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Microbrews...


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Being from the Midwest, I was wondering what microbrews are out there and which ones people would recommend trying. The wife and I are heading to Seattle after the con for a few days if that makes a difference.

Thanks.


Beerwolf,

Oregon/Pacific Northwest have so many great microbrews, listing them all could soon become tiresome.

But if there were a few I would not want to miss:

Full Sail Brewery's Top Sail -- an imperial porter aged in bourbon casks. Not to be missed! Anything by Full Sail is not a bad fallback by the way.

Green Flash is actually from California but don't let that stop you. Their IPA (if you like that sort of thing) is world class. And their barley wine is all toffee and magic sunshine. I'll take another please.

If you don't mind a weird one -- the Cascade Kriek Ale -- a modern pseudo lambic brewed right here in Oregon. Delicious!

Rogue Brewery is also an easy recommend especially their Chatoe Rogue Single Malt Ale. There's a whole lot of yum in that snooty beer!

Anyways, just a few recommendations of the top of my head.

I will be at PaizoCon of course and though I may bring a little beer, I will mostly be surrounded by single malt scotch. Because...well, scotch needs no reason.

Gary McBride
Fire Mountain Games

Paizo Employee Global Organized Play Coordinator

Red Hook Brewery. The tour is $1, you get 6-7 samples during the tour, and the restaurant is pretty darn tasty as well. It is in Woodinville, about 15 minutes from Redmond.


Gary and Mike.

Thanks for the information, I'm looking forward to trying your recommendations. My wife and I are excited about the con and also finally making it out to the northwest coast area.


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Even closer to the convention site is the Black Raven Brewery -- probably some of the best brews in the state.

CJ
WA VC

Liberty's Edge

Malt and Vine is within walking distance from the con. Excellent bottle shop with a number of beers on tap. Not to be missed!

http://maltandvine.com/

I also second Black Raven - one of the best.

Paizo Employee Associate Editor

And don't forget: http://www.seattlebeerfest.com/


My mouth is already watering!

Thanks all for the information. I'm forming a tactical plan.

Dark Archive

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Oh wow.

Welcome to the headland of the microbrew trade! I am originally from Minnesota and love leine's but the PAC NW is the godsend for beer lovers.
Do yourself a favor and check out the following..

1. Churchkey- awesomeness!
2. Mac and Jack - PAC NW kegs only!
3. Iron horse brewery. I live in Ellensburg and will be bringing my growlers full of Irish death to the Con!
4. Alaskan Amber. It wasn't in MN when I lived there. I had to have it shipped special.

Oh I could go on forever. Widmer, rogue, weinhards, full sail, red hook, pyramid etc

See you at the con!

Shadow Lodge

Ahh yes... another of my favorite loves. Also being from the Midwest, there's some fantastic local drinks I'll share. I'm a little biased towards a good dark beer though.

Schlafly Irish-Style Extra Stout, 8% with no taste of alcohol, this is an amazing dark, thick, rich stout.

Millstream's Back Roads Stout, a mid-level strength stout that has a wonderful taste of chocolate. One of my all time faves.

Sam Adam's Oktoberfest, Boulevard's Dark Truth and their Irish ale also hit my top list.

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So people have mentioned Black Raven which I'm totally plusting. That place is awesome. No food, strictly brew but pizza can be ordered and all of the black raven brews are made in house right there. You can sit next to their brewing equipment. Tamarlane Brown Ale and the Trickster IPA are must tries.

Rogue Brewery has a brewpub in issaquah which is a fairly long drive but somewhat worthwhile. I'm not a huge fan of their beer but many people are and their food is overpriced but tasty so maybe worth it?

MacAndJacks is apparently in redmond as well, though I've never been there. You will see it at a lot of local restaurants and it's fairly tasty stuff.

Redhook is a short trip to woodenville. I'm not sure how it's changed since they got bought a few years back or if it's even considered a micro brew anymore. That said, it used to be that you could go there and make a 24 pack for 24 dollars... that was a pretty good deal. They also make a nitro stout float that was really nice and their brewpub is overpriced but fairly tasty, much like rogues.

LazyBoy is apparently close by but I'm not sure where or if they have a taproom like black raven(well noone has a taproom like black raven but you know what I mean.)

