What killed-off comic character do you most miss?


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Slaunyeh wrote:
For me it has to be War Witch from the original run of the City of Heroes comic. I really liked that character.

Yea. +1 on that one - it was real bummer when they ended that first series on that note.


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Supergirl - the first Linda Lee Danvers version. I like to give DC credit for trying to reinvent her a couple of times before the fully Crisis retcon. Also - that was a touching sacrifice in the mini-series.

I wanted to believe in the "new" Kara Zor-El, but it just comes off as Super Fan-Service Girl.

Infinity, Inc was a team book that was kind of interesting as well. The idea of a full team of legacy heroes was done in JSA, but the concept was really started in Infinity.


Fie on that. Love me some supergirl, did not care for the linda lee version- loved her sacrifice though, it was the only time I felt she was something other than a poorly written supermans cousin. LOVED her on the legion of super heroes team, wanted to see that become the norm.


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Chris Mortika wrote:
Kent Shakespeare.

Oh wow. That brings back memories.

LLL!

LONG LIVE THE LEGION!!!!!!!!!


Slaunyeh wrote:
For me it has to be War Witch from the original run of the City of Heroes comic. I really liked that character.

If it makes you feel any better, she was resurrected in one of the final (and best) story arcs in the City of Heroes MMO.

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Lian Harper.

Seriously, not cool, DC, not cool. Especially since the only reason to kill her was to thoroughly break Roy's character.


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I miss the old crude, rude, crass, beer-drinkin, cigar-smokin, lose his temper with the drop of a hat, Wolverine from the 70's and 80's. They took the essence of a great character, and in some respects watered him down to make him more kid-appealing, and in others, over-exaggerated him so they wouldn't lose other fans, depending on what book you were reading.

And Peter Parker, the ever Amazing Spider-Man. They should have left him and Mary Jane alone.

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Misroi wrote:

Lian Harper.

Seriously, not cool, DC, not cool. Especially since the only reason to kill her was to thoroughly break Roy's character.

Amen, I cheered when I saw her on Young Justice. One of my favourite Titans episodes is just him trying to get home to paint Liam's room.

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I never really got into Lian, but I did love how it changed Roy's character to have to be responsible, not just for himself, but because there was someone else counting on him now.

Plus the fun of the superhero being on a mission and talking into his communicator, "No honey. I don't believe that Mister Skootch put the waffles in the VCR." "Why?" "Because Mister Skootch is a stuffed animal, and daddy's not quite that dumb..."

Lian growing up to be the Young Justice cartoon version of Artemis (half-Asian archer) would make heads explode, but be funny, since the cartoon Artemis was Chesire's sister, and Lian-as-Artemis would be her daughter...

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I'll add Kole, killed off in Crisis on Infinite Earths to the list of characters I miss, as long as Teen Titans are on the brain. They brought back Supergirl (three times?) and Barry Allen and the Crime Syndicate (*also* three times?) and *the entire flipping multiverse,* why can't they bring back Kole?

Also Garth/Tempest. The only 'sidekick' to grow up to surpass his mentor, in power, to the point where a funny sidekicks vs. mentors fight had Wonder Woman decisively spanking Wonder Girl, Batman gradually kicking Nightwings butt, and Tempest just tossing Aquaman around like a rag-doll. Heh.

I kinda miss the second Doom Patrol, particularly Celsius, as well, but with a name and legacy like Doom Patrol (or Suicide Squad, or Strikeforce Morituri), I suppose that I shouldn't get attached to any of those characters. :)


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DOOM PATROL!!!!!!


Well, at this point the sacrifice of the original Doom Patrol pretty much IS their reputation; it's what they're most known for.

Bringing them back would be a huge mista.... oh, wait. They brought them back, didn't they?

Grumble, grumble.....


I loved the original Supergirl, for a long time I blamed her death on the awful movie. Recently, prior to N52 I found her modern reincarnation entertaining. The one under the title Power Girl, not the confusing mess under the title Supergirl.


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Doom Patrol under Morrison who had Couliguia(sp) Crazy Jane and Rebus was crazy awesome.


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Andrea1 wrote:
Doom Patrol under Morrison who had Couliguia(sp) Crazy Jane and Rebus was crazy awesome.

Crazy awesome, but crazy awesome in a way that only Morrison could pull off. Though the writer that followed (Rachel something?) did better than I'd expected.

Still, add them to a list of characters that shouldn't be touched by anyone else.


Ultimate Scarlet Witch. I hate the way they killed her off.


thejeff wrote:
Andrea1 wrote:
Doom Patrol under Morrison who had Couliguia(sp) Crazy Jane and Rebus was crazy awesome.

