paizo.com Recent Posts in Do the modules come with flip mats?paizo.com Recent Posts in Do the modules come with flip mats?2013-08-28T19:58:07Z2013-08-28T19:58:07ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Adventures: Do the modules come with flip mats?Victor Zajic (alias of JOHN DICKERSON)https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2nwas?Do-the-modules-come-with-flip-mats#312013-12-19T01:39:44Z2013-12-17T16:43:03Z<p>Thread Necromancy go!</p>
<p>Here's my two cents. When you pay an artist to make a detailed map for an encounter in a published adventure, and there is no way to actually use that detailed map in the game (too small/ marked with details the players shouldn't know, ect), Paizo is wasting the money they spent on the detail, because the only person who can see it is the GM.</p>
<p>If you are going to spend money on fancy, detailed maps, please please please print them in a format that is actually usable in the game. Otherwise their only purpose is being the basis for time consuming and poorly drawn representations on the gaming mat actually used for game.</p>
<p>Crypt of the Everflame is a great example of this. The reason why I bought the module, and then the flip mat, is because they worked together. I happily paid for both, and I would not have paid for either otherwise.</p>Thread Necromancy go!
Here's my two cents. When you pay an artist to make a detailed map for an encounter in a published adventure, and there is no way to actually use that detailed map in the game (too small/ marked with details the players shouldn't know, ect), Paizo is wasting the money they spent on the detail, because the only person who can see it is the GM.
If you are going to spend money on fancy, detailed maps, please please please print them in a format that is actually usable in...Victor Zajic (alias of JOHN DICKERSON)2013-12-17T16:43:03ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Adventures: Do the modules come with flip mats?Biztakhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2nwas?Do-the-modules-come-with-flip-mats#292013-08-27T00:19:51Z2013-08-27T00:19:51Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Mark Moreland wrote:</div><blockquote> Thanks for the feedback, John. We're always looking for ways to improve our Pathfinder Modules line. As a point of comparison, though, consider that we charge roughly the same amount for one of our GameMastery Flip Mats as we do for a printed Pathfinder Module due to production costs involved. Would you be willing to pay twice the price for a combo pack of the two? </blockquote><p>YepMark Moreland wrote:Thanks for the feedback, John. We're always looking for ways to improve our Pathfinder Modules line. As a point of comparison, though, consider that we charge roughly the same amount for one of our GameMastery Flip Mats as we do for a printed Pathfinder Module due to production costs involved. Would you be willing to pay twice the price for a combo pack of the two?
YepBiztak2013-08-27T00:19:51ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Adventures: Do the modules come with flip mats?Nullpunkthttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2nwas?Do-the-modules-come-with-flip-mats#282013-08-19T14:06:06Z2013-08-19T14:06:06Z<p>The table we use has a white finish. It's a simple kitchen table and the setup works perfectly. I sincerely miss it in my second group.</p>
<p>By the way, it was inspired by <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGlpU4CbsvU" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">this</a> sensational gaming table.</p>The table we use has a white finish. It's a simple kitchen table and the setup works perfectly. I sincerely miss it in my second group.
By the way, it was inspired by this sensational gaming table.Nullpunkt2013-08-19T14:06:06ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Adventures: Do the modules come with flip mats?teribithia9https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2nwas?Do-the-modules-come-with-flip-mats#272013-08-17T00:23:18Z2013-08-17T00:23:18Z<p>Interesting. What do you project it onto? White board? Paper? White table cloth?</p>Interesting. What do you project it onto? White board? Paper? White table cloth?teribithia92013-08-17T00:23:18ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Adventures: Do the modules come with flip mats?Nullpunkthttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2nwas?Do-the-modules-come-with-flip-mats#262013-08-15T11:33:03Z2013-08-15T11:33:03Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Shadowborn wrote:</div><blockquote> <div class="messageboard-quotee">Quote:</div><blockquote>[...]His mapping style came down to "um lemme see, there's a log here" and he'd draw a box around three of the squares on the map and crosshatch them in. "There's a statue here" and he'd draw a box around another square and write "statue" inside. What the heck is this???? I didn't realize how much of a difference it made, but as a player this completely destroys the experience. Even worse, later on I looked at the module and saw all the beautiful maps that he was looking at, which could not be transmitted to us through the dry erase mat and a few hastily drawn blocks on top of a blank grid.</blockquote><p>Sorry that bursts your bubble, but that's how a solid majority of us have been gaming for decades. Maps aren't a big deal for me. I rarely use minatures. So long as I have a piece of graph paper with some marks on it showing positioning, we usually get through combat just fine. Everything else is just bells and whistles. Good GMs usually aren't rated by the quality of their accessories, but by how well they run the game.
