paizo.com Recent Posts in Arcane Duelist / Arcane Bond / Special Materialspaizo.com Recent Posts in Arcane Duelist / Arcane Bond / Special Materials2012-07-24T14:15:54Z2012-07-24T14:15:54ZRe: Forums: Advice: Arcane Duelist/Arcane Bond/Special Materialsdeuxherohttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2njvi?Arcane-Duelist-Arcane-Bond-Special-Materials#62012-07-24T21:03:52Z2012-07-24T21:03:52Z<p>You can alreddy do that with a gun.</p>You can alreddy do that with a gun.deuxhero2012-07-24T21:03:52ZRe: Forums: Advice: Arcane Duelist/Arcane Bond/Special MaterialsEmmit Svensonhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2njvi?Arcane-Duelist-Arcane-Bond-Special-Materials#52012-07-24T16:04:14Z2012-07-24T16:04:14Z<p>I’d rule that a strength-rated longbow would count as being made of “special materials” and can’t be had for free. Otherwise you could get some very silly abuses, since you could start with an item you could resell for far more than the cost to bond a new item.</p>I’d rule that a strength-rated longbow would count as being made of “special materials” and can’t be had for free. Otherwise you could get some very silly abuses, since you could start with an item you could resell for far more than the cost to bond a new item.Emmit Svenson2012-07-24T16:04:14ZRe: Forums: Advice: Arcane Duelist/Arcane Bond/Special MaterialsLazarXhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2njvi?Arcane-Duelist-Arcane-Bond-Special-Materials#42012-07-24T15:33:52Z2012-07-24T15:33:52Z<p>You can't upgrade your blade to an adamantium blade. You'd have to buy it outright.</p>You can't upgrade your blade to an adamantium blade. You'd have to buy it outright.LazarX2012-07-24T15:33:52ZRe: Forums: Advice: Arcane Duelist/Arcane Bond/Special MaterialsStSnookumshttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2njvi?Arcane-Duelist-Arcane-Bond-Special-Materials#32012-07-24T14:36:51Z2012-07-24T14:36:51Z<p>Actually, I have been curious about this too. It just says, "Wizards who select a bonded object begin play with one at no cost. Objects that are the subject of an arcane bond must fall into one of the following categories: amulet, ring, staff, wand, or weapon. These objects are always masterwork quality. Weapons acquired at 1st level are not made of any special material." The way I interpret that is you begin with a mundane item of Masterwork quality for free. Does this include things like composite bows at any strength rating? Also, it says no special material but does not say anything about magical quality or additional effects. Later it mentions adding on effects at an additional cost, but it says nothing about the initial creation. I want to play a wizard, but I find familiars are better for role play because of their vulnerability. So, I want to choose a longbow as my bond, but the rules for it are vague.</p>Actually, I have been curious about this too. It just says, "Wizards who select a bonded object begin play with one at no cost. Objects that are the subject of an arcane bond must fall into one of the following categories: amulet, ring, staff, wand, or weapon. These objects are always masterwork quality. Weapons acquired at 1st level are not made of any special material." The way I interpret that is you begin with a mundane item of Masterwork quality for free. Does this include things like...StSnookums2012-07-24T14:36:51ZRe: Forums: Advice: Arcane Duelist/Arcane Bond/Special MaterialsDaelenhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2njvi?Arcane-Duelist-Arcane-Bond-Special-Materials#22012-02-01T00:27:34Z2012-02-01T00:27:34Z<p>Your bonded item could be a Masterwork Elven Curve blade... but not Adamantine. It only states 1st level because that's when a Wizard gets it as a class feature... at least that has always been my understanding.</p>
<p>EDIT: Also, you get the item for free, and then add the special abilities on at the crafting cost... also, if you want a magic item to be your bonded item you can designate one you have it says, so I' assume if you owned a masterwork adamantine elven curve blade you could make that your bonded item as well.</p>Your bonded item could be a Masterwork Elven Curve blade... but not Adamantine. It only states 1st level because that's when a Wizard gets it as a class feature... at least that has always been my understanding.
EDIT: Also, you get the item for free, and then add the special abilities on at the crafting cost... also, if you want a magic item to be your bonded item you can designate one you have it says, so I' assume if you owned a masterwork adamantine elven curve blade you could make that...Daelen2012-02-01T00:27:34ZForums: Advice: Arcane Duelist/Arcane Bond/Special MaterialsKuro Poe (alias of KestlerGunner)https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2njvi?Arcane-Duelist-Arcane-Bond-Special-Materials#12012-07-24T14:15:54Z2012-02-01T00:22:46Z<p>Caw, I've been a bit confused on the pricing for the Arcane Bond 5th level class feature for the Arcane Duelist. This is for PFS society.</p>
<p>As read, it refers you straight to the Wizard description of the Arcane Bond:</p>
<p>[Spoiler omitted]</p>
<p>This does not give any advice on whether you are supposed to purchase the item, you craft it yourself as per the special rules for upgrading an Arcane Bond by the owner (half price cost) or it is received for free as a class feature as per the Wizard's arcane bond.</p>
<p>If I wanted my Arcane Bond to be a masterwork adamantine elven curve blade, would I receive the mundane item for free, then spend 1,000 gp using the Arcane Bond crafting rules to upgrade it to a +1 enhancement? The class feature stipulates weapons cannot be made of a special material at 1st level of wizard, but what about the 5th level of Arcane Duelist?</p>
<p>Am I supposed to spend:
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-3080gp for mundane item +1000gp for +1 enhancement?
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-Receive the item for free then pay 1000gp for +1 enhancement?</p>
<p>Any assistance is appreciated, caw.</p>Caw, I've been a bit confused on the pricing for the Arcane Bond 5th level class feature for the Arcane Duelist. This is for PFS society.
As read, it refers you straight to the Wizard description of the Arcane Bond:
[Spoiler omitted]
This does not give any advice on whether you are supposed to purchase the item, you craft it yourself as per the special rules for upgrading an Arcane Bond by the owner (half price cost) or it is received for free as a class feature as per the Wizard's arcane...Kuro Poe (alias of KestlerGunner)2012-02-01T00:22:46Z