Crazy awesome, but crazy awesome in a way that only Morrison could pull off. Though the writer that followed (Rachel something?) did better than I'd expected.

Still, add them to a list of characters that shouldn't be touched by anyone else.

I do not care for Morrison, I think he needs strong handlers/editors in order to put out anything of real substance.


I really miss Wally West and is one of the reason's why I don't like the new 52. I am several years behind in marvel though, so I have no Idea who is dead.


Its Marvel. They aren't dead, just in Europe.


U-Go girl, no wait, the anarchist, no wait, the Orphan!!!
Well I really miss all of the X-Force/X-Statix bunch, except for El Guapo, but I miss his skate!
But as for Doom Patrol, no one should touch them except Milligan!


I found it infuriating that Marvel implied its third-rate villain Dr. Demonicus successfully defeated Godzilla and mutated him further, leaving him pathetic and helpless to be killed at will. Any version of Godzilla—Showa, Heisei, Marvel or Millennium (and no, that 1998 travesty is not Godzilla)—would have laughed at and immolated Demonicus as an aside between real adventures.

As Pacino has said, "What a crock of $h!+."


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Randarak wrote:

I miss the old crude, rude, crass, beer-drinkin, cigar-smokin, lose his temper with the drop of a hat, Wolverine from the 70's and 80's. They took the essence of a great character, and in some respects watered him down to make him more kid-appealing, and in others, over-exaggerated him so they wouldn't lose other fans, depending on what book you were reading.

And Peter Parker, the ever Amazing Spider-Man. They should have left him and Mary Jane alone.

I'm with ya!

Quite frankly, I think I hate every version of WOlverine AFTER the Dark Phoenix saga... When I started in the 80/90's... I HATED that character... and everything he ever became.

Then I read from Giant size #1 and finally realized what an awesome character he was... till they ruined him with over-popularity/exposure...

It's why I loved Hugh Jackman in the first 2 x-men movies... Very back to basics!

But then the next 3 ruined him again...

/sigh...

Jaelithe wrote:

I found it infuriating that Marvel implied its third-rate villain Dr. Demonicus successfully defeated Godzilla and mutated him further, leaving him pathetic and helpless to be killed at will. Any version of Godzilla—Showa, Heisei, Marvel or Millennium (and no, that 1998 travesty is not Godzilla)—would have laughed at and immolated Demonicus as an aside between real adventures.

As Pacino has said, "What a crock of $h!+."

Wait... When did THAT happen!??! You have me quite curious now!


The Defenders

The Hulk, Silver Surfer, and Doc Strange version.

'nuff said


phantom1592 wrote:
Jaelithe wrote:

I found it infuriating that Marvel implied its third-rate villain Dr. Demonicus successfully defeated Godzilla and mutated him further, leaving him pathetic and helpless to be killed at will. Any version of Godzilla—Showa, Heisei, Marvel or Millennium (and no, that 1998 travesty is not Godzilla)—would have laughed at and immolated Demonicus as an aside between real adventures.

As Pacino has said, "What a crock of $h!+."

Wait... When did THAT happen!??! You have me quite curious now!

Some old issue of Iron Man—#193, if I'm not mistaken.

Demonicus' Boasting


Mulgar wrote:

The Defenders

The Hulk, Silver Surfer, and Doc Strange version.

'nuff said

And Namor.

While we are on the subject, the REAL Guardians of the Galaxy. The Heroes of the 30th Century (Marvel-style). Not to be confused with the DC Legion of Super-Heroes. Who, themselves, bear a striking similarity to the X-Men (70s-80s era additions).

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GreenDragon1133 wrote:
Not to be confused with the DC Legion of Super-Heroes. Who, themselves, bear a striking similarity to the X-Men (70s-80s era additions).

That's all Dave Cockrum, who, while not a comic book character, is definitely missed.

Had DC not passed on the ideas, his designs for Nightcrawler, Wolverine and maybe even Storm could have been DC properties!

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GreenDragon1133 wrote:
Mulgar wrote:

The Defenders

The Hulk, Silver Surfer, and Doc Strange version.

'nuff said

And Namor.

While we are on the subject, the REAL Guardians of the Galaxy. The Heroes of the 30th Century (Marvel-style). Not to be confused with the DC Legion of Super-Heroes. Who, themselves, bear a striking similarity to the X-Men (70s-80s era additions).

Whatever happened to Yondu, Nikki, Martinex, Charlie-27, Starhawk, and grown-up Vance Astro?


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Set wrote:
GreenDragon1133 wrote:
Not to be confused with the DC Legion of Super-Heroes. Who, themselves, bear a striking similarity to the X-Men (70s-80s era additions).