<p>[...]</blockquote><p>You are right of course about everything you say, Shadowborn. But in my experience pre-made maps (flip-mats, print-outs on office paper, poster maps, projected maps...) have one major advantage: Speed. I GM two tables, at one we use a projector to project the maps on the table at the other one I draw the maps manually. We get (subjectively) twice as much done at the projector table with much less downtime.Shadowborn wrote:Quote:[...]His mapping style came down to "um lemme see, there's a log here" and he'd draw a box around three of the squares on the map and crosshatch them in. "There's a statue here" and he'd draw a box around another square and write "statue" inside. What the heck is this???? I didn't realize how much of a difference it made, but as a player this completely destroys the experience. Even worse, later on I looked at the module and saw all the beautiful maps that he was...Nullpunkt2013-08-15T11:33:03ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Adventures: Do the modules come with flip mats?gboneheadhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2nwas?Do-the-modules-come-with-flip-mats#252013-08-12T06:06:57Z2013-08-12T03:18:38Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">James Jacobs wrote:</div><blockquote> <div class="messageboard-quotee">gbonehead wrote:</div><blockquote> Hell, there's something like 45 map packs and 52 flip maps out there now; it can't be •that• hard to use at least one or two of them for encounters.</blockquote>We have. And it actually CAN be pretty hard to synchronize a module to a flip mat, since the two products aren't on the same schedule and utilize different company assets, combining the two complicates the most complex part of the entire adventure design process—the map. </blockquote><p>I understand what you're saying, but I'm not talking about making <i>new</i> material that matches the module. I'm talking about using some of the nearly 100 published flip mats and/or map packs for an encounter in a module.
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<p>My point is, all these adventures are being written, yet none of them leverage the wealth of GM material in the form of flip mats and map packs, and it would be wonderful if they did :)</p>James Jacobs wrote:gbonehead wrote: Hell, there's something like 45 map packs and 52 flip maps out there now; it can't be *that* hard to use at least one or two of them for encounters.
We have. And it actually CAN be pretty hard to synchronize a module to a flip mat, since the two products aren't on the same schedule and utilize different company assets, combining the two complicates the most complex part of the entire adventure design process—the map. I understand what you're saying, but...gbonehead2013-08-12T03:18:38ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Adventures: Do the modules come with flip mats?Shadowborn (alias of Jeff Lee)https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2nwas?Do-the-modules-come-with-flip-mats#242019-05-20T21:54:57Z2013-08-11T19:10:13Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Quote:</div><blockquote>I played a few living forgotten realms games at a very large store in my area with (supposedly) one of the best GMs around here (I live in Los Angeles). His mapping style came down to "um lemme see, there's a log here" and he'd draw a box around three of the squares on the map and crosshatch them in. "There's a statue here" and he'd draw a box around another square and write "statue" inside. What the heck is this???? I didn't realize how much of a difference it made, but as a player this completely destroys the experience. Even worse, later on I looked at the module and saw all the beautiful maps that he was looking at, which could not be transmitted to us through the dry erase mat and a few hastily drawn blocks on top of a blank grid.</blockquote><p>Sorry that bursts your bubble, but that's how a solid majority of us have been gaming for decades. Maps aren't a big deal for me. I rarely use minatures. So long as I have a piece of graph paper with some marks on it showing positioning, we usually get through combat just fine. Everything else is just bells and whistles. Good GMs usually aren't rated by the quality of their accessories, but by how well they run the game.
