Well, I do like me some sodomy, but I'm straight thanks.
Do they actually have sodomy cards?I had a blank index card on my desk that I lifted up immediately prior to posting.
But sodomy cards are the best idea, ever. I would use one as ID when I go to buy pseudoephedrine for the decanter of endless snot lodged deep in my sinuses. Hand it over to the nice lady behind the counter with a great big grin, waggle the eyebrows. What could do wrong?
Mmmmm, sodomy....*drifts off into daydreams* oh wait, what was being talked about again? It was God or Marxism or something right? Sorry, I'm back now.
I find you're premise hard to believe since we keep falling in education ranking year after year when compared to other industialized nations.
Our current system has gone from prosperity to being on the verge of insolvency. Take a look at what is happening in Europe.
Back to the point. I wish posters on these boards would just say they are Marxists. It would be so much easier to just ignore their rants against religion, capitalism, family, America, western civilizaton in general.
Whats up with you're insane comment? Putting me in the same sentence as a mass murderer? I guess I expected better behavior.
Back to the point. I wish posters on these boards would just say they are Marxists. It would be so much easier to just ignore their rants against religion, capitalism, family, America, western civilizaton in general.
I would, but thou shall not lie...
I'm not talking about the education system, I'm talking about the overall level of cultural and sociopolitical awareness amongst the populace. We have learned. The game has changed and people are starting to get it. If you want to discuss why the education system is in the state it's in, I think that's for a different thread.
Our system has gone from prosperity to whatever it has become because we're running out of the resources on which our economy is predicated.
My comment was only as insane as yours. You come into a thread and accuse us of being "cultural marxists", a term most commonly used by white supremist hate groups as a rallying cry against.
In the same breath you say "gee, I wish you would just be honest and say you're something I don't like, so I lump you together and ignore you" and then ask why in the world anyone would associate your rants with hate groups.
Seriously now.
Seriously.
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I find you're premise hard to believe since we keep falling in education ranking year after year when compared to other industialized nations.
But what does that have to do with anti-religion, anti-family, or anti-capitalism? (And by the way, the US has never been much more than average in international education comparisons, which are also very easy to game. If you want a real cause for humiliation, look at opinion polling on adults about evolution. There's an international education comparison for you.)
Our current system has gone from prosperity to being on the verge of insolvency. Take a look at what is happening in Europe.
An ill-advised monetary union pushed ahead over the protests of virtually every qualified economist falling apart because of a central bank ideologically committed to not acting as a central bank? What does this have to do with anti-religion, anti-family, or anti-capitalism?
I am proceeding with the understanding that you think these words actually mean something and they're not just generic swear words you toss out. If I'm wrong about that, let me know.
Back to the point. I wish posters on these boards would just say they are Marxists. It would be so much easier to just ignore their rants against religion, capitalism, family, America, western civilizaton in general.
As I am not a Marxist, I cannot honestly say that I am one. I suspect that's true for most of the people on the boards. Except Doodlebug.
But as I said, I am quite in favor of families. I'm quite content with the usual mixed economy capitalism too. Maybe I want it a bit more regulated or want more services socialized, but not all of them by any means.
Against America? What does that even mean? Do you think we want to outlaw the word? Rename the continent? (I admit, Samnell's House of Sodomy does have a nice ring to it...)
Western civilization? All for it. In fact, I want quite a bit more of it than we have right now. Gimme some more Enlightenment humanism! Social democracy! Bring it, baby.
So after all of this, all I can get is that you're bent out of shape because we fail to perform what you consider adequate osculations of the rump of religion. And you think this is the downfall of western civilization.
Which makes you sound like a crazed nutbag. Perhaps I have misunderstood?
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Aretas--
I'm a Lieutenant Colonel in the US Army, on active status. I've been at this for 17 years.
Trust me when I tell you I am not a Marxist of any stripe.
Trust me when I tell you I actually know what a 'cultural Marxist' is, and none of the posters you're pushing so hard have written or intimated anything remotely close to it.
I'm not talking about the education system, I'm talking about the overall level of cultural and sociopolitical awareness amongst the populace. We have learned. The game has changed and people are starting to get it. If you want to discuss why the education system is in the state it's in, I think that's for a different thread.
Our system has gone from prosperity to whatever it has become because we're running out of the resources on which our economy is predicated.
My comment was only as insane as yours. You come into a thread and accuse us of being "cultural marxists", a term most commonly used by white supremist hate groups as a rallying cry against.
In the same breath you say "gee, I wish you would just be honest and say you're something I don't like, so I lump you together and ignore you" and then ask why in the world anyone would associate your rants with hate groups.
Seriously now.
Seriously.Seriously now! Yes the game has changed and the 2010 elections should tell you its coming from the right. Folks are "getting" it.
Cultural marxism is a rallying cry for white supremacist hate groups? WTF is that!
