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If they're taking the train from Indiana to Philly, that's hundreds of miles of track that has to be rebuilt/maintained, along with refueling stations. They've had 15 years to work on it, so it's not inconceivable.


Being unhappy with a show because you don't find the premise plausible? Better not watch Star Trek, Doctor Who, or--come to think of it--almost any SF show. Unhappy with a show because the characters do dumb things? Welcome to the human race. On the other hand, unhappy with a show because it is too glum, you don't empathize with the characters, the plot meanders? That's just bad storytelling/casting/acting.


I think you'd be surprised with how many ideas from ST:TOS have become reality in the last 45 years.


pres man wrote:
I think you'd be surprised with how many ideas from ST:TOS have become reality in the last 45 years.

Are you kidding? Those tricorders are huge and, going by the name, only measure three things. Spock needs to visit the App store!


QXL99 wrote:
Being unhappy with a show because you don't find the premise plausible? Better not watch Star Trek, Doctor Who, or--come to think of it--almost any SF show.

The importance is making a world believable within its own rules. This means it has to have consistent rules laid down. What you want to create is a world with enough internal consistency and verisimilitude that you can suspend your disbelief.

The problem with Revolution isn't that the premise isn't unbelievable, it's that they don't hold up the rules of the premise consistently, and since the world resembles our own to a great extent, it is only then we apply the rules of our own world and come up short.

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Unhappy with a show because the characters do dumb things? Welcome to the human race. On the other hand, unhappy with a show because it is too glum, you don't empathize with the characters, the plot meanders? That's just bad storytelling/casting/acting.

This is also very true, and will kill a show. Doctor Who sometimes breaks its own rules (hard not to do when you're in your 36th season or thereabouts) and sometimes invites fan rage for it, but the Doctor and his companions are likeable and enjoyable enough you can forgive the occasional error.

Revolution's problem is it does not have consistency, verisimilitude, nor likeable characters.


I'm liking it now.


I'm surprised there isn't all sorts of talk about the science of 'anti-electricity' revealed last Monday...

Qadira

pres man wrote:
DeathQuaker wrote:
Can we frame our commentary in a way that does not insult other people's nationalities, please?
As an American, I can't see how I insulted "other people's" nationalities. ;) I have no problem insulting my own though. Seriously though, the story writers did more insulting than I did. LOL

I laugh in the face of your fallen civilizations...

PS You see that farming scene where the rural folk is growing a few vegetables for personal consumption. Not Enough Food for the number of people growing the food. So they ate the pet dogs...and are likely eating other humans to supplement their lack of meat.

The Map on the wall of the hotel looks a lot like the Map I did of all the secessionist US states.


A highly regarded expert wrote:
I'm liking it now.

Care to elaborate? I did stop watching after episode 4, but I'm curious to know what's improved.

Qadira

I dislike how soft the young characters are, they grew up in that world, a harsh world. it should not be so new to them unless the parents went way too far in sheltering them, thusly handicapping them to deal with reality.


DeathQuaker wrote:
A highly regarded expert wrote:
I'm liking it now.
Care to elaborate? I did stop watching after episode 4, but I'm curious to know what's improved.

I missed this thread somehow. Sorry.

I just think that the flashbacks are filling in bits of the story, and it's somewhat more compelling. I also think the actors are getting settled into their characters more, and the drama is less "naive angst," and getting more into "we have a grim job to do," sorta.

Living like that wouldn't make anyone particularly sheltered, really, but Charlie has moved from a rather blank slate of a little girl to a more serious woman who sees how tough it can be, and rising to the challenge is taxing, but she's becoming stronger.

I never got all the Charlie hate, anyway. I liked her right away, and I like how she's developing.


Also, every time I see the title at the beginning I think of this.


A highly regarded expert wrote:
Also, every time I see the title at the beginning I think of this.

Because I was a late 90s/early 00s anime nerd, when I see it I always think of this because of the line "That's Me! My last evolution, revolution, evolution!!!" at the very end.


DeathQuaker wrote:
A highly regarded expert wrote:
Also, every time I see the title at the beginning I think of this.
Because I was a late 90s/early 00s anime nerd, when I see it I always think of this because of the line "That's Me! My last evolution, revolution, evolution!!!" at the very end.

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO UTENA!!!


I'm still waiting for one of those girls to actually cut the other one in half, or at least mess up her hair.


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This show had me interested, but by episode 4 it was apparant it was just crap. I'm sorry to see it go down like this, cause it showed some promise.

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