The shooting in Florida


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I haven't espoused any hateful point of view, nor have i dissuaged any particular race, creed, or kind of any sort. If expressing concern over the well being, and future of my own race is frowned upon, that only goes to show the extent of the damage. Why is that a bad thing? I see other races literally commandeering the airwaves and spewing such views forth 24/7. WHats disappointing about what i said? Honesty is my only excuse...


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XxAnthraxusxX wrote:

I don't think following Martin could be considered "stalking". Stalking requires repeated offenses of certain behaviour patterns not present in this scenario.Honestly, ask yourself, if say the cops had teleported to the scene and Martin claimed he was being "stalked"..by who? Someone who has never seen him before and has never seen him before?

Also, 911 dispatchers are not police,and "police" never told Zimmerman anything prior to the shooting.
Everybody seems fixated that Zimmerman shot Martin...nobody here has ever had the hell beaten out of them? Beating the crap out of someone is perfectly acceptable in certain circumstances. And so is shooting a teenager in the chest.Should be interesting to see how this one plays out.
I live in the ghetto,i can tell alot of people here do not, and have not. I know how these little hoods act, and have seen it first hand. Your sympathy is misguided, misplaced and rather puzzling.
I almost hope they find Zimmerman totally guilty so i don't fall prey to reprisals, because i wouldn't be surprised if neighborhoods burn and innocent,actual white people are assualted, or as in the past murdered in REAL cold blood.Look into the crime statistics by race btw all you skeptics. It's not "profiling" it's just good police work in my book.

I didn't deny the holocaust, i did however question the actual intent/statistics claimed etc. That isn't racist. You know there is another genocide going on as we speak, only it isn't quite as obvious as the one that the Nazi's were purported to have attempted. It happens everyday and as long as it is a white nation it's happening in it is completely ignored. It's called "diversity". You would be shocked to see what happens if it is attempted in any other type of nation.

I'd say this is fairly racist.


The human race?

Yeah, I'm a bit worried about things like Voyager (even assuming it doesn't become V-Ger) inviting aliens to show up and do to us what happened to the natives when the Europeans showed up (if we are even that lucky).

Liberty's Edge

XxAnthraxusxX wrote:
Honesty is my only excuse...

Then honestly, you are kind of racist.

Scarab Sages

XxAnthraxusxX wrote:

I don't think following Martin could be considered "stalking". Stalking requires repeated offenses of certain behaviour patterns not present in this scenario.Honestly, ask yourself, if say the cops had teleported to the scene and Martin claimed he was being "stalked"..by who? Someone who has never seen him before and has never seen him before?

Also, 911 dispatchers are not police,and "police" never told Zimmerman anything prior to the shooting.
Everybody seems fixated that Zimmerman shot Martin...nobody here has ever had the hell beaten out of them? Beating the crap out of someone is perfectly acceptable in certain circumstances. And so is shooting a teenager in the chest.Should be interesting to see how this one plays out.
I live in the ghetto,i can tell alot of people here do not, and have not. I know how these little hoods act, and have seen it first hand. Your sympathy is misguided, misplaced and rather puzzling.
I almost hope they find Zimmerman totally guilty so i don't fall prey to reprisals, because i wouldn't be surprised if neighborhoods burn and innocent,actual white people are assualted, or as in the past murdered in REAL cold blood.Look into the crime statistics by race btw all you skeptics. It's not "profiling" it's just good police work in my book.

It is stalking. Three different times in the span of less than ten minutes. So that falls into the category of repeated offenses. I don't know about Florida, but in the states I've lived in, if dispatch tells you NOT to do something, and you do it anyway, you can be charged.

What you're FAILING at understanding is that Martin was fighting off the guy stalking him. Zimmerman started the entire thing and got his @ $ $ kicked before shooting the kid in the chest.


A couple of things I question.

1.) Assuming BNW's maps are legit (a pretty big assumption, but I'll make it for the sake of discussion), Trayvon went behind a building where he wouldn't be seen when he thought he was being followed? Stupid move.

2.) What did Trayvon do to prove that Zimmerman was following him? At what point should it be okay for somebody to beat -your- head against the sidewalk because you happen to be walking in the same direction (not saying that that was or was not what Zimmerman was doing, just asking where you think the line should be).

Liberty's Edge

Darkwing Duck wrote:

A couple of things I question.