<p>As for maps with the modules, doubling the cost would definitely decrease the chance of me buying any premade adventures.</p>Quote:I played a few living forgotten realms games at a very large store in my area with (supposedly) one of the best GMs around here (I live in Los Angeles). His mapping style came down to "um lemme see, there's a log here" and he'd draw a box around three of the squares on the map and crosshatch them in. "There's a statue here" and he'd draw a box around another square and write "statue" inside. What the heck is this???? I didn't realize how much of a difference it made, but as a player...Shadowborn (alias of Jeff Lee)2013-08-11T19:10:13ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Adventures: Do the modules come with flip mats?Redneckdevilhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2nwas?Do-the-modules-come-with-flip-mats#232013-08-11T18:43:10Z2013-08-11T18:43:10Z<p>Yes I will pay extra to have the maps with the modules. I already basically bought or preordered the lastest 3 modules coming out.</p>Yes I will pay extra to have the maps with the modules. I already basically bought or preordered the lastest 3 modules coming out.Redneckdevil2013-08-11T18:43:10ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Adventures: Do the modules come with flip mats?James Jacobs (Creative Director)https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2nwas?Do-the-modules-come-with-flip-mats#222013-08-11T18:12:59Z2013-08-11T18:12:59Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">gbonehead wrote:</div><blockquote> Hell, there's something like 45 map packs and 52 flip maps out there now; it can't be •that• hard to use at least one or two of them for encounters.</blockquote><p>We have. And it actually CAN be pretty hard to synchronize a module to a flip mat, since the two products aren't on the same schedule and utilize different company assets, combining the two complicates the most complex part of the entire adventure design process—the map.gbonehead wrote:Hell, there's something like 45 map packs and 52 flip maps out there now; it can't be *that* hard to use at least one or two of them for encounters.
We have. And it actually CAN be pretty hard to synchronize a module to a flip mat, since the two products aren't on the same schedule and utilize different company assets, combining the two complicates the most complex part of the entire adventure design process—the map.James Jacobs (Creative Director)2013-08-11T18:12:59ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Adventures: Do the modules come with flip mats?gboneheadhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2nwas?Do-the-modules-come-with-flip-mats#212013-08-11T01:34:57Z2013-08-11T01:18:33Z<p>While I understand the difficulties involved in tying the flip-mat and/or map pack line to the modules line, it <i>would</i> be really cool if the module line did a better job of leveraging existing material.</p>
<p>Hell, there's something like 45 map packs and 52 flip maps out there now; it can't be •that• hard to use at least one or two of them for encounters.</p>
<p>Yeah, I know it breaks the ability to design things from scratch a little bit, but in terms of GMs actually being able to use the stuff they already own, it's a huge win.</p>
<p>I'll take a flip mat or a few sheets from a map pack over my own chicken scratch any day of the week.</p>While I understand the difficulties involved in tying the flip-mat and/or map pack line to the modules line, it would be really cool if the module line did a better job of leveraging existing material.
Hell, there's something like 45 map packs and 52 flip maps out there now; it can't be *that* hard to use at least one or two of them for encounters.
Yeah, I know it breaks the ability to design things from scratch a little bit, but in terms of GMs actually being able to use the stuff they...gbonehead2013-08-11T01:18:33ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Adventures: Do the modules come with flip mats?teribithia9https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2nwas?Do-the-modules-come-with-flip-mats#202013-08-10T17:17:18Z2013-08-10T17:03:57Z<p>I would definitely be willing to pay extra to get all of the maps in these modules pre-printed or even as pdfs that are already on the correct scale. Honestly, I'm considering going to office max today and paying them a godawful amount of money to print them to the right size for me, anyway. I'd rather give my money to paizo than office max!</p>I would definitely be willing to pay extra to get all of the maps in these modules pre-printed or even as pdfs that are already on the correct scale. Honestly, I'm considering going to office max today and paying them a godawful amount of money to print them to the right size for me, anyway. I'd rather give my money to paizo than office max!teribithia92013-08-10T17:03:57ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Adventures: Do the modules come with flip mats?John Robeyhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2nwas?Do-the-modules-come-with-flip-mats#192013-08-06T14:51:39Z2013-08-06T14:51:39Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Mark Moreland wrote:</div><blockquote> Thanks for the feedback, John. We're always looking for ways to improve our Pathfinder Modules line. As a point of comparison, though, consider that we charge roughly the same amount for one of our GameMastery Flip Mats as we do for a printed Pathfinder Module due to production costs involved. Would you be willing to pay twice the price for a combo pack of the two? </blockquote><p>Hmm... I never saw this, and it's over a year old now, but I'll go ahead and answer: I'm already kinda doing this, in that I subscribed starting with Dragon's Demand partially on reading that it came with such a map. :)
<p>I've bought several 4e modules that I would never have bought otherwise because they came with maps. Not heavy cardstock, not laminated, just flimsy magazine paper. But I've used many of them again and again.</p>
<p>-The Gneech</p>Mark Moreland wrote:Thanks for the feedback, John. We're always looking for ways to improve our Pathfinder Modules line. As a point of comparison, though, consider that we charge roughly the same amount for one of our GameMastery Flip Mats as we do for a printed Pathfinder Module due to production costs involved. Would you be willing to pay twice the price for a combo pack of the two?
