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Living check

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Is there a skill check to determine if an unconscious character is still living or not?

Shadow Lodge

Heal perhaps.

What DC though?

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Well, I would imagine fairly low. It would probably a matter of "Is it still breathing?" If it's just a normal person and you could see chest movement from breathing, or can feel them breathing if you put your mouth close, then it's fairly obvious.

Per RAW, there isn't.

That said, it would most likely be Heal. We've always houseruled it around DC 10 or so. If basic first aid is DC 15, checking a pulse should be a fair bit easier, barring abnormal situations.

For example, back in the day, silly commoners used to drink from lead cups. Sometimes they'd just pass out and go into a coma, quite close to death. No one could figure out whether or not they were dead, so they'd stick 'em on the kitchen table and wait for them to wake up. That's actually where the ritual of holding a wake came from, I believe.

Hopefully your PCs aren't quite so . . . feeble . . . but DC 10 should do in a pinch, I'd say.

Best of luck. :)

Grand Lodge

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In 3.x the DC to determine if someone was still alive with a Heal check was 15. Considering the DC to stabilize a dying character was also 15, and I never saw anyone who thought it through ever bother to check and see if they were dead or not -- just roll to stabilize. Both are standard actions, too.

Teehee, that's silly.

I'd make it either a heal or a perception check. Either way you need to be in the guys square to do it.

As an EMT in the real world, it is usually unlawful for me to pronounce someone dead. While there are obvious cases, they must meet A strict set of criteria. It is easier to perform CPR than to decide if someone is dead.

Just food for thought when setting the DCs.

there might not be a reliable way to see if someone is alife, but put an axe in his head and you know he is dead.

On the other hand I'm pretty sure I saw class abilities that let you feign death, there should be some mechanic. Could be that I remember 3PP though.

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