Just like the Obama campaign slogan FORWARD is a rallying cry of European Marxism and Socialism right? Get real.I did not accuse everyone of being a cultural marxist. I asked who. I did not make a blanket statement implying everyone who is critical of the topics discussed is. Get it straight. You're comment was insane, implying people on the right are with Anders?!?!? SERIOUSLY irresponsible.
This reminds me that you only like to view facts in a way that supports your preconceived notions.
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Ok, when an internet chatroom full of relatively enlightened, educated, and informed individuals (not to toot my own horn. well maybe a little) has no idea what the crap you're talking about, perhaps you should explain when you're asked politely and repeatedly to do so.
That sounds fun, what's the URL? :)
"Cultural Marxism" is watered-down namby-pamby New Left shiznit.
Gimme the straight stuff!
Ok, when an internet chatroom full of relatively enlightened, educated, and informed individuals (not to toot my own horn. well maybe a little) has no idea what the crap you're talking about, perhaps you should explain when you're asked politely and repeatedly to do so.He must have learned something (We beat the odds!) from the persecution flap he started a while back.I'm starting to believe you guys sit around in the same dank basement validating each other's world views. Very interesting.
(meatrace & samnell)
First, I'm hurt that you left me out! Second, I wish I had a basement. Those things are expensive (at least here in AZ). Finally, ad hominem...but you knew that.
Yeah you have misunderstood a lot. Not only in this conversation but in life.
That is so very deep. In fact, you are so far beyond our comprehension that it would probably be best for everyone if you didn't strain our feeble intellects any more.
Please?
Yeah. I am validating their worldview too. And basement party would rock too. Still, it is better with different viewpoints, so I think Aretas is quite welcome to strain my feeble intellect.
Alright, you got me Aretas. I’ll admit it.
I am a Cultural Marxist.
Unfortunately my Christian school was burned down by my fellow rabidly anti-capitalist, anti-family, atheists so I never got to find out what exactly that means.
It’s all good though, I just got a new TV and it gets Fox News, maybe they can tell me what my ideology involves.
Dont you feel any shame? You are being insulting by trying to be funny and witty and at the same time showing how ignorant you are.
Everything I learned about marxism I learned at a public high school from my social studies teacher.
About Fox, yeah chances are you are watching it since its ratings are beating the crap out of all the other wacky left so called news channels.
Yeah. I am validating their worldview too. And basement party would rock too. Still, it is better with different viewpoints, so I think Aretas is quite welcome to strain my feeble intellect.
Different world views are welcome. Unfortunately, that's not all that is being offered...
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Yes, because advertiser ratings determine quality of journalism.
Here's a fun thought, why don't you look up what ratings are?
If you want Citizen Aretas to go away, then stop baiting him.
Personally, I like having him around, so I'll keep at it.
EDIT: Oh, he's back! Hee hee!
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Yes, because advertiser ratings determine quality of journalism.
Well, at least there fox is being consistant, since its the hand of the market! Determining reality like never before.
Aretas, is this what you mean by cultural marxism?
If ratings determine truth, then the only real truth is a baby piglet overcoming fear to descend a staircase in search of oatmeal.
If you want Citizen Aretas to go away, then stop baiting him.
Darn, you caught me.
Dont you feel any shame? You are being insulting by trying to be funny and witty and at the same time showing how ingnorant you are.
Everything I learned about marxism I learned at a public high school from my social studies teacher.
About Fox, yeah chances are you are watching it since its ratings are beating the crap out of all the other wacky left so called news channels.
Where to begin? I know! How about some trademark liberal elitism?
Regarding your public high school:
1. It was funded by taxes...oh noes!
2. Maybe you should have tried college.
3. Some of the time you spent in Social Studies may have been better spent in English. Just saying'.
See? I can play that game too.
I am British. This means that, for someone who considers the Democrats socialist, I am so far past communism the light from communism will take decades to reach me. Or pretty mainstream liberal in the UK, as it's also known.
Considering the Democrats to be Socialist is so detached from reality I pretty much stop listening once someone admits to that...
Dont you feel any shame? You are being insulting by trying to be funny and witty and at the same time showing how ingnorant you are.
Everything I learned about marxism I learned at a public high school from my social studies teacher.
About Fox, yeah chances are you are watching it since its ratings are beating the crap out of all the other wacky left so called news channels.
Where to begin? I know! How about some trademark liberal elitism? Regarding your public high school:
1. It was funded by taxes...oh noes!
2. Maybe you should have tried college.
3. Some of the time you spent in Social Studies may have been better spent in English. Just saying'.See? I can play that game too.
You are "just saying" but not saying anything important. Whats wrong with you?
1. Funded by tax dollars? So what? What is you're point? My 8 yrs old niece says "oh noes" whats that all about?
2. I finished college. What is you're point with that comment?
3. What is you're point with this comment? My english is bad? How does this point and all the others have any impact on ANYTHING?
You are "just saying" but not saying anything important. Whats wrong with you?