Hmm... I never saw this, and it's over a year old now, but I'll go ahead and answer: I'm already kinda doing...John Robey2013-08-06T14:51:39ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Adventures: Do the modules come with flip mats?Pemberfoot (alias of Jason Pemberfoot)https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2nwas?Do-the-modules-come-with-flip-mats#182013-08-06T11:56:45Z2013-08-06T11:56:45Z<p>I would like to see an "Optional" Gamemastery map that corresponds with a Module. Separate sale. Almost like a bonus double sided map that you don't NEED to play the Module...but would be really cool to have in addition too.</p>I would like to see an "Optional" Gamemastery map that corresponds with a Module. Separate sale. Almost like a bonus double sided map that you don't NEED to play the Module...but would be really cool to have in addition too.Pemberfoot (alias of Jason Pemberfoot)2013-08-06T11:56:45ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Adventures: Do the modules come with flip mats?Ryan Parker 901https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2nwas?Do-the-modules-come-with-flip-mats#172013-08-06T04:58:13Z2013-08-06T04:58:13Z<p>I would definitely pay extra for flip mats or any kind of map I could use GMing. The game is way better for me and players with a map that draws them in to make them feel that they are really there.</p>I would definitely pay extra for flip mats or any kind of map I could use GMing. The game is way better for me and players with a map that draws them in to make them feel that they are really there.Ryan Parker 9012013-08-06T04:58:13ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Adventures: Do the modules come with flip mats?Salienthttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2nwas?Do-the-modules-come-with-flip-mats#162013-12-19T01:36:11Z2012-04-18T19:55:53Z<p>Given the wide availability of laptops easily connected to flat screen tv's or tablets at the game table is it not possible for Paizo to implement a web only player map so that the maps don't need to be printed at all. </p>
<p>Sell this digital map at a low $ amount for those that buy at their local store/dealer and those that buy direct it's part of their download section. (I envision $1 - $3) for the digital map.</p>
<p>While this won't work for everyone it should make a big enough impact in the market to effectively solve the issue for many people. </p>
<p>- This system will also give great insight back to the Paizo marketing department as they will be able to see the volume of traffic accessing the digital maps and then can decide which product was best received by the customer. A key point is noticing the longevity of certain maps. This could allow for better internal decisions on new paths and modules and opens up a new digital content revenue stream. </p>
<p>- The maps would not be downloadable/savable as the size on the screen it just wouldn't format or be easy to manipulate the product into a printer.</p>Given the wide availability of laptops easily connected to flat screen tv's or tablets at the game table is it not possible for Paizo to implement a web only player map so that the maps don't need to be printed at all.
Sell this digital map at a low $ amount for those that buy at their local store/dealer and those that buy direct it's part of their download section. (I envision $1 - $3) for the digital map.
While this won't work for everyone it should make a big enough impact in the market...Salient2012-04-18T19:55:53ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Adventures: Do the modules come with flip mats?Aventharhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2nwas?Do-the-modules-come-with-flip-mats#152012-04-10T03:05:26Z2012-04-10T03:05:26Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Mark Moreland wrote:</div><blockquote> Thanks for the feedback, John. We're always looking for ways to improve our Pathfinder Modules line. As a point of comparison, though, consider that we charge roughly the same amount for one of our GameMastery Flip Mats as we do for a printed Pathfinder Module due to production costs involved. Would you be willing to pay twice the price for a combo pack of the two? </blockquote><p>Sure, but i'd much rather have them sold as separate products as they currently are. I'll probably buy both, but that way it's my choice.
