Spending prestige


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I've searched exhaustively for the answer to this question and can not find the appropriate answer. I'm new to the forums here so if I ask or post to the wrong place, please let me know kindly :)

Here we go...

In pathfinder society, can I use my prestige points to buy magic items worth more then the list of 750gp on the chart? I read in the field guide how 1 pp = approximately 375 gold or something like that, but then it said something about PP isn't normally spent on items, it was vague to me! So could I spend 40 PP to buy an awesome magic item?

The wording in the field guide and the guide seem to be kind of vague on the whole idea. I'm mostly asking because some of the guys I play with told me I could spend a bunch of PP for an awesome item and I haven't spent any and I'm almost level 10, so I have 40+ PP.

Once again sorry if this question has been asked a bunch already (I scrolled through my search for almost an hour before giving up), also I wasn't sure if I should post this here since it's a rules question or under the general society board.

Thanks :)

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There is a pathfinder society forum. This thread will probably be moved there. Buckle up!

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In pathfinder society, can I use my prestige points to buy magic items worth more then the list of 750gp on the chart?

Usually no. You cannot for example save up 7 or 8 prestige points to get a Great sword +1


BigNorseWolf wrote:

There is a pathfinder society forum. This thread will probably be moved there. Buckle up!

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In pathfinder society, can I use my prestige points to buy magic items worth more then the list of 750gp on the chart?

Usually no. You cannot for example save up 7 or 8 prestige points to get a Great sword +1

TY Norse. Just to clarify, what to you mean by normally? Also, what should I point to specifically when my friends ask about it or if I need to clarify to them that they can't do that?

If you don't mind, also thanks a ton for the quick response! Also thanks for the heads up, I just wasn't 100% on which one to post to.

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nicholsml wrote:
TY Norse. Just to clarify, what to you mean by normally?

There's a few things like the silver crusades ability to spend 2 pp to get a Shining wayfinder from their faction.

See the field guide for some things you can spend your prestige points on. I would save 16 just in case you need a raise dead, with the rest you can go nuts.

Grand Lodge 4/5

The award (thing you can purchase) is "Free purchase up to 750 gp - 2 PA", so for 2 PA, you get one item that is worth up to 750 gp. The table doesn't offer an option to spend more than 2 PA. This item is worth 0 gp if sold, so you can't ask for a 750 gp gem and trade it in for gold to make a larger purchase.


Moved thread.

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BigNorseWolf wrote:
I would save 16 just in case you need a raise dead, with the rest you can go nuts.

Don't forget the 2x Restoration

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CRobledo wrote:
BigNorseWolf wrote:
I would save 16 just in case you need a raise dead, with the rest you can go nuts.
Don't forget the 2x Restoration

Those are 4 PP apiece, because it is to remove permanent negative levels.

Also note that if you get raised during a scenario, you can only remove one negative level during the scenario in most cases, since you can only get one Restoration per week. The other one can be obtained between scenarios, and if you get raised at the end, there is no issue gettign both done before your next scenario, since there is indefinite time between scenarios...

Scarab Sages

Did I miss something in the recent edition of the PFD Guide? I had thought previously (and perhaps erroneously) that PFS didn't apply negative levels for being raised and such?

So, in regards to the thread being on Spending Prestige, how does this affect the Osirion priviledge of getting the title "The Risen" for 8PP? Does this change what can be done to qualify? Can it "only" be raised? Or, would one still get the title if they paid entirely for the resurrection?

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W. Kristoph Nolen wrote:

Did I miss something in the recent edition of the PFD Guide? I had thought previously (and perhaps erroneously) that PFS didn't apply negative levels for being raised and such?

So, in regards to the thread being on Spending Prestige, how does this affect the Osirion priviledge of getting the title "The Risen" for 8PP? Does this change what can be done to qualify? Can it "only" be raised? Or, would one still get the title if they paid entirely for the resurrection?

So it is easy to miss because the change is not called out. They just removed it.

So there is no change to The Risen it just gives you a cheaper way to get raise dead and a nice title through spending PP, but you now have to get rid of the neg levels by spending more PP on 2 restorations, by having it cast on you or spending the money on spell casting service.

