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Jim Groves wrote:
Me (aghast): "Hey Nineteen- where the hellll am I?????"

Hey Nineteen was Steely Dan, heretic! David Bowie would never be caught dead singing such a song (except maybe when he was in Tin Machine...)

Contributor, RPG Superstar 2010 Top 4

Mark Moreland wrote:
Jim Groves wrote:
Me (aghast): "Hey Nineteen- where the hellll am I?????"
Hey Nineteen was Steely Dan, heretic! David Bowie would never be caught dead singing such a song (except maybe when he was in Tin Machine...)

I know. Heh. I wanted to see if anybody would catch it.

Plus Hey Nineteen's theme sums up how I feel when someone says they never heard of David Bowie.

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Guys, you're getting away from what this thread is supposed to be about. This:

Doug Miles wrote:

It's kind of funny how Kyle is becoming an urban legend in PFS...

Did you guys hear that Kyle collects the character sheets from all the PCs he kills that aren't Raised and pins them on his bedroom ceiling? He said that it helps him go to sleep happy and wake up with a purpose. Many times he doesn't even need to roll the damage, players just accept the inevitable and hand him their character sheets.

Trisha doesn't let me use pins, I have to use poster putty.

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Jiggy wrote:
Doug Miles wrote:
It's kind of funny how Kyle is becoming an urban legend in PFS...
I can't describe my terror when I realized I was fighting the creature from which he gets his messageboard avatar.

I can't even begin to tell you how much this make me smile!

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Mark Moreland wrote:
Kyle Baird wrote:
Even at 3 a.m. when I nudge you awake from your dreams of Wicked coming to Seattle?
Those aren't just dreams! Not only is it coming to Seattle, but it'll be here for over a month (Oct 10-Nov 17). link.

Buy tickets already?

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Doug Miles wrote:
Actually Greg Vaughan got the idea for that creature from Kyle's baby pictures. He was very colic-y... Kyle, not Greg.

This is correct.

Liberty's Edge *

Jim Groves wrote:

Re: Moody Blues. Hehe, me too. I was too embarrassed to admit it.

David Bowie too (who Mark likes).

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The other day I said to somebody: "He got that promotion and went all Ziggy Stardust on us."

Other Person: "What?!? Ziggy who"

My uncle swears this is a true story and told it back in the 80s. It since seems to have become an urban legand kinda thing, and he lies for humorous effect, so you'll have to decide on your own.

He's in a record store looking at Abba records or something else sorted under "garbage" and overhears the following conversation:

Girl 1: "Oh. My. Gawd. Paul McCartney."

Girl 2: "Paul McCartney? Who's that?"

Girl 2: "You know...he used to be in Wings."

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Kyle, sorry for the threadjack. I return you now to the true purpose of this thread.

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Howie23 wrote:
Kyle, sorry for the threadjack. I return you now to the true purpose of this thread.

I'm not sure what that is any more. We can always define a new purpose? How about making it a thread about banning PFRPG stuff we don't like in PFS? That'd be original!

* Star Voter 2013

It's too bad you guys are derailing this thread so badly, the issue is just going to rear it's head again and again.

If Feral wants to put tight restrictions on his private/home game, it's his choice. You gotta admire him being proactive about it, instead of just b&&&*ing about it (and having certain builds ruin his table), at least he is doing something about it.
**This has inspired me to have all Gnome parties in the future, because I can.

Bob, just because you don't like his preferences/restrictions, doesn't give you the right to call it a non-PFS group. You're going too far.

I'm personally interested in seeing his list (and he can send it via email if he likes), because I'm curious about what PC builds that have caused problems. My home group is almost 100% core rulebook only, so I don't have to deal with strange builds.

Let me start: Synthesist Summoner. Having a 50+ Str and doing 500 points of damage per round (with Pounce) at level 13 is obnoxious. Maybe it's been nerfed (I don't even care to look), but at Gencon 2011 it was obnoxious and made me want to throw up.

Liberty's Edge ****

Thanks for trying to get things back on track Jason.

We're still working on nailing the details down. I'll post them somewhere and link this thread when they're done.

Grand Lodge ** RPG Superstar 2012 Top 32 , Marathon Voter 2013, Dedicated Voter 2014

Jason S wrote:
It's too bad you guys are derailing this thread so badly, the issue is just going to rear it's head again and again.

What's wrong with derailing a thread whose primary topic has been resolved?

