paizo.com Recent Posts in How do you measure "Contributing to the Group" in Pathfinder?paizo.com Recent Posts in How do you measure "Contributing to the Group" in Pathfinder?2012-04-27T19:11:30Z2012-04-27T19:11:30ZRe: Forums/Pathfinder First Edition: General Discussion: How do you measure "Contributing to the Group" in Pathfinder?TriOmegaZerohttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2o0q6&page=2?How-do-you-measure-Contributing-to-the-Group#592012-04-29T06:42:47Z2012-04-29T06:42:47Z<p>Oh man, I love quantum reasoning! :D</p>Oh man, I love quantum reasoning! :DTriOmegaZero2012-04-29T06:42:47ZRe: Forums/Pathfinder First Edition: General Discussion: How do you measure "Contributing to the Group" in Pathfinder?Ashielhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2o0q6&page=2?How-do-you-measure-Contributing-to-the-Group#582012-04-29T03:45:47Z2012-04-29T03:45:47Z<p>I'm usually in agreement with TriOmegaZero before he actually says anything at all. It's almost habitually reflexive at this point.</p>I'm usually in agreement with TriOmegaZero before he actually says anything at all. It's almost habitually reflexive at this point.Ashiel2012-04-29T03:45:47ZRe: Forums/Pathfinder First Edition: General Discussion: How do you measure "Contributing to the Group" in Pathfinder?Bob_Loblawhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2o0q6&page=2?How-do-you-measure-Contributing-to-the-Group#572014-05-14T19:10:31Z2012-04-29T03:43:15Z<p>What it means to me is that you are looking to use your character's abilities whenever possible. Anyone expecting the game to provide times for their abilities is probably not contributing the way I want them. Just because your character doesn't have ranks in Diplomacy doesn't mean you can't try to throw some ideas into a conversation. Just because your character doesn't know how to cast a fireball doesn't mean that you can't suggest it to the sorcerer. If you are just there for the XP, you are probably not contributing to the way I would enjoy playing the game.</p>What it means to me is that you are looking to use your character's abilities whenever possible. Anyone expecting the game to provide times for their abilities is probably not contributing the way I want them. Just because your character doesn't have ranks in Diplomacy doesn't mean you can't try to throw some ideas into a conversation. Just because your character doesn't know how to cast a fireball doesn't mean that you can't suggest it to the sorcerer. If you are just there for the XP, you...Bob_Loblaw2012-04-29T03:43:15ZRe: Forums/Pathfinder First Edition: General Discussion: How do you measure "Contributing to the Group" in Pathfinder?Adamantine Dragon (alias of brassbaboon)https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2o0q6&page=2?How-do-you-measure-Contributing-to-the-Group#562012-04-28T23:39:57Z2012-04-28T23:39:57Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Dabbler wrote:</div><blockquote> <div class="messageboard-quotee">45ur4 wrote:</div><blockquote> Lets all recognize that TriOmegaZero's first post is The Answer. </blockquote>I agree with your agreement with his statement. </blockquote><p>I never agree with TOZ on anything.
<p>In this case I will concur though.</p>Dabbler wrote:45ur4 wrote: Lets all recognize that TriOmegaZero's first post is The Answer.
I agree with your agreement with his statement. I never agree with TOZ on anything. In this case I will concur though.Adamantine Dragon (alias of brassbaboon)2012-04-28T23:39:57ZRe: Forums/Pathfinder First Edition: General Discussion: How do you measure "Contributing to the Group" in Pathfinder?Dabblerhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2o0q6&page=2?How-do-you-measure-Contributing-to-the-Group#552012-04-28T20:06:34Z2012-04-28T20:06:34Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">45ur4 wrote:</div><blockquote> Lets all recognize that TriOmegaZero's first post is The Answer. </blockquote><p>I agree with your agreement with his statement.45ur4 wrote:Lets all recognize that TriOmegaZero's first post is The Answer.
I agree with your agreement with his statement.Dabbler2012-04-28T20:06:34ZRe: Forums/Pathfinder First Edition: General Discussion: How do you measure "Contributing to the Group" in Pathfinder?Jal Dorakhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2o0q6&page=2?How-do-you-measure-Contributing-to-the-Group#542012-04-28T20:02:36Z2012-04-28T20:02:36Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">45ur4 wrote:</div><blockquote> Lets all recognize that TriOmegaZero's first post is The Answer. </blockquote><p>The topic is "how do you measure contributing", a binary response isn't really a constructive guideline. It's a good starting point.45ur4 wrote:Lets all recognize that TriOmegaZero's first post is The Answer.
The topic is "how do you measure contributing", a binary response isn't really a constructive guideline. It's a good starting point.Jal Dorak2012-04-28T20:02:36ZRe: Forums/Pathfinder First Edition: General Discussion: How do you measure "Contributing to the Group" in Pathfinder?45ur4https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2o0q6&page=2?How-do-you-measure-Contributing-to-the-Group#532012-04-28T19:42:08Z2012-04-28T19:42:08Z<p>Lets all recognize that TriOmegaZero's first post is The Answer.</p>Lets all recognize that TriOmegaZero's first post is The Answer.45ur42012-04-28T19:42:08ZRe: Forums/Pathfinder First Edition: General Discussion: How do you measure "Contributing to the Group" in Pathfinder?Darkwing Duckhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2o0q6&page=2?How-do-you-measure-Contributing-to-the-Group#522012-04-28T19:27:08Z2012-04-28T19:27:08Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Darkwing Duck wrote:</div><blockquote> <div class="messageboard-quotee">Gnomezrule wrote:</div><blockquote> I have encountered some who view players who "don't pull their weight" a drag on the game. </blockquote>As have I. My point is that I don't call these "wargamers" as I feel that that term should be reserved for tactically minded players (seeing as how that term came from tactical games like Warhammer 40K). </blockquote><p>I didn't call out the part of Gnomezrule's post that I was responding to the way that I should have. This should be more clear.Darkwing Duck wrote:Gnomezrule wrote: I have encountered some who view players who "don't pull their weight" a drag on the game.
As have I. My point is that I don't call these "wargamers" as I feel that that term should be reserved for tactically minded players (seeing as how that term came from tactical games like Warhammer 40K). I didn't call out the part of Gnomezrule's post that I was responding to the way that I should have. This should be more clear.Darkwing Duck2012-04-28T19:27:08ZRe: Forums/Pathfinder First Edition: General Discussion: How do you measure "Contributing to the Group" in Pathfinder?Gnomezrulehttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2o0q6&page=2?How-do-you-measure-Contributing-to-the-Group#512012-04-28T18:26:54Z2012-04-28T18:26:54Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Darkwing Duck wrote:</div><blockquote> <div class="messageboard-quotee">Gnomezrule wrote:</div><blockquote> I have encountered some who see contribution purely tactically and view players who "don't pull their weight" a drag on the game. </blockquote>As have I. My point is that I don't call these "wargamers" as I feel that that term should be reserved for tactically minded players (seeing as how that term came from tactical games like Warhammer 40K). </blockquote><p>Well now we are just debating what to call 'em. I will not use wargamer in this sense in the future.Darkwing Duck wrote:Gnomezrule wrote: I have encountered some who see contribution purely tactically and view players who "don't pull their weight" a drag on the game.
As have I. My point is that I don't call these "wargamers" as I feel that that term should be reserved for tactically minded players (seeing as how that term came from tactical games like Warhammer 40K). Well now we are just debating what to call 'em. I will not use wargamer in this sense in the future.Gnomezrule2012-04-28T18:26:54Z