Malt and Vine was also mentioned. This is a no brainer. It is a quick walk from the hotel at paizocon, filled with over a 100 different bottled varieties, you can get a growler of anything they have on tap, which is about 16 or so taps estimating including I think at least one nitro though I think it's a double tap, and they are right next to Gyros 2 Go which will make a gyro that is bursting with tasty meat(ask for extra tzatziki though, they never put enough on). There taps usually include one of the black raven ales as well(usually the trickster IPA), sometimes two. They usually have a barley wine. They usually have 2 or 3 belgian varietals. They usually have a one or two more local ones as well. On top of all that, they also have a good selection of mead and port and a small collection of wine. You can have a glass and bring food in or have it delivered there as well. It's only problem is it's a tad small. Otherwise, it's paradise on earth.

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Also, I thought I'd add, my favorite bar in the area, the Three Lions. It's an english pub where they serve delicious meat pies, awesome fries(not for vegetarians) and the best hot wings in seattle(though served with sour cream and carrots instead of blue cheese dressing and celery). But more to the topic at hand, they have a good collection of ales and beers from the UK. Nitro Guinness and, my favorite, Old Speckled Hen, as well as the usual suspects. And they can make a decent snakebite and they have some blackcurrent cordial behind the bar that you can have them add for a snakebite and black. And next door is the english pantry, full of uk imported foods, pottery, and other weirdness as well as the bakery for their meat pies and other bakery items(all about the eccles). And next to that is their restaurant where on fridays and saturdays, they have a pretty roast beef and yorkshire pudding.


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Now you have perked my interest.

The Three Lions has been added as a stop, along with getting a growler of what's on tap at Malt and Vine.

Has Paizo thought about adding a Pathfinder Pub Crawl to a list of offered events?

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Steve Shippy aka Beerwolf wrote:

Now you have perked my interest.

The Three Lions has been added as a stop, along with getting a growler of what's on tap at Malt and Vine.

Has Paizo thought about adding a Pathfinder Pub Crawl to a list of offered events?

That's the thing, there aren't a ton of pubs in redmond that are close to each other. You'd be much better organizing that for down town on capital hill or something. I can think of....6, but they are extremely spread out. Redmond is very walkable but even that's a lot of walking. Cap hill, downtown in seattle has a couple of dozen in comparison a walkable distance from each other, 2 of which are actually spirit distilleries. =) If I were organizing a pub crawl I'd probably say, best idea is to do it downtown before paizocon proper. =)


Not that I'll be able to afford making the transatlantic flight this year, but this thread's got me curious. How are things for a cider-drinker in Seattle?

Please tell me I wouldn't have to make do with the kind of sweet, variously non-apple flavoured alcopops Swedish breweries persist in calling cider.

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Kajehase wrote:

Not that I'll be able to afford making the transatlantic flight this year, but this thread's got me curious. How are things for a cider-drinker in Seattle?

Please tell me I wouldn't have to make do with the kind of sweet, variously non-apple flavoured alcopops Swedish breweries persist in calling cider.

Malt and Vine has an extensive list of bottled ciders and some lambics mixed in. I want to say it's about two doors worth. There are some lovely dry ciders as well as some more ale type ciders, the traditional american ciders of which woodchuck is really good. I'm quite fond of magners and there used to be a pub that had it on tap in the area but they stopped serving it about 6 years back(though you can still get it in the bottle.) Three Lions serves a Strongbow on tap that is very decent(though not terribly dry) and I like mine half cider and half fine ale with a shot of black currant cordial (variation of a snake bite that I was first introduced to). Though, surprisingly, not a ton of local ciders. There is a local cider press that sometimes sells fresh pressed still cider that's about to go off(and is consequently less still), and when I say that I mean it's usually fermenting with the proper wild yeasts to make a decent cider. It's actually really tasty but also very sweet because it's not been aged but about 2 weeks in a fridge. =P Sadly, usually only available around october. My suggestion for an alcoholic cider is either take your chances at three lions and get the strongbow on tap or if you're really hard core and don't have the time, grab a few different bottles from malt and vine until you find one you like.


Ninkasi and anything from Fort George Brewery.


Lissa Guillet wrote:
Kajehase wrote:

Not that I'll be able to afford making the transatlantic flight this year, but this thread's got me curious. How are things for a cider-drinker in Seattle?

Please tell me I wouldn't have to make do with the kind of sweet, variously non-apple flavoured alcopops Swedish breweries persist in calling cider.