Across multiple threads, Mike and Mark have made it clear that you can put extra restrictions on your private PFS games if you want. What's still unresolved?

Liberty's Edge ****

The primary topic wasn't about the validity of what was being discussed.

Me wrote:

In light of Brock's ruling allowing group-level bans I started working with my local group to create a banlist and a sort of group "gaming constitution".

This is going to include everything from banned/limited classes and archetypes, to feats and spells, to general rules about behavior/attendance/DMing expectations.

Has anyone else considered such a thing? If so, would you mind sharing?

Grand Lodge ** RPG Superstar 2012 Top 32 , Marathon Voter 2013, Dedicated Voter 2014

Feral wrote:

The primary topic wasn't about the validity of what was being planning.

Me wrote:

In light of Brock's ruling allowing group-level bans I started working with my local group to create a banlist and a sort of group "gaming constitution".

This is going to include everything from banned/limited classes and archetypes, to feats and spells, to general rules about behavior/attendance/DMing expectations.

Has anyone else considered such a thing? If so, would you mind sharing?

That's the issue that Jason's worried will rear its head again and again?

Sovereign Court *****

I'm worried that Feral will rear his ugly head again and again. :-)

Liberty's Edge ****

Oh Gilded Goblin, you wound me so.

Did you want me to add Thug rogues to my list? =P

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Feral wrote:
Did you want me to add Thug rogues to my list? =P

Shouldn't you be doing something more fun on your Birthday than making lists?

Liberty's Edge ****

Are you kidding? I love making lists!

Dark Archive *** Venture-Captain, Washington—Seattle aka Big Kyle

This thread appears to be made of win...

I approve!

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Kyle Elliott wrote:

This thread appears to be made of win...

I approve!

All we need now is a third Kyle to come in here and make it official!

*scans around for a Pratt*

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Kyle Baird wrote:
Kyle Elliott wrote:

This thread appears to be made of win...

I approve!

All we need now is a third Kyle to come in here and make it official!

*scans around for a Pratt*

Huh what? I think I'm making something official!

Shadow Lodge ***** Venture-Captain, Michigan—Alma

Yeah, the Krazy Kyle Konvention. ;)

Scarab Sages *****

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Damn you dirty Kyles!!!!

Grand Lodge ***** Venture-Captain, Illinois—Decatur aka TwilightKnight

Jason S wrote:
Bob, just because you don't like his preferences/restrictions, doesn't give you the right to call it a non-PFS group. You're going too far.

Wait, what?!? I'm not calling anything non-PFS. I am endorsing the right of the GM to make whatever restriction s/he wants (above and beyond the published guidelines) regardless of public or private venue and still call it PFS. Am I not understanding your comment?

Shadow Lodge **

Why would you try and force a situation on a GM which he clearly won't enjoy? Seems like a recipe for alienating GMs and drives them away from making public game invites entirely. Making a big stink here only makes the Online Collective a less appealing as a venue for GMs.

Having players send in their characters and picking from them is a good workaround and is apparently the officially blessed way, but personally I don't see anything wrong with the original GM's request for a summoner free table.


Dump the lists. Drink heavily on your bday!

Grand Lodge **** Dedicated Voter 2013

Getting back to Feral's original post, this is probably what I'd stick in place as my PFS home rules:

-GM can add mooks if he likes.
-GM can and will 'get creative' with what happens in the module.
-No Synthesists or Master Summoners.
-No Double Hackbuts.
-Double Barrel Musket range extends to 30ft instead of 10ft.
-You can shoot locks without requiring the grit ability.
-Magical Knack works in home games!
-No PCs tinkering with large weapon builds. You can have a large weapon in fluff, but not in crunch. Enlarge Person delights are still fine.

Scarab Sages *****

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KestlerGunner wrote:
Getting back to Feral's original post, this is probably what I'd stick in place as my PFS home rules:

Based on what Mike Posted on what a Private game can cannot do, some of those you cannot do..

Michael Brock wrote:
This DOES NOT mean you can run an official PFS game with fewer restrictions than are outlined in the Organized Play Guide or other campaign documentation. For example, you can not run an evil character, you can not use Words of Power or Hero Points, or any other specific rules that are not permitted in the campaign.

