players that didn't moved to PF (or like my party play PF but play 3.5 also - I GM PF, one of the players GM's 3.5).


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Jeffery Keown 232 wrote:

The actual reason for this poll is as follows:

Who loved 3.5? The folks who became Pathfinder Players.

How do we win back all those dollars that went to Paizo?

Give them what they loved about 3.5.

If we can learn what they loved, they'll buy it from us instead of Lisa can company.

We'll destroy Paizo by BECOMING PAIZO.

I think that the only people who they will "win" are the 3.5 purists. People who cant stand Pathfinder about as much as they cant stand 4E.

But Pathfinder players? I dont think that this re-release is fooling anyone. I still have most of my 3.5 books in great condition and was considering putting them up on Ebay or selling them here. I have most of them in PDF form anyway and the honest truth is that I need to make room for more Pathfinder stuff. That's not even me being a shill> I'm subscribed to both the RPG lines and the AP lines from the beginning and have no intentions of unsubscibing just yet and my Pathfinder shelf has just filled up.

Now I can get rid of all my Champions and GURPS 3rd edition stuff or I can get rid of my 3.5 stuff. Decisions...decisions...

Shadow Lodge

pres man wrote:
TriOmegaZero wrote:
Cheapy wrote:
but but but 2e is the best e!
There is no best edition. Only the edition you like best.
But I AM the best, ergo, the edition I like best must be the best. ;D

Chuck Norris. Your argument is invalid.

Andoran

Matthew Morris wrote:
Well the XPH of course (again erratted) and I'd love for the Mind's Eye stuff to be printed (and OGL'd) but I'm dreaming.

Meh. I'd rather they didn't reprint the XPH. 3.5 and Pathfinder aren't that different; maybe with no reprinted XPH, more 3.5 players will finally pick up the Dreamscarred Pathfinder books?

Andoran

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TOZ wrote:
pres man wrote:
TriOmegaZero wrote:
Cheapy wrote:
but but but 2e is the best e!
There is no best edition. Only the edition you like best.
But I AM the best, ergo, the edition I like best must be the best. ;D
Chuck Norris. Your argument is invalid.

Bruce Lee. My argument wears a snazzy yellow jumpsuit and beats up your argument.

Andoran

Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Subscriber

It is slightly weird. I would have gone for 2e as PF has the 3.5 market a little sewn-up. Even with errata 3.5e is still PF without the 'fixes' to the d20 system. I would be tempted only for the included errata and then only for playing things like Expedition to Castle Ravenloft and the other 3.5e re-release hardbound 'old school' mega-modules. PF characters tend to be over powered and I'm too lazy to the convert the monsters/encounters for PF rules. Then again with all the PF Bestiaries out may be that isn't so tricky these days?

I still WANT to see a D&D Rules Cyclopedia come out again.

S.

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