Malt and Vine has an extensive list of bottled ciders and some lambics mixed in. I want to say it's about two doors worth. There are some lovely dry ciders as well as some more ale type ciders, the traditional american ciders of which woodchuck is really good. I'm quite fond of magners and there used to be a pub that had it on tap in the area but they stopped serving it about 6 years back(though you can still get it in the bottle.) Three Lions serves a Strongbow on tap that is very decent(though not terribly dry) and I like mine half cider and half fine ale with a shot of black currant cordial (variation of a snake bite that I was first introduced to). Though, surprisingly, not a ton of local ciders. There is a local cider press that sometimes sells fresh pressed still cider that's about to go off(and is consequently less still), and when I say that I mean it's usually fermenting with the proper wild yeasts to make a decent cider. It's actually really tasty but also very sweet because it's not been aged but about 2 weeks in a fridge. =P Sadly, usually only available around october. My suggestion for an alcoholic cider is either take your chances at three lions and get the strongbow on tap or if you're really hard core and don't have the time, grab a few different bottles from malt and vine until you find one you like.

Thanks a lot.

Liberty's Edge Marathon Voter 2014

Will Jason's brew be ready by then?


Steve Shippy aka Beerwolf wrote:

Now you have perked my interest.

The Three Lions has been added as a stop, along with getting a growler of what's on tap at Malt and Vine.

Has Paizo thought about adding a Pathfinder Pub Crawl to a list of offered events?

I love the Pub crawl idea. Done the ones in spokane,wa but never in seattle. As long as we can find our way back O.K... lol...Did I mention I like to drink beer.

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Bigg D wrote:
Steve Shippy aka Beerwolf wrote:

Now you have perked my interest.

The Three Lions has been added as a stop, along with getting a growler of what's on tap at Malt and Vine.

Has Paizo thought about adding a Pathfinder Pub Crawl to a list of offered events?

I love the Pub crawl idea. Done the ones in spokane,wa but never in seattle. As long as we can find our way back O.K... lol...Did I mention I like to drink beer.

If you are going to do a pub crawl, I'd actually suggest organizing it on capitol hill. It's over the water but there is good public transport and lots of great and interesting bars/pubs plus a Dick's Drive-in which is kind of an institution. Crystal and I both participated in the 1st annual tri-wizard pub crawl during pax which was organized on capitol hill and was a hoot(though we ended up not being able to spend the whole time there so we had to double on challenges...) There are now actually two spirit distilleries there which might be worth checking out. And one of my favorite bars in seattle is there as well, about three blocks from the Dick's Drive-in, the Stumbling Monk. Nothing beats a bag of Dick's(complete with all of the innuendo that eating a bag of Dick's comes with) for stumbling around half-drunk at 2 in the morning. It's also right next to a half price books with a fairly large rpg and comic section. There are a lot of gay friendly bars on capitol hill and they are really welcoming and nice guys and gals, so don't feel weird if you see the rainbow outside a bar that looks really cool. Chances are, it's really cool and will be pretty welcome. Also, around this area is Victrola, which sadly closes around 8, but if you want some true seattle coffee to start your bar crawl, that is the place to get it. I have two bags of the good stuff from victrola sitting at my desk right now. =P Also, in capitol hill, is molly moons. Not a bar or anything, just an ice cream shop but I will totally stab a guy for their salted caramel ice cream. Their ice creams are the best I've ever had anywhere and they go crazy with the flavors sometimes. Their vegan coconut chunk is AMAZING as well(made with coconut milk and theo's vegan dark chocolate) as is the honey lavender and stumptown coffee, but you can't really go wrong unless you just hate the flavor. Not entirely on topic but it's really worth a note.

If you do the pub crawl in downtown seattle, I don't know as much about the bars there. There is an English pub called the White Horse owned by an old army guy named Joe who spent some time in britain and wanted to recreate that feel. It's a book store and the bar is super cozy and easy to get into conversations with other people. I love it but I rarely get out there anymore. Also, the Zig Zag which is fairly famous for it's cocktail collection and 20 types of bitters. Also, the owl and thistle is a good place for food and beer and wine. Used to be you could get an entire wheel of fried brie for about 8 dollars and they had several bottles of nice whiskey. Pike's Place Brewery has a place downstairs but it's one of my least favorite of the local microbrews. Those guys LOVE their hops and I'm less of a fan. They usually have an IPA on nitro. If you like that kind of thing, don't miss out. =P Their food is spendy but better than average.

