What comic book character(s) do you wish would stay dead?


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In slight opposition to the idea of this thread (sorry): Nate Grey, the X-Man*, had a really goofy death. Yeah it was for a noble purpose and all, but... meh. He'd defeated godlike entities less than two comics earlier, and thus makes his actual "end" (which "sort of wasn't, which is also slightly goofy) all the more questionable. Why, yes, he was my favorite, and yes, I did have a subscription that Marvel cancelled without refund the month before the last issue (#75) released without telling me, even though I'm a total fanboy and had every issue he'd ever appeared in from any series ever up until that point (to the best of my knowledge), why do you ask?

In a positive spin, though, I loved his "quasi-return" in the Dark Avengers storyline. I honestly have no idea what was going on in and around that storyline, as I just picked up those because I heard, "Nate's in it." and... it was pretty awesome. He was clever, smart, and played a really, really good party trick.

One of the things with some of the dead creatures could do is have appearances and impacts like that. Not identical events, of course, but that might allow them to 'stay dead', but still allow them to appear periodically. Stories could also be told of their exploits "before"... this would allow fans to follow their favorites, but also allow the apparent revolving door to not be so revolving.

Also: dudes. Jean's died twice. That's it, from what I recall, with one resurrection**. I don't get the uber-hate. Cyclops has had that many resurrections. Cyclops.

Also, also, Zombieneighbours' link is hilarious (the "NSFW" is, I'm pretty sure, due to curse words, fyi, but it's Youtube, so nothing too strenuous.)

(Also, also, also, technically the Beyonder is "the most resurected, drama-killing, god-like character ever", as he's come back several times "from the dead", from his own experimentation no less. Also he's boring, has bad fashion sense, and terrible lines. And, you know, he's kind of literally a god (or something akin to it). Galactus is pretty up there, though, as might be Franklin Richards. :D Please be aware that I'm just kind of goofing around, here!)

* X-Man, singular, because that was the name of his series and he was never part of the "X-Men" team, even though he kind of met up with them once. It... didn't end well. And that technically wasn't his fault.

** Please seriously do let me know if I'm missing any.

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Tacticslion,

After the Dark Avengers arc, he showed up in the second half of the New Mutants run. I can't recommend them though.


... I'm sorry to hear that it wasn't any good. :(

... it's good to know that he's still boppin' around. :)

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Matthew Morris wrote:

Inspired by the other thread.

Not becasue "I hate character X" but because they had a 'good death' their storyline was told, etc etc.

Like I mentioned in the other thread, Eric Masterson. As much as I love the character* His story was done and he died in a heroic way.

Jean Grey. But, I'm liking her in New X-Men. The only other character I wish would stay dead, once he is, is Scott Summers.


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None. This psychosis comic book fans have with wanting dead hero characters to stay dead is very strange to me. Villains come back all the fricking time and no one blinks an eye. But if a hero comes back, everybody flips out.
You know what needs to die and stay dead? This double standard.


GM Elton wrote:
The only other character I wish would stay dead, once he is, is Scott Summers.

I think Marvel is perfectly aware of how much of an unlikeable dick Cyclops is and is keeping him alive and well just to spite the readers.

magnuskn wrote:

None. This psychosis comic book fans have with wanting dead hero characters to stay dead is very strange to me. Villains come back all the fricking time and no one blinks an eye. But if a hero comes back, everybody flips out.

You know what needs to die and stay dead? This double standard.

You may notice that the title of the thread says "character(s)" not "heroes".

Villains are characters too.


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Which changes absolutely nothing about the substance of my complaint.


But it has nothing to do with the thread. Pretty sure some people in the thread have even suggested villains they'd like to be killed/stay dead.

Just kinda seems like an out of place post.

I for one WOULD like some iconic villains to be killed off, mostly the minor ones, but some of the major "nemesis" types could do with a good offing too IMO.


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Oh, please. This thread was derailed three posts into its existance, when suddenly people decided that they wanted to list characters they just want to die.

My post actually is on topic. I don't want characters to stay dead, because I despise the double standard people have between heroes and villains. Comic book deaths are overrated anyway. Nowadays, having a hero die is just another notch on the checklist for a big crossover, of which at least two happen per year at Marvel.

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I wish the Joker would stay dead, to be honest.

Ooh, another one that (I think) has stayed dead, at least in 616, Skurge. Who again, had an awesome death.