1.) Assuming BNW's maps are legit (a pretty big assumption, but I'll make it for the sake of discussion), Trayvon went behind a building where he wouldn't be seen when he thought he was being followed? Stupid move.

2.) What did Trayvon do to prove that Zimmerman was following him? At what point should it be okay for somebody to beat -your- head against the sidewalk because you happen to be walking in the same direction (not saying that that was or was not what Zimmerman was doing, just asking where you think the line should be).

1) a) Why is it a big assumption. B) He went where the car couldn't go, because they guy following him was driving a car. Then they guy following him a car got out of the car and kept following him.

2) Based on where Trayvon was shot, Zimmerman had to have approached him, as he could have just observed him from the top of the sidewalk. So we have a guy who follows someone by car, then when they duck down an alley to get away from them, continues to follow them, approaching them and confronting them directly (as if he was just observing, he could have done so from the top of the sidewalk, and if Trayvon had approached him, it would have been at the top of the sidewalk)

Face it, Zimmerman made a series of bad decisions that lead to a 17 year old kid getting shot on his way home from 7-11.


Darkwing Duck wrote:

A couple of things I question.

1.) Assuming BNW's maps are legit (a pretty big assumption, but I'll make it for the sake of discussion), Trayvon went behind a building where he wouldn't be seen when he thought he was being followed? Stupid move.

2.) What did Trayvon do to prove that Zimmerman was following him? At what point should it be okay for somebody to beat -your- head against the sidewalk because you happen to be walking in the same direction (not saying that that was or was not what Zimmerman was doing, just asking where you think the line should be).

1) He headed away from the road where the guy could follow in a car? If there was no one else out on the street, who would have seen him anyway? It was dark and raining.

Also, it may well have been where he was headed anyway: as short and more pleasant way back to the house.

2) What did he do? Ran off of the road and around a corner. The guy he was worried about got out of his car and ran after him.
If someone gets out of his car and runs after you, that's not just walking in the same direction.

Scarab Sages

Darkwing Duck wrote:

A couple of things I question.

1.) Assuming BNW's maps are legit (a pretty big assumption, but I'll make it for the sake of discussion), Trayvon went behind a building where he wouldn't be seen when he thought he was being followed? Stupid move.

Not a stupid move. I've pulled it several times. Bought me time and distance. It's actually a very good move in order to get away.

Darkwing Duck wrote:


2.) What did Trayvon do to prove that Zimmerman was following him? At what point should it be okay for somebody to beat -your- head against the sidewalk because you happen to be walking in the same direction (not saying that that was or was not what Zimmerman was doing, just asking where you think the line should be).

It's not hard to tell if someone is following you in this situation. Especially in a gated community.


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XxAnthraxusxX wrote:
Look into the crime statistics by race btw all you skeptics. It's not "profiling" it's just good police work in my book.

Holy crap. I never EVER thought I'd read something so heinously, ignorant and racist on these boards. There's a lot of people on these boards I'd like to punch in the dick, believe me, but this has taken the cake.

You probably just shouldn't post here anymore. The hobby doesn't want you.


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Anthraxus, go watch Amertcan History X


meatrace wrote:
XxAnthraxusxX wrote:
Look into the crime statistics by race btw all you skeptics. It's not "profiling" it's just good police work in my book.

Holy crap. I never EVER thought I'd read something so heinously, ignorant and racist on these boards. There's a lot of people on these boards I'd like to punch in the dick, believe me, but this has taken the cake.

You probably just shouldn't post here anymore. The hobby doesn't want you.

Sure, its racist.

Is it more racist than everyone in this thread who is looking to condemn Zimmerman because he's "white Hispanic" despite any real evidence against him?

Is it more racist than the newspapers who lied and misrepresented the facts because "white on black crime news" sells copy?

Probably not.


Hey DD, regardless of race one guy killed another, you do the math.


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Darkwing Duck wrote:


Is it more racist than everyone in this thread who is looking to condemn Zimmerman because he's "white Hispanic" despite any real evidence against him?

Zero people here are condemning him because he's "white hispanic" they're condemning him because he shot and killed an unarmed teenager.

So, yes, holocaust denial, saying (or even suggesting) that all profiling against black people is okay because they commit most of the crimes, and saying that races should stay separate is more racist than the people here who could give two s$&$s about race.

In trying to equate my desire to see a homicide investigated with holocaust denial and white separatism, you can also go away and never come back.