<p>Also, while I like the idea of tying Map Packs and Flip Mats closely to published modules (and also Adventure Paths), I also like getting generic locations for my homebrew adventures. I'm not sure how to deal with it for the Map Packs, but the Flip Mats could easily include a generic location on one side and something more specific on the other...</p>
<p>Just my 2 cents.</p>Mark Moreland wrote:Thanks for the feedback, John. We're always looking for ways to improve our Pathfinder Modules line. As a point of comparison, though, consider that we charge roughly the same amount for one of our GameMastery Flip Mats as we do for a printed Pathfinder Module due to production costs involved. Would you be willing to pay twice the price for a combo pack of the two?
Sure, but i'd much rather have them sold as separate products as they currently are. I'll probably buy both,...Aventhar2012-04-10T03:05:26ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Adventures: Do the modules come with flip mats?Kevin Andrew Murphy (Contributor)https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2nwas?Do-the-modules-come-with-flip-mats#142012-04-09T23:04:40Z2012-04-09T23:04:40Z<p>I tend to use maps far more than modules. What I think might be best is going through existing modules and putting a priority for certain sites that may not yet have a suitable flip map or map pack, or not have one in print.</p>I tend to use maps far more than modules. What I think might be best is going through existing modules and putting a priority for certain sites that may not yet have a suitable flip map or map pack, or not have one in print.Kevin Andrew Murphy (Contributor)2012-04-09T23:04:40ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Adventures: Do the modules come with flip mats?Mark Moreland (Director of Brand Strategy)https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2nwas?Do-the-modules-come-with-flip-mats#132012-04-09T18:37:51Z2012-04-09T18:37:51Z<p>Even printing the maps on paper or releasing them as print-yourself PDF enhancements would drastically increase the cost of the product. When we order a map for an adventure, we're paying the cartographer to make a half-page or full-page map with the appropriate level of detail for a map of that scale. Given the number of maps needed in a 32-page adventure, we'd need to order the equivalent of two to three flip-mats at higher resolution and detail. This, even without printing them or printing them on normal paper, would vastly increase the the cost of the product, and in some cases, rule out certain adventures that would use large dungeon complexes or overland mapping that couldn't fit on a single flip-mat.</p>Even printing the maps on paper or releasing them as print-yourself PDF enhancements would drastically increase the cost of the product. When we order a map for an adventure, we're paying the cartographer to make a half-page or full-page map with the appropriate level of detail for a map of that scale. Given the number of maps needed in a 32-page adventure, we'd need to order the equivalent of two to three flip-mats at higher resolution and detail. This, even without printing them or printing...Mark Moreland (Director of Brand Strategy)2012-04-09T18:37:51ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Adventures: Do the modules come with flip mats?Kajehasehttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2nwas?Do-the-modules-come-with-flip-mats#122012-04-09T12:51:22Z2012-04-09T12:51:22Z<p>Modules packed along with the flip-mats? Thanks, but no thank you. The module line is already in "purchase only when I have more money than usual" category for me, and increasing the price by x2 would just push it into the "don't buy" group.</p>
<p>What would be nice to see, though, would be a greater correspondence between flip-mats, map packs, and the Modules line. As in, perhaps Paizo could try to get as many as possible of the maps from the modules be made into flip mats and map packs that could be sold independently of the module.</p>Modules packed along with the flip-mats? Thanks, but no thank you. The module line is already in "purchase only when I have more money than usual" category for me, and increasing the price by x2 would just push it into the "don't buy" group.