1. Cannot do

2. Unsure what you mean by "get Creative"
3. this one is fine
4. this one is fine
5. Cannot do *Though I still expect an errata on that*
6. Cannot do
7. Cannot do
8. this one is fine

Dark Archive ***** Venture-Lieutenant, Florida—Tampa aka Dominick

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My list:

1) Taco launcher special ability is banned for pole arms.
2) Druids players must wear horns at the table
3) Druids must not play a pan flute at the table.
4) Players may not use diminutive weapons
5) Halflings who have enlarge on them must call themselves full-lings
6) NCOs are permitted at private games, but officers must attend officer games.
7) Gnome punting is allowed only if the gnome is wearing a reflective safety vest, has a glitter dust on them, or had light cast on their head. Please return your punted gnome to the full and upright position.
8) All Kegs must be either Yuengling or full of sunshine and smiles.

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Dominick wrote:
Awesome list.

I would to reserve a spot at your table good sir!

Grand Lodge ** RPG Superstar 2012 Top 32 , Marathon Voter 2013, Dedicated Voter 2014

KestlerGunner wrote:

Getting back to Feral's original post, this is probably what I'd stick in place as my PFS home rules:

-GM can add mooks if he likes.
-GM can and will 'get creative' with what happens in the module.
-No Synthesists or Master Summoners.
-No Double Hackbuts.
-Double Barrel Musket range extends to 30ft instead of 10ft.
-You can shoot locks without requiring the grit ability.
-Magical Knack works in home games!
-No PCs tinkering with large weapon builds. You can have a large weapon in fluff, but not in crunch. Enlarge Person delights are still fine.

Mike said you can add extra restrictions, not repeal existing rules.

I hope you weren't planning on going around saying "But Mike said I could!" without actually reading what he said.

Sovereign Court ****

I'm hopelessly lost in the sea of USA-centered insider jokes, well not exactly in the sea, more like far from the sea. Cursed be the large watery puddle some call the Atlantic ocean.

Since the point of the thread took an entirely different direction, I feel like I need to contribute to this senseless rabble of off-topic cackle.

This be quite off-topic:

Curiosity #1: I nearly always read his name "Kyle Beard". Thusly I always see the avatar having a grand, hellishly red beard. I've gathered he is nearly always drunk, yet it has to be confirmed.

Curiosity #2: There is no Mark Moreland, there is only yoda8myhead.

Curiosity #3: No one seems to like Dragnmoon, yet the reasons are shrouded in mystery.

Curiosity #4: I almost always agree with deusvult, and I bet it has something to do with the similarity in screen names...

Curiosity #5: Bob Jonquet would most likely be the next candidate for head of PFS (the cycle is inevitable!), judging by his formal messages and mysterious avatar.

Oh, and I don't see why a gunslinger couldn't shoot a lock without utility shot.

Scarab Sages *****

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To help clear things up for Deussu

Spoiler:
#1 Very accurate
#2 I now see Mark as Mark
#3 I am part of a secret society that is trying to stop the Mind Washing of the VCs, I reported this in this thread. Since coming out with this information there has been an organized effort by those VCs that have been brain-washed, and their minions to discredit me. I am actually a very lovable guy.
#4 deusvult it not correct as often as I am.
#5 We would make Bob cry his first day on that job.

And sure they can, it just would not be automatic, you would need to use the rules for damaging items.

Liberty's Edge *****

In response to DMoon's responses:

#1 Personally, Im fond of when he posts as 'Care Baird'. Makes me lol every time. Not really sure why, but I think it's the mixture of his fearsome reputation with that avatar.

#2 I've never met Mark in person, but I expect he looks much like his avatar. If not, I dont think I will recognize him at Gencon.

#3 Do not believe the poster known as 'Dragnmoon'. He is malicious and hateful. The VCs do no wrong. Would you like some Kool-Aid?

#4 This is also false.

#5 *Prepares the Kool-Aid fills injection needle for DMoon*.

I'm not fond of the shooting the lock thing either. :/

Paizo Employee ***** Global Organized Play Coordinator

Removed a post that appears to be trolling.

Scarab Sages

Wait ...

Also a bit off topic:
There's no such thing as Mark?!! Mark is YODA8MYHEAD?!!! That explains *SO* much!! (In addition to why I haven't seen yoda in AGES!)
And yet, sort of makes me like Mark all the more ... land.

Grand Lodge **** Dedicated Voter 2013

lol.

Silver Crusade ****

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W. Kristoph Nolen wrote:
Wait ... ** spoiler omitted **

You're a punny fellow you know. :P

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