Other ideas might be to check out ballard which has a lot of interesting bars including the Mox which might have heard Jason or Erik or others talk about, plus card kingdom is a great place to find a lot of great hard to find games. Ballard has some good bars but the bussing to any fun areas is complicated. The only other place I know of of note in ballard is the jolly roger taproom which is a bar/eatery for maritime brewing. It's supposed to be neat and pirate themed, but I've not personally been.

Also, if you have a car and don't mind driving for ~45 minutes to get somewhere for drinking, you can go to the AFK tavern for awesome cocktails and less awesome food(my suggestion is stick to appetizers). It's spendy but they do a lot of fun drinks and have video game consoles and you could totally run some pfs scenarios there while drinking. But I'm not sure there is much of a place to crawl afterwards. =)

Dark Archive

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Lissa Guillet wrote:
Also, I thought I'd add, my favorite bar in the area, the Three Lions. It's an english pub where they serve delicious meat pies, awesome fries(not for vegetarians) and the best hot wings in seattle(though served with sour cream and carrots instead of blue cheese dressing and celery). But more to the topic at hand, they have a good collection of ales and beers from the UK. Nitro Guinness and, my favorite, Old Speckled Hen, as well as the usual suspects. And they can make a decent snakebite and they have some blackcurrent cordial behind the bar that you can have them add for a snakebite and black. And next door is the english pantry, full of uk imported foods, pottery, and other weirdness as well as the bakery for their meat pies and other bakery items(all about the eccles). And next to that is their restaurant where on fridays and saturdays, they have a pretty roast beef and yorkshire pudding.

Ah yes, many a night spent in the Three Lions when I lived on the West-Side. Man sometimes I miss the west side. We have some pretty good beer over here, (And Oktoberfest 50mins north in Leavenworth)After spending time on the coast in Cornwall, I can say that the Three Lions does an admirable job of emulating a traditional British pub.

BTW...If you get a chance, it is worth it to head east on Hwy 2 for a half day and visit our little German Hamlet of Leavenworth, it is a fun place to go, very authentic and awesome german food. Head there after the con.

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Warrant wrote:


Ah yes, many a night spent in the Three Lions when I lived on the West-Side. Man sometimes I miss the west side. We have some pretty good beer over here, (And Oktoberfest 50mins north in Leavenworth)After spending time on the coast in Cornwall, I can say that the Three Lions does an admirable job of emulating a traditional British pub.

BTW...If you get a chance, it is worth it to head east on Hwy 2 for a half day and visit our little German Hamlet of Leavenworth, it is a fun place to go, very authentic and awesome german food. Head there after the con.

Leavenworth is a fun trip. It's about three hours away from redmond but if you have some extra time before or after the con, it's a great day trip. Really touristy but a blast. If it's a nice enough day, I can't recommend floating down that river enough. Float the river, grab some pretty good german food and check out all the kitschy stores. The cheese shop is very nice as is the place with the fudge. And tons of good wine and german beer.


Lissa Guillet wrote:
Warrant wrote:


Ah yes, many a night spent in the Three Lions when I lived on the West-Side. Man sometimes I miss the west side. We have some pretty good beer over here, (And Oktoberfest 50mins north in Leavenworth)After spending time on the coast in Cornwall, I can say that the Three Lions does an admirable job of emulating a traditional British pub.

BTW...If you get a chance, it is worth it to head east on Hwy 2 for a half day and visit our little German Hamlet of Leavenworth, it is a fun place to go, very authentic and awesome german food. Head there after the con.

Leavenworth is a fun trip. It's about three hours away from redmond but if you have some extra time before or after the con, it's a great day trip. Really touristy but a blast. If it's a nice enough day, I can't recommend floating down that river enough. Float the river, grab some pretty good german food and check out all the kitschy stores. The cheese shop is very nice as is the place with the fudge. And tons of good wine and german beer.

LEavenworth made me curious so i googled it, and as a German I can tell you, it looks surprisingly genuine. A bavarian village does look like that and even the Biergarten pics could have been taken over here.