Darkwing Duck wrote:


Is it more racist than everyone in this thread who is looking to condemn Zimmerman because he's "white Hispanic" despite any real evidence against him?

I can only speak as someone who has been following the story since March 18th, but I've never once heard someone refer to George Zimmerman as being white on the news. They have said, or suggested, that the shooting may have in some way been racially motivated, which is not even close to being the same thing.

The false equivalence game you play, especially how loose with facts you are and quick you are to paint anyone who disagrees with your neo-con values as racist, makes you persona non grata.


I've got NO problem with anyone who wants an investigation. Hell, I want an investigation done. My issue is with everyone who is judging him without any real evidence. I don't know if he's innocent. But I'm not going to assume he's guilty until all the evidence comes out in court.

As for shooting someone in self defense when that person is beating your head repeatedly and viciously against a sidewalk and your cries for help are going without response? Yeah, I got no problem with that either.

I respect the views of people who have embraced pacifism even when being brutally attacked. I just don't share their views.


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Darkwing Duck wrote:

I've got NO problem with anyone who wants an investigation. Hell, I want an investigation done. My issue is with everyone who is judging him without any real evidence. I don't know if he's innocent. But I'm not going to assume he's guilty until all the evidence comes out in court.

As for shooting someone in self defense when that person is beating your head repeatedly and viciously against a sidewalk and your cries for help are going without response? Yeah, I got no problem with that either.

I respect the views of people who have embraced pacifism even when being brutally attacked. I just don't share their views.

Wow. Just wow. How do you figure he was brutally attacked? He had a couple scratches. As opposed to the other guy, who is DEAD.

I have a problem with wannabe cops who "patrol" their neighborhood packing heat, looking for a fight, seeing every shadow as a thug.

I mean as long as we're free to characterize, at least mine is based on things we actually know about Zimmerman, whereas yours is fantasy and conjecture.

You don't want Zimmerman judged without evidence...except you're doing precisely the same thing for Trayvon. And then equating the side sympathetic to the, ya know, dead teenager with white separatism...


meatrace wrote:
I've never once heard someone refer to George Zimmerman as being white on the news.
Quote:


George Zimmerman, who is white, shot and killed him

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/law/jan-june12/trayvon_martin_04-09.html


I didn't say it didn't happen, just that I never heard that. That wasn't where I heard about the story, and I wasn't colored by that concept of happenings whatsoever, so I (understandably) don't like being painted with that brush.

Also, by the time this thread WAS STARTED, there was no dispute about Zimmerman's race, so even suggesting that people here thought he was white is so ridiculously disingenuous...


meatrace wrote:


Wow. Just wow. How do you figure he was brutally attacked?

Since when do a fractured nose, two black eyes, a minor back injury, and head lacerations count as only "a couple of scratches"?

I've NEVER heard of a fractured nose described as "a couple of scratches", let alone that other stuff.


Was that on the police report, or recorded by the family doctor?


meatrace wrote:

I didn't say it didn't happen, just that I never heard that. That wasn't where I heard about the story, and I wasn't colored by that concept of happenings whatsoever, so I (understandably) don't like being painted with that brush.

Also, by the time this thread WAS STARTED, there was no dispute about Zimmerman's race, so even suggesting that people here thought he was white is so ridiculously disingenuous...

There's -still- dispute over his race. Is he "white Hispanic" (whatever the hell that means), "Hispanic", "white"? The link I posted to just a few posts back is to a transcript that was still calling him "white" AFTER this thread started.


Darkwing Duck wrote:
meatrace wrote:


Wow. Just wow. How do you figure he was brutally attacked?

Since when do a fractured nose, two black eyes, a minor back injury, and head lacerations count as only "a couple of scratches"?

I've NEVER heard of a fractured nose described as "a couple of scratches", let alone that other stuff.

I have, no joke, had worse injuries from slipping on ice in my backyard. I've seen the photos of him, and they don't really look like black eyes. But yes, perhaps I exaggerated. The scale looks like this.

Couple Scratches(what I said)>>>>>What happened>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ;>Brutal Beating


Hitdice wrote:
Was that on the police report, or recorded by the family doctor?

The family doctor as reported here

http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2012/05/trayvon-martin-autopsy-george-zimmerma n-medical-report-fight.html


meatrace wrote:


I have, no joke, had worse injuries from slipping on ice in my backyard

Did that ice keep beating you without you having any idea when it was going to stop?