Rynjin wrote:
GM Elton wrote:
The only other character I wish would stay dead, once he is, is Scott Summers.
I think Marvel is perfectly aware of how much of an unlikeable dick Cyclops is and is keeping him alive and well just to spite the readers.

You know, the sad thing is that he wasn't always. In fact, he used to be really neat, and one of my preferred X-Men (his power wasn't great at all, being boring and unpleasant, but I liked his character). After Stan Lee left, though, he just kind of spiraled downward and never seemed to recover any of the awesome traits I used to love or warping them into traits I hated, becoming entirely unpleasant.

I second the Joker... sort of. For the most part, resurrections are over-rated and the Joker is so awful, I'd appreciate it if his death was actually... you know, death. On the other hand, Batman Beyond had probably the coolest 'resurrection' story ever to involve the Joker and I do love Mark Hammill's voice (granted, that's not comics, but still).

As far as deaths v. resurrections... I kind of think the series should have some 'passes' at death on occasion. I also don't think that death/rebirth should be nearly as common as it seems in comics.

I also approve of the occasional reboot to start over, with a new take, and enjoy.

I don't really like the way DC has done it with in-universe "no more parallel universes... oh, except for ALL OF THESES!". I'm actually kind of cool with Marvel's take (complete with numbered universes and all), so long as they don't go too crazy with it. I enjoyed the Ultimates for a while (at least Spiderman and a few others; the X-Men all started out as jerks in that series), and I like the Parallel worlds concept. I do kind of wish there weren't so many ways 'through', though. Keep the worlds a little more separate.

I do hate Marvel's One More Day, though; not because they brought back Aunt May, at all, but because it sucks, and is made of equal parts evil, stupid, out-of-character, and suck. Seriously? Aunt May? Wouldn't he have chosen, you know, his own missing daughter that may or may not be dead/killed as a part of a scientific experiment that they just kind of dropped because Marvel had no idea what to do with the Maximum Clonage line and AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaarrgggggg...

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... uh, what were we talking about?

Oh, right, so, yeah. The Osbornes also need to be dead forever.


Ah. I wasn't around for that.

I grew up on the X-Men cartoon in the 90's (where he was a dick, but at least not a massive one), and some of the comics in the early 2000's along with the live action films (where he was still a dick). Since then I've seen his appearances in the comics off and on (I don't read them much) and he seems even worse there, if anything.

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I always liked Cyclops because he seemed like a grown-up, while Wolverine came off as the 'toxic friend.' Whether its team sports or tabletop games, it seems that every group has some bitter jerk making snarky comments and doing his own thing and undermining the success of the group by trying to undercut the 'leader.' He generally is someone who doesn't even *want* to be leader, and might be terrible at it, if thrust into that situation, since he avoids responsibility (or making plans, or considering what others want) like the plague, but he will do or say whatever he can to screw with whoever did step up and take that responsibility. (He was 'Eric the Cavalier' from the D&D cartoon!)

Growing up, I wanted to be the team player, and not the moody outcast. I also kinda liked that Cyclops, since he was fifteen, always seemed to be in a relationship with the most desirable mutant hottie on the planet, while Wolverine seemed like a bashful schoolboy with Mariko, who'd never kissed a girl (and who, if he did, she died 20 minutes later). Pretty much anything I associated with maturity as a teen, including getting with the girls, Cyclops had down cold, and Wolverine failed at.

I just re-read the Dark Phoenix saga the other day, and gosh, the amount of thought balloons devoted to explaining the characters powers every single issue was ridiculous, but, at the same time, we got to see, every single issue, how Cyclops was concerned for the safety of everyone, how he was *arguing with Professor X to treat Wolverine like a grownup* and so forth, made me remember what a great character he used to be. Here he was, arguing with his mentor / father figure, to cut Wolverine, a guy who undercut him at every turn, some slack.

Even as late as the movie, where Wolverine is oh-so-maturely flashing a 'middle finger' with his claws at him, and he just smiles and shrugs it off, Cyclops comes off as a much more adult character.

But, like Reed Richards post Civil War (how does one come back from sending supervillain cape-killers to capture or kill one's wife, because she sided with Captain America?), the latest character regression of Cyclops is gonna take some sort of clone saga or alternate universe shenanigans to 'fix.' (I suspect that him being killed and replaced by his new younger self might be in the cards, 'cause some stink don't wash off.)


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Doors. They keep busting them down.. Then they show up later. Even worse, they show up in OTHER comics.

WHY IS IT SO HARD TO KILL OFF DOORS!?!?!

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