Awakened Trees


Rules Questions

Grand Lodge

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Can cast awaken on dead or damaged trees?
What about wood shaped trees?
Is there a size limitation on the trees you can awaken?
What about ironwood, or a darkwood tree?
What about an object or creature turned into a tree via Polymorph Any Object?

Sczarni

Yes. Yes. No. Yes. Yes(if poly lasts for the 24 hrs you are rubbing down the tree with oil).

Devil's advocate: "An awakened animal can’t serve as an animal companion, familiar, or special mount." - but can an awakened tree???


maouse wrote:


Devil's advocate: "An awakened animal can’t serve as an animal companion, familiar, or special mount." - but can an awakened tree???

A tree cannot be an animal companion, familiar, or special mount, so no. Eventhough plant companion are being introduced, that is based on specific plant creatures, and not normal trese (or awakened ones at that).

@BBT:
- Damages tree, sure. Dead tree? Not so sure. It depends on how to define a tree
- Wood shaped tree, no problem there.
- Size limitations: No.
- Darkwood? Yes (although it does have any mechanical effect, unless you pay for it with CP). Ironwood? Since ironwood isn't trees, but wooden objects affected by a spell, I cannot see it happening. If you have Ironwood trees in your game, then sure.
- Polymorph any object: I would say no. While the spell might in fact change someone into something similar to a tree, the generel polymorph rules specificy that you remain your original type. Not truly being a tree, or animal, you don't qualify for the spell.


1. Awaken just awakens mind, it does not resurrect so even if it may work on dead trees, they are still dead creatures... Totally doable on damaged trees.
2. Doable. However, wood shape has a target of a piece of wood, I'm not really sure if every GM will consider a tree just a piece of wood...
3. No size limitation.
4. Ironwood targets an object, so the tree before the cast of Awaken can be a valid target, but when you awaken that tree it gains the Plant type becoming a creature and thus no valid target for Ironwood. For Darkwood, no problem here. The awakend tree becomes a Animated object and reading the Animate Object specifics you get this:

d20pfsrd wrote:
[...]all animated objects are made of wood or material of equivalent hardness.

5. The subject of a Polymorph subschool spell does not change the type of creature, so no PAO here.


45ur4 wrote:

2. Doable. However, wood shape has a target of a piece of wood, I'm not really sure if every GM will consider a tree just a piece of wood...

I consider a tree to be a big piece of wood.

Grand Lodge

I suppose a big question is: Are trees treated as objects, or creature?


Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Superscriber; Pathfinder Starfinder Roleplaying Game Subscriber

Trees are treated as objects. Awakened trees are treated as living creatures.


Marthian wrote:
45ur4 wrote:

2. Doable. However, wood shape has a target of a piece of wood, I'm not really sure if every GM will consider a tree just a piece of wood...

I consider a tree to be a big piece of wood.

I'd nitpick this if I were the DM.

A "piece" of something is not the same as the whole, living, untreated object.

A piece of a puzzle as opposed to a puzzle, a piece of cake as opposed to the cake, etc..

-S

Sczarni

So I wonder what the Large Darkwood in Falcon's Hollow adventures would do to the town if it were awakened...

Grand Lodge

Is there a way to bring life to a wooden item without awakening it?


blackbloodtroll wrote:
Is there a way to bring life to a wooden item without awakening it?

Animate Object, although the being brought to 'life' is mostly in a mechnical sense.

Similarly constructs made of wood, through the construct creation rules.

Grand Lodge

I was thinking living, as in like a tree. Not animated. I know Eberron had Livewood.


Awakened apple trees as in 'Oz"?


blackbloodtroll wrote:
I was thinking living, as in like a tree. Not animated. I know Eberron had Livewood.

Livewood or Liveoak?

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