Actually the rule was removed before or at the same time as the Pathfinder Society Field Guide came out, so it was never part of it.

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W. Kristoph Nolen wrote:
Did I miss something in the recent edition of the PFD Guide? I had thought previously (and perhaps erroneously) that PFS didn't apply negative levels for being raised and such?

My guess is that would make it so you would never get a Resurrection or True Resurrection which are also available on PFS.

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I believe the guide 4.0 at Gen Con 2011 removed the no negative level thing.

Now you must take care of the raise dead and the two negative levels. The nice thing is, you don't NEED to spend the 8PP or 1,280gp per Resoration (total 2,560gp) right away. Negative levels only give you a -1 on everything. While that is not ideal, it isn't debilitating and you don't need to totally rewrite your character (you don't actually lose levels). So as you gain more cash (usually the next scenario) you can then use that to get rid of the negative levels.

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Andrew Christian wrote:
Now you must take care of the raise dead and the two negative levels. The nice thing is, you don't NEED to spend the 8PP or 1,280gp per Resoration (total 2,560gp) right away. Negative levels only give you a -1 on everything. While that is not ideal, it isn't debilitating and you don't need to totally rewrite your character (you don't actually lose levels). So as you gain more cash (usually the next scenario) you can then use that to get rid of the negative levels.

Or you never know, the next scenario you may have an appropriate level cleric in the party with you.

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CRobledo wrote:
Or you never know, the next scenario you may have an appropriate level cleric in the party with you.

Saving you 280 GP for the casting, you still need the 1,000 gp diamond. Or maybe the cleric will be REALLY nice and just use his own GP on his own diamond....

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280gp is like... 10 scrolls of expeditious retreat, Kyle!

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CRobledo wrote:
280gp is like... 10 scrolls of expeditious retreat, Kyle!

11 actually with 5 gp left over...

(sorry, I'll go back to my corner now)


Can I use 2 prestige points to buy masterwork leaf armour?

Also, if you sell items in pfs it's always for half price correct? Um can you even sell items? I know you can't with other pcs.

Any help is appreciated. Thanks. :)

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You can't sell items to PCs - that falls under the "no exchange of wealth" rules.

You can sell any item you paid money for; you get half of what you paid (regardless of if you got a discount and what the standard price is; this prevents unintended wealth generation).

Leaf Armor (which is always masterwork) costs 500gp, so yes, you could spend 2pp for it. Note that since you aren't paying money, you could not later sell it.

Silver Crusade 2/5

Yes, if the cost of the leaf armor is less than 750 gold pieces. A common purchase for some is a masterwork composite longbow made from darkwood and rated for STR +3.

Items bought with prestige have a resale value of 0 gold pieces. Items purchased normally for cash can be resold for one-half value.

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Unless something has changed that I'm not aware of, buying armor via prestige means that you always sell it for 0 gp, even if you later spend gold to upgrade it.

So you buy leaf armor for 2pp and then later spend 1000 gp to make it +1, it still sells for 0 gp, not 500 gp.


I do intend to upgrade it to +1 and better. :)

Now I realise that it looks like I meant selling my leaf armour. No I know prestige point bought items can only sell for 0 gp. I was meaning for selling other stuff.

Thanks. Much appreciated. :)

Silver Crusade 4/5 *** Venture-Lieutenant, Washington—Spokane

The chart on page 21 of the guide specifies items up to 150 can be purchased for 1 PP and Items up to 750 for 2 PP. PP can be used for services on the chart or things that specify you can use PP such as vanities.


I saw that I just wanted to be 100% sure that leaf armour was legal for pp purchases. Thanks. :)

Grand Lodge 4/5 **** Venture-Captain, California—Sacramento

Followup to the raise dead.

You should save 21 PP, not 16. You need 5 for the body recovery if the whole table wipes.

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Lemartes wrote:

I do intend to upgrade it to +1 and better. :)

Now I realise that it looks like I meant selling my leaf armour. No I know prestige point bought items can only sell for 0 gp. I was meaning for selling other stuff.