That's all Dave Cockrum, who, while not a comic book character, is definitely missed.

Had DC not passed on the ideas, his designs for Nightcrawler, Wolverine and maybe even Storm could have been DC properties!

Instead we got Shadow Lass, Timber Wolf, and Ferro Lad instead of Colossus. And since none of them has been driven into the ground, and made a mockery of their former selves by overpopularity, I think that counts as a win for the Legion.

Speaking of which - On Topic: Long Live the Legion!


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LONG LIVE THE LEGION!!!!


When Captain Marvel died I was about 9 year old and I was devastated. This is the Mar-vell, Jim Starlin era Captain Marvel (early 80's) who died of Cancer in the first large format graphic novel.

Cancer took out my uncle and my favorite super hero in the same year. Son of a ^&th!!

-MD


Muad'Dib wrote:

When Captain Marvel died I was about 9 year old and I was devastated. This is the Mar-vell, Jim Starlin era Captain Marvel (early 80's) who died of Cancer in the first large format graphic novel.

Cancer took out my uncle and my favorite super hero in the same year. Son of a ^&th!!

-MD

Yeah. I remember thinking that it was just my luck they'd off one of my favorites, while retaining much lamer heroes.


In related news: Many years ago, National Periodicals - not Timely Comics - won a lawsuit, and the rights to a Superman knock-off. Later Timely renamed themselves after that character. Legal rights to the name ensued.
Thanks to Jim Lee and the New 52, Marvel just has to wait a few years, and DC can never again use the name, or reprint any old stories of: Captain Marvel.


I miss Gwen Stacy the most, and wish they'd killed off Mary Jane instead.


GreenDragon1133 wrote:

In related news: Many years ago, National Periodicals - not Timely Comics - won a lawsuit, and the rights to a Superman knock-off. Later Timely renamed themselves after that character. Legal rights to the name ensued.

Thanks to Jim Lee and the New 52, Marvel just has to wait a few years, and DC can never again use the name, or reprint any old stories of: Captain Marvel.

Which is why the Marvel Family has been appearing in titles referencing Shazam, instead of Captain Marvel for decades now.

Has something changed in this recently? And what does the New 52 have to do with this?

It's also tied into why Miracleman isn't Marvelman and why Marvelman wasn't still Captain Marvel. And why Marvel can now reprint Alan Moore's Miracleman. Which you should read if you haven't.


Now Billy Batson uses the word "Shazam" to transform, then uses the word "Shazam" to introduce himself. And the magic knows the difference between the two uses.


A preemptive farewell to the Je'daii, the Fel Dynasty, Galactic Alliance, and everyone else that Disney has just put an execution order on. Fortunately, they can't take the Sky from us.

For those who haven't heard, Disney is taking the SW license from Dark Horse as of 2015, and handing it to Joey Q.

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GreenDragon1133 wrote:

A preemptive farewell to the Je'daii, the Fel Dynasty, Galactic Alliance, and everyone else that Disney has just put an execution order on. Fortunately, they can't take the Sky from us.

For those who haven't heard, Disney is taking the SW license from Dark Horse as of 2015, and handing it to Joey Q.

Dislike.


this is a very personal subject for me.

Avalanche.

i wish he were never killed off in uncanny avengers.

i hope he comes back soon.


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GreenDragon1133 wrote:

A preemptive farewell to the Je'daii, the Fel Dynasty, Galactic Alliance, and everyone else that Disney has just put an execution order on. Fortunately, they can't take the Sky from us.

For those who haven't heard, Disney is taking the SW license from Dark Horse as of 2015, and handing it to Joey Q.

Everyone saw this coming. If they burn the shrine to Boba Fett I'm all for it. I still can't comprehend how a character who does nothing in the movies, and died the stupidest death of any character in the entire trilogy managed to convince writers he was deserving of the title of 'biggest badass in the galaxy." It boggles the mind.

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Elongated Man. He was a great character, and I really liked him and severely miss him. Original Rhino, as well. He had some great moments just before his untimely death.

Then there's this whole new 52-killed-off-practicaly-everybody-thing going on. I am not a fan of what they did to the Joker. Also, I miss the old Mister Freeze....


Get ready for the TV show where he is replaced by Firestorm's nemesis Killer Frost.


I miss Phoenix. I made love to her.., twice. Talk about hot times.


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GreenDragon1133 wrote:

A preemptive farewell to the Je'daii, the Fel Dynasty, Galactic Alliance, and everyone else that Disney has just put an execution order on. Fortunately, they can't take the Sky from us.