Darkwing Duck wrote:
There's -still- dispute over his race. Is he "white Hispanic" (whatever the hell that means), "Hispanic", "white"? The link I posted to just a few posts back is to a transcript that was still calling him "white" AFTER this thread started.

Okay, some news sources misreported his race. I'm not sure that really matters UNLESS you think that all, or the majority, of the black population would hate him more for being white than hispanic. I can only make conjecture based on a whole lot of personal experience, but the latinos I've met hate black people about as much as the Klan.

Racism in America is a many-faceted thing.


Darkwing Duck wrote:
Hitdice wrote:
Was that on the police report, or recorded by the family doctor?

The family doctor as reported here

http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2012/05/trayvon-martin-autopsy-george-zimmerma n-medical-report-fight.html

So the EMTs on the scene didn't see any treatable injury?


Darkwing Duck wrote:
meatrace wrote:


I have, no joke, had worse injuries from slipping on ice in my backyard

Did that ice keep beating you without you having any idea when it was going to stop?

You don't know that Trayvon DIDN'T stop before he was shot. You don't know that Trayvon started the fight. Stop acting like you do.

But yes, in effect, it did. I broke an ankle really bad, and after screaming for like 10 minutes for help tried to stand up and hobble home. I don't know if you've ever tried to hop a half a block home on slick ice, but it's HRRRD! I think I would up with a sprained wrist and a concussion, as well as severe bruising on my backside.


meatrace wrote:
Darkwing Duck wrote:
There's -still- dispute over his race. Is he "white Hispanic" (whatever the hell that means), "Hispanic", "white"? The link I posted to just a few posts back is to a transcript that was still calling him "white" AFTER this thread started.

Okay, some news sources misreported his race. I'm not sure that really matters UNLESS you think that all, or the majority, of the black population would hate him more for being white than hispanic. I can only make conjecture based on a whole lot of personal experience, but the latinos I've met hate black people about as much as the Klan.

Racism in America is a many-faceted thing.

The majority of news agencies got his race wrong. But, hey, "white on black crime" sells copy. Who cares that it led to all kinds of additional violence

People want to hear stories about the white devil attacking young black children armed with candy (wait, he's 17? we can't show that picture! I mean, its okay to show the "white" "aggressor" in prison orange, but not this) Oh, and while we're at it, lets make sure not to show a current picture of Zimmerman, he doesn't look white enough. Crap, we got busted for misreporting the 911 call, quick, somebody get us a scapegoat and hope that no one asks why in hell a group of professionals whose job it is to do investigative reporting didn't bother to do any investigative reporting on a national case that resulted in somebody getting killed.

The media has been making a killing (no pun intended) selling copy by feeding into the metanarrative of white on black crime. Hell, yeah, I want an investigation. I want to know what the hell happened and if Zimmerman is innocent or not. But, I'm going to hold off on judgement until we have actual evidence.


meatrace wrote:
Darkwing Duck wrote:
meatrace wrote:


I have, no joke, had worse injuries from slipping on ice in my backyard

Did that ice keep beating you without you having any idea when it was going to stop?

You don't know that Trayvon DIDN'T stop before he was shot. You don't know that Trayvon started the fight. Stop acting like you do.

But yes, in effect, it did. I broke an ankle really bad, and after screaming for like 10 minutes for help tried to stand up and hobble home. I don't know if you've ever tried to hop a half a block home on slick ice, but it's HRRRD! I think I would up with a sprained wrist and a concussion, as well as severe bruising on my backside.

I know that the eye witnesses said that Trayvon was on top of Zimmerman. Not that he gave Zimmerman one quick tap and then got off of him. I'm not sure how a person could end up with two black eyes, a fractured nose, a back injury, and lacerations on the back of his head from a guy who just tapped and stopped.


Darkwing Duck wrote:
meatrace wrote:
Darkwing Duck wrote:
meatrace wrote:


I have, no joke, had worse injuries from slipping on ice in my backyard

Did that ice keep beating you without you having any idea when it was going to stop?

You don't know that Trayvon DIDN'T stop before he was shot. You don't know that Trayvon started the fight. Stop acting like you do.

But yes, in effect, it did. I broke an ankle really bad, and after screaming for like 10 minutes for help tried to stand up and hobble home. I don't know if you've ever tried to hop a half a block home on slick ice, but it's HRRRD! I think I would up with a sprained wrist and a concussion, as well as severe bruising on my backside.

