What can a Blackblade be?


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Paladin of Baha-who? wrote:

Only by FM fiat which would be required for this thing to even e ist. I would say no, it's a weapon equivalent to a brass knuckles or a cestus.

A Magus black blade cannot be a monk's unarmed strike, period, unless your DM just decides it can.

you just rendered this entire thread useless. thank you very much.


Happy to help. Have a nice day!


Paladin of Baha-who? wrote:
Happy to help. Have a nice day!

=P

i'll just go and ask my GM next time i see him.

KTHXBYE


Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Superscriber

Which is exactly what some of us have been saying from the beginning of the thread. Thank you Paladin for making it sink in at last.


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JAF0 wrote:
Which is exactly what some of us have been saying from the beginning of the thread. Thank you Paladin for making it sink in at last.

We sorta all knew that, we were just wasting ur time.

>=D


Why does this remind me of the thread where someone wanted RAW that let him have his monk chop off his hands and replace them with enchantable clockwork hands?


mdt wrote:
Why does this remind me of the thread where someone wanted RAW that let him have his monk chop off his hands and replace them with enchantable clockwork hands?

THATS EXACTLY WHAT I WANT!


I used a urumi for a blackblade once and it was quite effective.

Grand Lodge

A Klar makes a good Blackblade.


blackbloodtroll wrote:
A Klar makes a good Blackblade.

For me, Kama would be the most effective because it is the only Flurry of blows weapon that has slashing damage that a monk can use.

Edit: dammit thats not onehanded!


Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Superscriber

the double chicken saber and the nine ring broadsword (from UC) are both 1-handed slashing weapons that monks can use, and therefore flurry with.


JAF0 wrote:
the double chicken saber and the nine ring broadsword (from UC) are both 1-handed slashing weapons that monks can use, and therefore flurry with.

And Temple sword, which i think i like better, but i like to stick with my unarmed strike for all occasions except for making ranged attacks. bladebound (unless i can get a black blade UAS) is just not for my character.

Grand Lodge

A Klar can have shield enchantments as well.


What about sock puppets? Banjo the Clown? Mr Hat? Jennifer Lopez? Or perhaps a possessed hand, a la Idle Hands? Although, I would guess that the alignment matching would be difficult...


blackbloodtroll wrote:
A Klar can have shield enchantments as well.

Um... if i use a klar as armor, i get horrible negatives to basically everything, and with a klar as a weapon, im not proficient. for my character, the klar sucks.


If i can't get a black blade UAS, can someone please find a way to get an intelligent fist for me? With the benefits i have for my unarmed strike, i probably won't be as good with any weapon as i will with my UAS.

Grand Lodge

Can your Blackblade be made of a special material?


blackbloodtroll wrote:
Can your Blackblade be made of a special material?

I don't see why not... but you're unlikely to adamantine approved at character level 3. Obviously there are other choices (at that level), but if you're asking about adamantine, I hope this is some multiclass build you've discussed with your DM.

Grand Lodge

Mithral Klar, you are the choice Blackblade for me.

Grand Lodge

Wait, can a sword cane pistol be a Blackblade?


*insert-name-here* wrote:
mdt wrote:
Why does this remind me of the thread where someone wanted RAW that let him have his monk chop off his hands and replace them with enchantable clockwork hands?
THATS EXACTLY WHAT I WANT!

What you're looking for is something along the lines self-forged PrC from Eberron.

Linky


So what about all those prosthesis' in skull and shackles and inner sea pirates? Would that count? What about a Empty hand monk changing the damage type on his improvised weapon... can he have an improvised intelligent blade... a bucket? Perhaps a metal plate... a large book?

What if I wanted a spellslinger 1/Black blade magus 3 and have a gun sword? Can the black blade effect the gun part, or is the gun unintelligent, but the blade (since it functions a cane sword) is?


This thread has gone in a very strange direction.

Grand Lodge

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The Sword Cane Pistol does work! Magic gun blades for all.


Also, what's the biggest 1 hander you can get? A scizore for martial weapons is a d10, then there's bastard swords or great aztec clubs for 1 handed exotic d10s.

Oh, and what about a phalanx fighter 3/blade bound magus 3, can his black blade be a pole arm? Or is the consensus that 'after market' weapon group changes don't count? Such as slashing UAs via hamalatsu, boar, or tiger? Or titan maulers using large rope gauntlets, or large daggers (since a large light is a medium slashing, and the titan mauler reduces the penalties). Jotun grip does not work, since it's just "wield two hander one haned -2", but phanlanx fighting says if you use a shield, a pole arm is a one handed weapon.

Empty hand monk won't work, as it's 1 round swift actions to change damage, same for the Cad's 'razor sharp chair leg' ability. Which sucks since a talking table leg you beat folks with is a great role play oppertunity.


Oh and a half orc beastmaster bladebound with equipment trick: rope, can his rope be a black blade? Since he can say his rope is a whip?

Silver Crusade

blahpers wrote:
Technically, a scorpion whip can be a black blade, as was discussed in a recent thread.

Instantly in love with the imagery this evokes.

A chain of obsidion-like shards of black steel, all thin and small in the middle, larger and cruelly jagged at the tip.


Mikaze wrote:
blahpers wrote:
Technically, a scorpion whip can be a black blade, as was discussed in a recent thread.

Instantly in love with the imagery this evokes.

A chain of obsidion-like shards of black steel, all thin and small in the middle, larger and cruelly jagged at the tip.

Only if you use the AA version of Scorpion Whip. The UC version is light.

I pointed out the differences (with Dev quotes!) here and there's a FAQ thread here.

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I removed a couple offensive posts.

Grand Lodge

This thread got offensive posts? How is this a hot topic?


Someone probably got bent out of shape about the various conflicting definitions of "scorpion whip".

Grand Lodge

You can have a Combat Scabbard as your Blackblade.


Ross Byers wrote:
I removed a couple offensive posts.

...?


Yeah, I thought that it was pretty tame, too. Plus all I got were chuckles. Oh well, different strokes for different aneurysms, I guess.

Liberty's Edge

Ross Byers wrote:
I removed a couple offensive posts.

But...but...those were my favorites!


Archaeik wrote:

Agreed with Grick, barring extreme unusual circumstances, your own hand should not have(or gain) a mind of its own...

Reading this the first thing to pop into my head was D from Vampire Hunter D of course.

Sovereign Court

I think the goal here is that it's supposed to be a one handed sword or wedge weapon (axe). But technicalities also allow gardening tools and whips as well.

Also I believe that a black blade cannot be a an axe musket since while it technically counts as a battleaxe it is still a two-handed firearm. Also the Axehead and the Musket are two separate weapons technically.


I would say that the specification of one-handed slashing weapon was done on purpose to prevent a character combining the Bladebound and Staff Magus archetypes to best effect. Using the Quarterstaff Master feat, the staff magus treats a quarterstaff as a one-handed weapon, so if the specification of slashing wasn't there, there would be nothing to prevent the staff magus' staff from being a black "blade". Similarly, a staff magus can only use simple weapons, and there are no one-handed slashing simple weapons. Again, that seems very deliberate.

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