It seems obvious that spear training does not replace anything, it still has weapon training, it also has weapon training but spear training restricts it's use and improves on it.
The increases to spear training are level related and gloves of dueling increases weapon training as usual with +2, the increase for spear training is level related and the gloves do nothing to effective level so it will not be enhanced further, but they work just as fine as for a vanilla fighter.
The archetype says the Dragoon must select weapon training with the Spear group. Then later, Weapon Training 2, 3, and 4 are explicitly replaced. If an ability is replaced by an archetype, every entry states "This ability replaces ...". If that language isn't there for Weapon Training 1 and the ability says the Dragoon "must select weapon training with the Spear group", it seems clear to me that Spear Training is Weapon Training, just a specific version of it.
I hit the FAQ and noticed it says: Answered in the FAQ.
Although I can't find the answer in the FAQ.
This is at least the third thread in the past few weeks where they said it was answered but no one can find the supposed FAQ. Not sure what's up. May need to make a new thread to ask again now.
Nicos, do you mean this response? Because I don't see how that's relevant to this question.
I could not find it? it would be nice if they included a link to answered faqs
http://paizo.com/people/PathfinderDesignTeam/posts
here is the Faq teams post I don't see it on there
The post below by SKR yesterday in this thread.
"Hey this other thread was marked as answered, what's up with that?" is not an efficient way to get these things resolved. If you can't find the answer to the question, start a new thread and FAQ-flag it.
I guess someone have to start all over again. I'm not sure a new post or a new thread is the best option.
Official Rules Response
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FAQ: http://paizo.com/paizo/faq/v5748nruor1fm#v5748eaic9qto
Archetype: If an archetype replaces a class ability with a more specific version of that ability (or one that works similarly to the replaced ability), does the archetype's ability count as the original ability for the purpose of rules that improve the original ability?
It depends on how the archetype's ability is worded. If the archetype ability says it works like the standard ability, it counts as that ability. If the archetype's ability requires you to make a specific choice for the standard ability, it counts as that ability. Otherwise, the archetype ability doesn't count as the standard ability. (It doesn't matter if the archetype's ability name is different than the standard class ability it is replacing; it is the description and game mechanics of the archetype ability that matter.)
Example: The dragoon (fighter) archetype (Ultimate Combat) has an ability called "spear training," which requires the dragoon to select "spears" as his weapon training group, and refers to his weapon training bonus (even though this bonus follows a slightly different progression than standard weapon training). Therefore, this ability counts as weapon training for abilities that improve weapon training, such as gloves of dueling (Advanced Player's Guide), which increase the wearer's weapon training bonus.
Example: The archer (fighter) archetype gets several abilities (such as "expert archer") which replace weapon training and do not otherwise refer to the weapon training ability. Therefore, this ability does not count as weapon training for abilities that improve weapon training (such as gloves of dueling). This is the case even for the "expert archer" ability which has a bonus that improves every 4 fighter levels, exactly like weapon training.
That's what I figured it would be. So Archer archetype is officially worse than vanilla fighter at shooting a bow. Disappointing, but hardly unexpected. At least Dragoon is clear now.