I know that the eye witnesses said that Trayvon was on top of Zimmerman. Not that he gave Zimmerman one quick tap and then got off of him. I'm not sure how a person could end up with two black eyes, a fractured nose, a back injury, and lacerations on the back of his head from a guy who just tapped and stopped.

Once again, the EMTs on the scene didn't see any treatable injury?


Hitdice wrote:
Darkwing Duck wrote:
meatrace wrote:
Darkwing Duck wrote:
meatrace wrote:


I have, no joke, had worse injuries from slipping on ice in my backyard

Did that ice keep beating you without you having any idea when it was going to stop?

You don't know that Trayvon DIDN'T stop before he was shot. You don't know that Trayvon started the fight. Stop acting like you do.

But yes, in effect, it did. I broke an ankle really bad, and after screaming for like 10 minutes for help tried to stand up and hobble home. I don't know if you've ever tried to hop a half a block home on slick ice, but it's HRRRD! I think I would up with a sprained wrist and a concussion, as well as severe bruising on my backside.

I know that the eye witnesses said that Trayvon was on top of Zimmerman. Not that he gave Zimmerman one quick tap and then got off of him. I'm not sure how a person could end up with two black eyes, a fractured nose, a back injury, and lacerations on the back of his head from a guy who just tapped and stopped.
Once again, the EMTs on the scene didn't see any treatable injury?

I can't find the EMTs report, so don't know what they found.


Darkwing Duck wrote:
I know that the eye witnesses said that Trayvon was on top of Zimmerman. Not that he gave Zimmerman one quick tap and then got off of him. I'm not sure how a person could end up with two black eyes, a fractured nose, a back injury, and lacerations on the back of his head from a guy who just tapped and stopped.

I didn't say that. What I'm positing is this situation: for some reason, regardless of who provoked it, a struggle ensues. During the struggle, at SOME point Trayvon gets the upper hand and gets a few good shots on Zimmerman. Zimmerman cries for help repeatedly and curls into a ball. Trayvon gets up off Zimmerman and either backs completely off or stands over him (maybe kicking him). Zimmerman COULD run, but now he's angry (and possibly humiliated) so he pulls his piece and BLAM.

It's a possible scenario, but we don't know. It's also possible that GZ threw the first punch but TM dodged, or that GM drew his gun and TM saw that happening and jumped him. Who knows?

All the poor reporting you seem to (really REALLY want to) blame on racism on the part of the mainstream media, I chalk up to the laziness inherent in the current journalistic paradigm. If you're looking for racism, you'll see racism everywhere. If you're looking for the number 23, you'll see it everywhere. If you don't look for any single cause, you just see laziness and f%&$ups, and that's all I see.


meatrace wrote:
Darkwing Duck wrote:
I know that the eye witnesses said that Trayvon was on top of Zimmerman. Not that he gave Zimmerman one quick tap and then got off of him. I'm not sure how a person could end up with two black eyes, a fractured nose, a back injury, and lacerations on the back of his head from a guy who just tapped and stopped.

I didn't say that. What I'm positing is this situation: for some reason, regardless of who provoked it, a struggle ensues. During the struggle, at SOME point Trayvon gets the upper hand and gets a few good shots on Zimmerman. Zimmerman cries for help repeatedly and curls into a ball. Trayvon gets up off Zimmerman and either backs completely off or stands over him (maybe kicking him). Zimmerman COULD run, but now he's angry (and possibly humiliated) so he pulls his piece and BLAM.

It's a possible scenario, but we don't know. It's also possible that GZ threw the first punch but TM dodged, or that GM drew his gun and TM saw that happening and jumped him. Who knows?

All the poor reporting you seem to (really REALLY want to) blame on racism on the part of the mainstream media, I chalk up to the laziness inherent in the current journalistic paradigm. If you're looking for racism, you'll see racism everywhere. If you're looking for the number 23, you'll see it everywhere. If you don't look for any single cause, you just see laziness and f$@*ups, and that's all I see.

I'm a libertarian. I'm predisposed to see laziness and f$@*ups in any organization. That's typically my first instinct. But that's not what we see here. We're more prone to seeing news of alleged white racism than we are of the reverse. When was the last time you heard anything about a case like Duke University, Benjamin Gates, or Trayvon Martin but where the blacks were portrayed in the media as the racists? I just did a Google on news reports regarding the vigilanteism of the New Black Panther society and Martin. I found little.


