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I'm curious, what are everyone's favorite 3PP items and why?
While I love SGG and Rite publishing, I think my favorite single publication is Dream Scarred Press's Psionics Unleashed. I like psionics in general, and I love their rework of it with all the races and classes pathfinderized. To date, if psionics is allowed in a pathfinder game, I'll probably be playing a psionocist.
A close second is the Imperial Gazetteer Principalities The Principality of Morgau and Doresh, and Realms Subterranean. While I don't care for the vampire side much, the idea of an entire nation of intelligent and powerful ghouls under the very feet of the pcs with its own class system based on how the person's body reacted to the disease that transformed them into a ghoul, some being literal beggars and virtually powerless, to some retaining the full power they had in life and gaining significantly more besides.
For a third item, (and I'm going to stop at 3, though I could go on and on) I'm going to have to say the Loot 4 Less compendium (which really is 3 books in one, but I get to cheat since its a compendium). I bought it when it was on sale and it convinced me to get the whole Loot 4 Less line and I enjoy all of it.
That is kind of a hard call, judging any individual product, as they are so different. How do I compare Psionics Unleashed, to the Tome of Horrors, to Slumbering Tsar, to the Dragon Rider, to Strategists and Tacticians etc. The size scope and goals of the products are so wildly different I cant really choose.
Like Cheapy said, go for all of them. I only stopped at three to save my sanity.
Hmmmm ok, it can be like an awards show....
Best Giant book of monsters: Tome of horrors by Frog God Games. More monsters then you want to be forced by your dm to shake a stick at. The heavy thud this behemoth makes when I drop it on my table brings fear and dread out in my players.
Best Absurdly large adventure: The Slumbering Tsar by Frog god games
Best Supplemental System Sourcebook: Psionics Unleased by Dreamscarred Press
Best soft cover option book: Tie between Aventurers Handbook (Super Genius Games) and Strategists and Tacticians (Four Winds Fantasy).
Best short PDF option product: 101 new skill uses by Rite Publishing
Best single class pdf: The Dragon Rider, The Time Theif, The Godling, The Shadow Assasin, all by Super Genius Games...Honorable mention to the Anachronistic Adventures Enforcer and Investigator.
Best relatively small feat pdf: Feats of Battle by super genius games.
Best equipment product: Loot4less line by super genius games (as well as the kragnar products that dont fit in the loot for less line)
And my most used and absolute favorite 3rd party products that literally have changed my game for the better.............[drum roll]
The Super Genius Archetype Line of products(Arcane, Archer, Divine and Martial). Different from the paizo style of 'archetype' these allow you to mix and match groups of options regardless of class. Want to add some divine magic to a fighter? No problem. Want a wizard with a bit more combat oomph, we got you covered. These were also the key to my replacement of the wealth system and the vast majority of magic items in my game, allowing me to forever say goodbye to magic mart and the idea that magic items have become mundane and common in my game.
I think I'm going to have to check out the archetype line, I've heard a lot about them. (And I was inspired by your replacement system in making my own.)
What about you Cheapy? You can even give us your favorite one that you've wrote, I'm curious as to what it is.
3PP fiction: Shadowsfall Legends: Pawn, Deception, and Sacrifice—Valdia's Tale from Jon Brazier Enterprises. It's really fun fiction to introduce the upcoming Plane of Shadow campaign setting material that they are releasing.
E-Zine: Wayfinder 1-6, but Wayfinder 6 is my favorite of them so far.
Monster Book: Tome of Horrors from Frog God Games, of course.
Adventure: Black Monastery from Frog God Games, but it's the only 3rd party adventure I've bought yet. I also have not had time to run it yet.
I want to check out Raging Swan's stuff, (especially What's for Sale, Anyway?) and more of 0One Games's stuff as well. I just have to watch my budget as the Pathfinder Battles came out this month, so I'm a little behind on the gaming budget.
Biased opinion- "Bugbears of the Frozen Tears" released by Raging Swan Press, though that will probably be replaced by "Duergars of the Obsidian Citadel" at a later date also by Raging Swan.
Unbiased opinion- This is pretty much based on the stuff I'm using currently-
That's just based on what I'm using now. I still enjoy using stuff from Open Design, Rite Publishing, Zombie Sky Press, and 4 Winds.