The Name, by the way, does sound like a (english speakers) phonetic spelling of "Lebenswert" which means "Worth living at"

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aeglos wrote:


LEavenworth made me curious so i googled it, and as a German I can tell you, it looks surprisingly genuine. A bavarian village does look like that and even the Biergarten pics could have been taken over here.

The Name, by the way, does sound like a (english speakers) phonetic spelling of "Lebenswert" which means "Worth living at"

Interesting. The main drag looks very much like that. The story for the town is actually really interesting as well. We have gone there for the past two years to float the river and do some camping with some friends and it's amazing and beautiful. Though, if you float the river, have some shoes. Crystal and I got washed away at one point trying to get to shore and we couldn't hold our ground in the fast current at the place we were pulling aside. I had breathed a little water so choking while we were being swept away and is probably the closest I've ever been to drowning. =P But, despite that, I went back the next year and it was a blast both times. Plus I got a cool story out of it.

I've heard that King Ludwigs is the place to go. Some might have other ideas. there's a nice fifties diner on the way there with tasty shakes and diner food as well that I can recommend. But the food, in general, has mostly been kind of mediocre and I really love me some schnitzel. I guess I always compare it to this german/bavarian restaurant we had where I grew up. The owner was a bavarian woman who was a close personal friend of my best friends mother and he worked there occasionally and she always made us strawberry cheesecake for special occasions. =) That said, lots of great brew, awesome atmosphere, great specialty shops, and kind of a unique experience outside of europe.

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Perhaps someday a future PaizoCon at one of the festhalls in Leavenworth.......? Kind of put a Bavarian medieval setting to the Con. What a time that would be! King Ludwigs has some pretty taster jagerschnitzel and some fun German folk music. I have had pretty tasty Spaetzle and Sauerbraaten at Cafe Mozart. Plus, Munchen Haus has some good bratwurst and beer (being from MN, I can definitely appreciate some good Brats!

Back to the brews. We should have quite the fun time at the con with all of the Northwest microbrews out here in Washington and Oregon. I have noticed a resurgence in canned micro-brews, with Churchkey actually going the Pop-top oldschool route, and Sierra Nevada Pale ale now launching in cans as well.

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Yeah and a lot of microbrews can be purchased right at malt and vine not 5 blocks from the hotel.


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Warrant wrote:

Perhaps someday a future PaizoCon at one of the festhalls in Leavenworth.......? Kind of put a Bavarian medieval setting to the Con. What a time that would be! King Ludwigs has some pretty taster jagerschnitzel and some fun German folk music. I have had pretty tasty Spaetzle and Sauerbraaten at Cafe Mozart. Plus, Munchen Haus has some good bratwurst and beer (being from MN, I can definitely appreciate some good Brats!

Back to the brews. We should have quite the fun time at the con with all of the Northwest microbrews out here in Washington and Oregon. I have noticed a resurgence in canned micro-brews, with Churchkey actually going the Pop-top oldschool route, and Sierra Nevada Pale ale now launching in cans as well.

Now that sounds like an awesome site for a PFS Game Day.

CJ
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thelesuit wrote:
Warrant wrote:

Perhaps someday a future PaizoCon at one of the festhalls in Leavenworth.......? Kind of put a Bavarian medieval setting to the Con. What a time that would be! King Ludwigs has some pretty taster jagerschnitzel and some fun German folk music. I have had pretty tasty Spaetzle and Sauerbraaten at Cafe Mozart. Plus, Munchen Haus has some good bratwurst and beer (being from MN, I can definitely appreciate some good Brats!

Back to the brews. We should have quite the fun time at the con with all of the Northwest microbrews out here in Washington and Oregon. I have noticed a resurgence in canned micro-brews, with Churchkey actually going the Pop-top oldschool route, and Sierra Nevada Pale ale now launching in cans as well.

Now that sounds like an awesome site for a PFS Game Day.

CJ
WA VC

I'm glad you volunteered to organize it Chris. :-) Go ahead and sign me up to GM a game.

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So just a minor update on this topic. Had a good evening at black raven... this... evening. >_> Anyway, it's changed a lot since the last time I've been there. Fully about three to four times the size and accommodates so many more people than it used to. Since I've been there, they've added another bar and about two other... well, about three times the space. They no longer invite you past the brewery to the patio, though that might change once the patio is open. Meanwhile, the space has expanded and flying saucer pizza still delivers to them(very personal pizza place).

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