For those who haven't heard, Disney is taking the SW license from Dark Horse as of 2015, and handing it to Joey Q.

Dislike.

We'll see what happens.


Wonder if DC will ever bring Kole back. She was a pretty unique character with a unique power (name someone else who can spin crystal) and a unique costume (crystalline fan-like sleeves that always seem to open up for her arms when needed) created just so the Teen Titans would have a casualty in that godawful Crisis on Infinite Earth or whatever.


I have a feeling that Anna Marconi from Superior Spider-man will be next on the chopping block. Best case is that she leaves and fades into the woodwork.


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Abyssal Lord wrote:
Wonder if DC will ever bring Kole back. She was a pretty unique character with a unique power (name someone else who can spin crystal) and a unique costume (crystalline fan-like sleeves that always seem to open up for her arms when needed) created just so the Teen Titans would have a casualty in that godawful Crisis on Infinite Earth or whatever.

Kole is definitely a favorite. As long as we completely ignore her 'origin story' about her scientist parents turning themselves radiation-proof crystal bug-people to escape the nuclear holocaust they thought was coming... Yikes. :)

But there's also Krystalin, from the X-Men 2099 (the best X-team nobody ever heard of, with other amazing characters like La Lunatica, Xian Chi Xan and Meanstreak). In addition to being a mutant who generates crystal, she's also daughter of a leader among the New Black Panther party (who are Wakandan-inspired) *and* worships Thor (which is not an uncommon faith in the 2099 Marvel verse). She's not 'dead,' per se, but since the 2099-verse has been pretty handily demolished and is unlikely to ever be seen again, might as well be.

And Crystal Kid, from the Legion Academy. Various other Legion Academy mainstays, like Shadow Kid, Power Boy, Lamprey and Nightwing, were written off-screen and abandoned a few years back, but Crystal Kid didn't even get that, and has apparently been forgotten. Perhaps he got stuck in the bathroom, or something, and missed graduation...

Such an awesomely visual power, even more so than the already awesome looking ice-generation powers more commonly seen, and yet characters with that power never seem to go anywhere in the comics.

Meanwhile, we've got fiddy hojillion people who create green (or yellow, or red) energy boxing gloves, and more Superman-clones than you can shake a kryptonite-stick at. Go figure.


The entire Legion has been abandoned in favor of JL3K. Why? Did anyone want a futuristic version of Bruce, Clark, Diana, Hal, and WallyBarry?


Set wrote:
Abyssal Lord wrote:
Wonder if DC will ever bring Kole back. She was a pretty unique character with a unique power (name someone else who can spin crystal) and a unique costume (crystalline fan-like sleeves that always seem to open up for her arms when needed) created just so the Teen Titans would have a casualty in that godawful Crisis on Infinite Earth or whatever.

Kole is definitely a favorite. As long as we completely ignore her 'origin story' about her scientist parents turning themselves radiation-proof crystal bug-people to escape the nuclear holocaust they thought was coming... Yikes. :)

But there's also Krystalin, from the X-Men 2099 (the best X-team nobody ever heard of, with other amazing characters like La Lunatica, Xian Chi Xan and Meanstreak). In addition to being a mutant who generates crystal, she's also daughter of a leader among the New Black Panther party (who are Wakandan-inspired) *and* worships Thor (which is not an uncommon faith in the 2099 Marvel verse). She's not 'dead,' per se, but since the 2099-verse has been pretty handily demolished and is unlikely to ever be seen again, might as well be.

And Crystal Kid, from the Legion Academy. Various other Legion Academy mainstays, like Shadow Kid, Power Boy, Lamprey and Nightwing, were written off-screen and abandoned a few years back, but Crystal Kid didn't even get that, and has apparently been forgotten. Perhaps he got stuck in the bathroom, or something, and missed graduation...

Such an awesomely visual power, even more so than the already awesome looking ice-generation powers more commonly seen, and yet characters with that power never seem to go anywhere in the comics.

Meanwhile, we've got fiddy hojillion people who create green (or yellow, or red) energy boxing gloves, and more Superman-clones than you can shake a kryptonite-stick at. Go figure.

What are you talking about? Power Boy being in a relationship with another Legion Academy grad was a major storyline last time around. Had NO idea he was gay. Nightwing and Lamprey showed up as well.


GreenDragon1133 wrote:
The entire Legion has been abandoned in favor of JL3K. Why? Did anyone want a futuristic version of Bruce, Clark, Diana, Hal, and WallyBarry?

Also, this.


Also,I very much enjoyed the 2099 universe. REALLY liked Punisher 2099, it was hilarious and sad and serious at the same time.

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