1. Funded by tax dollars? So what? What is you're point? My 8 yrs old niece says "oh noes" whats that all about?
2. I finished college. What is you're point with that comment?
3. What is you're point with this comment? My english is bad? How does this point and all the others have any impact on ANYTHING?
What are you playing at?
Dont you feel any shame? You are being insulting by trying to be funny and witty and at the same time showing how ingnorant you are.
Everything I learned about marxism I learned at a public high school from my social studies teacher.
About Fox, yeah chances are you are watching it since its ratings are beating the crap out of all the other wacky left so called news channels.
Naw, no shame really. As I am sure you have discovered by now I am quite the philistine.
On another note, how did I know that you support Fox News? I just had a feeling…call it faith I guess.
Also, you misspelled ignorant. (edit: not to nit pick, I just thought it was funny given what you were saying.)
We aren't all Marxists just because the "proofs" offered at the beginning of this thread are easily invalidated. I'm sure that, should I list my political ideals (separation of church and state, federal funding for single payer social welfare, etc), you'd call me a Cultural Marxist, but Cultural Marxist seems to be a nonsense phrase which was invented to lump all the people you don't like in with the political Marxists.
It's also interesting to me that (granted I've only done about ten minutes of google research) it's the people shouting "Cultural Marxism!" who would support a burn-the-books cultural revolution al a Chairman Mao.
I would like to state for the record, that it was I who first compared Citizen Aretas to Anders Brevik.
I don't want Citizen Meatrace to get the credit for my trolling.
The question was what are the politics of the atheists on the boards?
Well, people of any group are individuals, and atheists even more than most because atheists don't share a common belief.
I'm a sanish tree hugger that wants to set up a system of no use areas (parks) interlinked by surrounding areas of increasingly heavy use (forestry---->Agriculture----> suburbs)
I agree with the left that taxes should be progressive, not regressive. That people have freedom of speech, and that freedom includes the all important ability to disagree with your government. There are many things that either work better or can only work with one person running the show.
I agree with the right that the government shouldn't be regulating political correctness or clamping down on 'hate speech'. I dislike federal hate crime laws that all too often get used for double jeopardy and ignore the fact that beating people up is already illegal.
I vote with the left because the right has lost all of its redeeming features: there's no Ron Paul in it anymore. They tout hard work, but all their policies do is give tax breaks to the rich. They tout the free market, but invade other countries when they won't sell us our resources at the price we want. Trying to set up Christianity as a defacto established religion doesn't help either.
If you're asking if i am
We are, in Marx's terms, "an ensemble of social relations" and we live our lives at the core of the intersection of a number of unequal social relations based on hierarchically interrelated structures which, together, define the historical specificity of the capitalist modes of production and reproduction and underlay their observable manifestations.
-.... then I have no idea because while every single word there makes sense they don't mean anything to me the way they're arranged.
Btw, guys, "Cultural Marxist" refers to the celebrity New Left Marxist academics of the 60s--guys with mind-bogglingly unreadable books like Herbert Marcuse and Theodor Adorno.
They were big into Antonio Gramsci and Marx's Economic and Philosophic Manuscripts of 1844 which weren't published until the 30s or so.
A lot of these guys were "liberal Stalinists" (a phrase that probably only makes sense to a Trotskyist) who were run out of Austria after the Anschluss.
If you're asking if i amWe are, in Marx's terms, "an ensemble of social relations" and we live our lives at the core of the intersection of a number of unequal social relations based on hierarchically interrelated structures which, together, define the historical specificity of the capitalist modes of production and reproduction and underlay their observable manifestations.
-.... then I have no idea because while every single word there makes sense they don't mean anything to me the way they're arranged.
Oooh, where'd you get that? That looks sufficiently mind-boggling.
Hey Comrade,
So a social marxist advocates or believes what exactly?
edit: its from wiki's article on cultural marxism, linkified above
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Oooh, where'd you get that? That looks sufficiently mind-boggling.
If you're asking if i amWe are, in Marx's terms, "an ensemble of social relations" and we live our lives at the core of the intersection of a number of unequal social relations based on hierarchically interrelated structures which, together, define the historical specificity of the capitalist modes of production and reproduction and underlay their observable manifestations.
-.... then I have no idea because while every single word there makes sense they don't mean anything to me the way they're arranged.
It's from the Wiki page on cultural marxism BNW linked to earlier.
It's from the Wiki page on cultural marxism BNW linked to earlier.Oooh, where'd you get that? That looks sufficiently mind-boggling.
If you're asking if i amWe are, in Marx's terms, "an ensemble of social relations" and we live our lives at the core of the intersection of a number of unequal social relations based on hierarchically interrelated structures which, together, define the historical specificity of the capitalist modes of production and reproduction and underlay their observable manifestations.
-.... then I have no idea because while every single word there makes sense they don't mean anything to me the way they're arranged.
Oh, I missed that. Frankfurt, not Austria, huh? Damn, I feel like a fool.