The Redeemer paladin is fantastic. I'm sort of inclined to make it a general-availability archetype in my games rather than race-specific, though.
Yeah, it works as originally suggested for a number of races out of the box, like tieflings. But really someone from any race could qualify for it provided they have the empathy.
The Redeemer paladin is fantastic. I'm sort of inclined to make it a general-availability archetype in my games rather than race-specific, though.
yesh, some seem very restrictive while could easily work as a standard archetype, not seeing why they would have to be racials
Anyway, I am pretty sure we will now start to get dozens of race-specific archetypes, after the first ones came out there are too many possibilities (basically, atleast one archetype per race per class)
The Redeemer paladin is fantastic. I'm sort of inclined to make it a general-availability archetype in my games rather than race-specific, though.
Yeah, it works as originally suggested for a number of races out of the box, like tieflings. But really someone from any race could qualify for it provided they have the empathy.
Monstrous Rapport is the only part that makes it feel like a racial archetype to me - if you expanded it to include criminals and outcasts, this could just as easily be a standard archetype for paladins of Sarenrae.
We just started a new campaign where I am playing one...it is just first level so the first game was kinda rough (especially since we were missing half our group) but I think she is going to be really cool, especially come level 3 when I can use Waterstrike.
Outside of the water--bender--I mean singer (that 5th level ability looks amazing), I like the Half-Orc Hateful Ranger. That one seems quite powerful to me for killing things, especially with a helpful DM to let you know some favored enemies. I also really like the gnome alchemist saboteur. It seems awesome to me as well in a campaign with a lot of sneakity-sneak-sneak (like a PF version of a Shadowrun campaign). I can see that one as being allowed to all races.
Skaven Poison Wind Globadie... oh hai Games Workshop lawyers, I mean, Ratfolk Plague Bringer.
Eh, Games Workshop doesn't really have any place complaining about anyone taking inspiration from them considering how they've been ripping off Blizzard for over a decade now.
Eh, Games Workshop doesn't really have any place complaining about anyone taking inspiration from them considering how they've been ripping off Blizzard for over a decade now.
Definitely the redeemer. A paladin is required to have more at their disposal than bashing things with sharp pointy metal and its nice that they get a class with that option
Skaven Poison Wind Globadie... oh hai Games Workshop lawyers, I mean, Ratfolk Plague Bringer.
Eh, Games Workshop doesn't really have any place complaining about anyone taking inspiration from them considering how they've been ripping off Blizzard for over a decade now.
sets stopwatch :7
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you're kidding right? you realize that games workshop's stuff predates any of blizzard's stuff by a good decade or more, right?
you're kidding right? you realize that games workshop's stuff predates any of blizzard's stuff by a good decade or more, right?
checks stopwatch
2h14m followed by 2h42m!
it was a joking ironic reference to the rather zealous elements of GW's fanbase that goes on about anything even remotely seeming to take any inspiration or just having coinciidental similarities to GW material.
Getting back on topic, I'm rather of a fan of the Underfoot Adept. You trade away Stunning Fist for the ability to ability to eventually trip as if you were gargantuan. Tripmonkeys rejoice!
Skaven Poison Wind Globadie... oh hai Games Workshop lawyers, I mean, Ratfolk Plague Bringer.
Eh, Games Workshop doesn't really have any place complaining about anyone taking inspiration from them considering how they've been ripping off Blizzard for over a decade now.
you're kidding right? you realize that games workshop's stuff predates any of blizzard's stuff by a good decade or more, right?
checks stopwatch
2h14m followed by 2h42m!
it was a joking ironic reference to the rather zealous elements of GW's fanbase that goes on about anything even remotely seeming to take any inspiration or just having coinciidental similarities to GW material.
ah (grins) You got me. I'm not one of those, It just bugs me when WoW-heads make those claims from positions of ignorance. the thing is, just about everything out there has been 'stolen' from a previous generation, it's completely unavoidable.
but yes, my fav of them has got to be either the sylph wizard, spontaneous divinations, or the cavern sniper, b/c i like archers.
I love the Wild Caller for the half-elf summoner. Combine that archetype, the favored class bonus from APG (reproduced in this book), and taking the Extra Evolution feat at every legal opportunity, this character type can pick up 14 extra evolution points for his eidolon, with Energy Attacks being the only forbidden evolution truly missed.
I'm still reading and digesting....but so far the Scarred Witch Doctor (Witch)is my favorite.
Combined with some of the Orc equipment in the Orc section, I'm looking foreword to creating my first Orc character ;)
I love the Wild Caller for the half-elf summoner. Combine that archetype, the favored class bonus from APG (reproduced in this book), and taking the Extra Evolution feat at every legal opportunity, this character type can pick up 14 extra evolution points for his eidolon, with Energy Attacks being the only forbidden evolution truly missed.
Mmmm, don't you love the smell of overpowered in the morning?
I like the idea of the Imperious bloodline if I could do a particular character over (the setting was in the Dark Ages, and he went around claiming to be descended from emperors, so I chose the Destined bloodline at the time). The only issue is, I'm not really sure if you could roleplay it in a way that makes your character NOT an pompous jerk. Not that that's an issue for the aforementioned character, considering it fits him BECAUSE he's a pompous jerk, but, y'know, for decent characters it might be something to think about
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