Thanks. Much appreciated. :)

What I was trying to warn you of is that buying armor or weapons with prestige is risky.

Let's say you spend that 2pp for leaf armor then sink 9000gp into enchantments. Then, next year a new splatbook comes out with cool new armor or a new special material that is PFS legal that fits your character. If you switch armor, you get nothing back for your old armor because you bought the base armor with prestige. It always has a resale value of zero, no matter how much extra you put into it later.

But if you instead bought the original armor with gold, you could at least get back 4750gp of your original 9500gp investment.


I'm aware of that, thanks for the warning though. :)

I suspect I will probably not need any other type of armour for this character just looking for straight AC with no acp.

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Is there limit to how much prestige I can spend at a time? Can I burn 10 PP to buy five 750 gp wands all at once?

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Winks Blastum wrote:
Is there limit to how much prestige I can spend at a time? Can I burn 10 PP to buy five 750 gp wands all at once?

I believe that the text allows for prestige to be used to purchase an item once per session, so no to purchasing multiple wands at once.

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Pathfinder Society Roleplaying Guild Guide v8.0 page 21 wrote:
3 Once per session, you can acquire any single item of this cost or less from your faction by spending the appropriate number of Prestige Points. Items purchased this way are worth 0 gp and cannot be sold.

Beneath the table where Prestige Point costs are listed.

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dwayne germaine wrote:
Winks Blastum wrote:
Is there limit to how much prestige I can spend at a time? Can I burn 10 PP to buy five 750 gp wands all at once?
I believe that the text allows for prestige to be used to purchase an item once per session, so no to purchasing multiple wands at once.

Correct.


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Michael Hallet wrote:
Lemartes wrote:

I do intend to upgrade it to +1 and better. :)

Now I realise that it looks like I meant selling my leaf armour. No I know prestige point bought items can only sell for 0 gp. I was meaning for selling other stuff.

Thanks. Much appreciated. :)

What I was trying to warn you of is that buying armor or weapons with prestige is risky.

Let's say you spend that 2pp for leaf armor then sink 9000gp into enchantments. Then, next year a new splatbook comes out with cool new armor or a new special material that is PFS legal that fits your character. If you switch armor, you get nothing back for your old armor because you bought the base armor with prestige. It always has a resale value of zero, no matter how much extra you put into it later.

But if you instead bought the original armor with gold, you could at least get back 4750gp of your original 9500gp investment.

I don't think that is true, you would get half of what you paid. 0 gp for the armor but you would still get half for the enchenment.

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Prestige point items are like legacies or curses. PC's can't sell them and just hold onto them to wear at faction functions as someone will ask, "where's that armor we gave you AT YOUR REQUEST 12 chronicles ago?"

yes, I'm being humorous... but the rules say they can't be sold, not that you get 0 gold for selling them <grin>.

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Azouth wrote:
I don't think that is true, you would get half of what you paid. 0 gp for the armor but you would still get half for the enchenment.

Once per session, you can acquire any single item of this cost or less from your faction by spending the appropriate number of Prestige Points. Items purchased this way are worth 0 gp and cannot be sold.

You can't sell it, so you can't recover any gold for it.

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Wish they'd come up with an 'Improved Treasure Map' that would allow 8PP, 10PP, or 12PP expenditures for increasingly pricey items that might otherwise be out of a Pathfinder's Budget...

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Wei Ji the Learner wrote:


Wish they'd come up with an 'Improved Treasure Map' that would allow 8PP, 10PP, or 12PP expenditures for increasingly pricey items that might otherwise be out of a Pathfinder's Budget...

That would make a good boon to allow you to do it once.

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I initially said 'Improved Treasure Map', which probably has a whole bunch of folks scratching their heads.

What I really MEANT was:

'Improved Expedition Manager', perhaps something like 'Advanced Expedition Manager' or the like?

And as a one-off for the gear acquisition, but perhaps a floating permanent bonus that could be cashed in as well might be a nice 'flip' of the methodology of 'Expedition Manager'?

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*sigh*

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