Darkwing Duck wrote:
I'm a libertarian. I'm predisposed to see laziness and f$@*ups in any organization. That's typically my first instinct. But that's not what we see here. We're more prone to seeing news of alleged white racism than we are of the reverse. When was the last time you heard anything about a case like Duke University, Benjamin Gates, or Trayvon Martin but where the blacks were portrayed in the media as the racists? I just did a Google on news reports regarding the vigilanteism of the New Black Panther society and Martin. I found little.

I heard about almost nothing BUT the NBP around the mid-term elections. Is it even possible, in your mind, that it doesn't see media attention because it doesn't happen nearly as much? Also, you mustn't ever listen to conservative talk radio or watch Fox News because they do that all the damn time.

Again, though, I don't see as this case has anything to do with race. You can keep insisting that it does, and that everyone involved is or isn't racist, or that the courts are racist in favor of/against GZ or TM, I just don't see any of that. I genuinely don't think racism was a significant factor on any side of it, but it IS just part of American culture and the way we're divided culturally.


meatrace wrote:
Again, though, I don't see as this case has anything to do with race.

I'd like to know what your standards are for reaching such a decision when the media has focused on race since the story broke.


Darkwing Duck wrote:
meatrace wrote:
Again, though, I don't see as this case has anything to do with race.
I'd like to know what your standards are for reaching such a decision when the media has focused on race since the story broke.

You're clearly watching the wrong media? Again, I literally never heard Zimmerman referred to as white. The media has been focused on the minutiae of the details of that night, the autopsy findings, and the function of the stand your ground law, from what I've heard. But I only listen to liberal talk radio so...


You NPR junkie, you!


Darkwing Duck wrote:
1.) Assuming BNW's maps are legit (a pretty big assumption, but I'll make it for the sake of discussion)

Oh knock it off.


Darkwing Duck wrote:
But, I'm going to hold off on judgement until we have actual evidence.

Ahahahahaha, yeah, that's exactly what you're doing. The compartmentalization is astounding.


If you get technical, I'm black hispanic. My uncle(mother's brother) is far more black hispanic than I am. I have a friend who is white but Spanish(from Ibiza), and another friend who is actually white hispanic (from Brazil). It's a weird, weird spectrum.

Darkwing Duck wrote:
meatrace wrote:

I didn't say it didn't happen, just that I never heard that. That wasn't where I heard about the story, and I wasn't colored by that concept of happenings whatsoever, so I (understandably) don't like being painted with that brush.

Also, by the time this thread WAS STARTED, there was no dispute about Zimmerman's race, so even suggesting that people here thought he was white is so ridiculously disingenuous...

There's -still- dispute over his race. Is he "white Hispanic" (whatever the hell that means), "Hispanic", "white"? The link I posted to just a few posts back is to a transcript that was still calling him "white" AFTER this thread started.


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Darkwing Duck wrote:
meatrace wrote:
Darkwing Duck wrote:
meatrace wrote:


I have, no joke, had worse injuries from slipping on ice in my backyard

Did that ice keep beating you without you having any idea when it was going to stop?

You don't know that Trayvon DIDN'T stop before he was shot. You don't know that Trayvon started the fight. Stop acting like you do.

But yes, in effect, it did. I broke an ankle really bad, and after screaming for like 10 minutes for help tried to stand up and hobble home. I don't know if you've ever tried to hop a half a block home on slick ice, but it's HRRRD! I think I would up with a sprained wrist and a concussion, as well as severe bruising on my backside.

I know that the eye witnesses said that Trayvon was on top of Zimmerman. Not that he gave Zimmerman one quick tap and then got off of him. I'm not sure how a person could end up with two black eyes, a fractured nose, a back injury, and lacerations on the back of his head from a guy who just tapped and stopped.

One serious punch to the bridge of the nose, breaking it, will blacken your eyes and could put you on the ground, cracking your head on the sidewalk. But then again, I wasn't there.

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Darkwing Duck wrote:
meatrace wrote:


Wow. Just wow. How do you figure he was brutally attacked?

Since when do a fractured nose, two black eyes, a minor back injury, and head lacerations count as only "a couple of scratches"?

I've NEVER heard of a fractured nose described as "a couple of scratches", let alone that other stuff.

Well, when you chase a guy around a corner down a dark alley after following him for at least the length of a football field, perhaps you may appear threatening to the person you've been chasing...

You think?

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