What would be nice to see, though, would be a greater correspondence between flip-mats, map packs, and the Modules line. As in, perhaps Paizo could try to get as many as possible of the maps from the modules be made into flip mats and map packs that...Kajehase2012-04-09T12:51:22ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Adventures: Do the modules come with flip mats?Nullpunkthttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2nwas?Do-the-modules-come-with-flip-mats#112012-04-09T12:16:02Z2012-04-09T12:16:02Z<p>I have posted this before but it can't hurt to say it again:</p>
<p>I use Some PDF Image Extract to get the maps from the pdfs. Because a pdf is a layered format you get "clean" unkeyed images that are perfectly fine for the players to see. In addition I use Photoshop to enlarge the images and the built-in options allow an almost perfect resizing with only very little pixelating.</p>I have posted this before but it can't hurt to say it again:
I use Some PDF Image Extract to get the maps from the pdfs. Because a pdf is a layered format you get "clean" unkeyed images that are perfectly fine for the players to see. In addition I use Photoshop to enlarge the images and the built-in options allow an almost perfect resizing with only very little pixelating.Nullpunkt2012-04-09T12:16:02ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Adventures: Do the modules come with flip mats?Steve Geddeshttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2nwas?Do-the-modules-come-with-flip-mats#102012-04-09T03:09:40Z2012-04-09T03:09:40Z<p><a href="http://paizo.com/products/btpy8pva?Dungeons-Dragons-Map-Pack-Haunted-Temples" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">This is what prompted the thought that paper would be cheaper than flipmats.</a></p>
<p>This is predominantly used artwork, but includes some new maps (and hence cartography cost). It seems to me from an armchair analysis that increasing the resolution/detail of some of the module maps as would be required if they were to be blown up to battlemat resolution could be defrayed if a low-cost, paper version were released concurrently with the module.</p>
<p>It appears that Paizo have shied away from the flimsy paper WoTC use for their battlemats, so that might run counter to some corporate production value/quality policy. Nonetheless, if clearly telegraphed as such, there might be a market for a budget line of maps (3 double-sided battlemats for $12 seems like a bargain to me). I, for one, am an avid collector of both the flipmats and the various paper battlemats. If stored appropriately, they dont get damaged too bad.</p>This is what prompted the thought that paper would be cheaper than flipmats.
This is predominantly used artwork, but includes some new maps (and hence cartography cost). It seems to me from an armchair analysis that increasing the resolution/detail of some of the module maps as would be required if they were to be blown up to battlemat resolution could be defrayed if a low-cost, paper version were released concurrently with the module.
It appears that Paizo have shied away from the flimsy...Steve Geddes2012-04-09T03:09:40ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Adventures: Do the modules come with flip mats?Talonhawkehttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2nwas?Do-the-modules-come-with-flip-mats#92012-04-08T03:31:04Z2012-04-08T03:31:04Z<p>Yes please I would love to get AP's with a paper flip mat some monster pawns (for the monsters that arent already availble from the pawn box) and even a printed coply of the players guide. I would easily pay 10 or 15 more for the time it saves me.</p>Yes please I would love to get AP's with a paper flip mat some monster pawns (for the monsters that arent already availble from the pawn box) and even a printed coply of the players guide. I would easily pay 10 or 15 more for the time it saves me.Talonhawke2012-04-08T03:31:04ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Adventures: Do the modules come with flip mats?spqr202https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2nwas?Do-the-modules-come-with-flip-mats#82012-04-08T03:26:51Z2012-04-08T03:26:51Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Steve Geddes wrote:</div><blockquote> module "enhancement pack" </blockquote><p>hire this man now. I would buy. make for adventure paths as well. thanks.Steve Geddes wrote:module "enhancement pack"
hire this man now. I would buy. make for adventure paths as well. thanks.spqr2022012-04-08T03:26:51ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Adventures: Do the modules come with flip mats?Steve Geddeshttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2nwas?Do-the-modules-come-with-flip-mats#72012-04-08T02:49:39Z2012-04-08T02:39:03Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Mark Moreland wrote:</div><blockquote> Thanks for the feedback, John. We're always looking for ways to improve our Pathfinder Modules line. As a point of comparison, though, consider that we charge roughly the same amount for one of our GameMastery Flip Mats as we do for a printed Pathfinder Module due to production costs involved. Would you be willing to pay twice the price for a combo pack of the two? </blockquote><p>Would making them out of paper instead of having them erasable reduce the cost significantly?
<p>I think the move to tying the gamemastery products closer to your others has been good, but not as good as a module specific battlemat would be. I personally would definitely pay for such a thing (maybe a module "enhancement pack" consisting of battle mats, pawns and a player handout or two might be feasible occasionally for the right module?)</p>Mark Moreland wrote:Thanks for the feedback, John. We're always looking for ways to improve our Pathfinder Modules line. As a point of comparison, though, consider that we charge roughly the same amount for one of our GameMastery Flip Mats as we do for a printed Pathfinder Module due to production costs involved. Would you be willing to pay twice the price for a combo pack of the two?
Would making them out of paper instead of having them erasable reduce the cost significantly? I think the...Steve Geddes2012-04-08T02:39:03Z