Looking forward to more Frog God Game releases (the big ones!) and I know Raging Swan has got some cool stuff coming. Oh and Zombie Sky's "Weird Cycle." That should definitely rock.
My favorite thing I wrote that's available right now is the Secrets of Forgotten Magic Items. It was a lot of fun to make (and more fun to playtest!), and it got to #4 at Paizo :). I suspect it'll stay that way for a while, but we'll see how this current project in a similar vein turns out!
Books I use a lot:
I'm also warming up to the Divine Favor series by OD. I realized recently that 2/3rds of my characters are divine types, so the series is great!
Not by me or including my own stuff, Things I use in my games.
Best Bestiary: Forgotten Foes, its brilliantly designed and has the best art of any 3PP monster book out there.
Best new class: Time Thief by SGG is still my favorite. Though I have come to appreciate the witch hunter a great deal as well.
Best Supplement: Sunken Empires (still)
Sadly I don't get the time to read a great deal of the new stuff out there because I spend a great deal of my time designing/publishing.
Best Critter Compendium Forgotten Foes (Tricky Owlbear)...Tome of Horrors(Frog God Games) is incredible, but in the end it's quality over quantity
Favorite Drop In Locale Kavit M.Tors Emporium of Collectible Curiosities (Rite Publishing)
Best 3PP single class The Time Thief/Warden...the two of them offer so many possibilities...close behind them I'd have to go with The Dragonrider (Super Genius Games)
Best 3PP setting Cerulean Seas (Alluria) takes a backseat to my all time favorite 3pp setting, which is amazing when you take into account how much I love the Cerulean Seas setting, Ptolus. Yes, Ptolus. It's technically a 3pp product, and for me, has withstood the test of time as one of the greatest city settings ever devised. (Malhavoc)
Go to Guide for Loot a handful of the #30 series from Rite and the What's for sale anyway? series from Raging Swan.
A lot of good suggestions in this thread.
My all time favorite is Luven Lightfinger's Gear & Treasure Shop by 4WFG. Mostly i like adding extra mundane gear and such to my games and it is the 3pp book I use the most.
Due to this post, I ordered the book from my FLGS.
Louis Agresta wrote:
I love it!
I don't know who would run it, but a 3pp Pathfinder awards ceremony would be a great event for Paizo Con.
"Pathfinder Third Party Publisher Award of Excellence" or more briefly a "Lisa" because, well... you know why.
Definitely 4 Winds Publishing's 'Book of Arcane Magic.' I had seen it on my FLGS's shelves, but sort of put it on the back burner. Anyway, I ended up spending my last birthday in the hospital. When my wife went to my favorite FLGS (Ronin Games in Castro Valley, CA) to pick out my gifts (Game Mastery Guide and Advanced Combat), Ed added the Book of Arcane Magic as a gift from himself. Anyway, long story short, loved the book. Great spells, great familiar options (especially the clockwork familiar), and the magical college feats are a great launch pad for campaign-specific feats. Even the fluff narration is engaging, which is a rare find.. As soon as I got out of the hospital, I picked up the Book of Divine Magic and made them both entirely legal in my homebrew campaign.
P.S. Seriously, Ed's a great guy. If you're in the Bay Area, he runs a great store which is well worth the trip.
I'll blow the horn of self-tooting here for a moment. If you haven't had the opportunity to check out former RPG Superstar contender Richard Hunt's writing for us on the Infamous Adversaries: Temerlyth the Undying and the Sinister Secrets of Silvermote adventure, you are missing out.
I won't let the cat entirely out of the bag yet, but TPK has some exciting stuff on the way, and a couple more veterans from the Paizo community writing for us this year.
Our crew uses a lot of Rite's 101 series, and I've used FWFG supplements and Dreamscarred's Psionics.
We're very happy you enjoyed it! Thanks! And thank Ed for us as well!
My favorite 3PP book is Forgotten Foes,, and while I played a little part in the artwork side, I can take no glory for the wonderful (and inventive) writing. I use this book often in my games, and while other bestiaries have similar creatures, the ones from FF just have a different feel.
Another great bestiary that I use quite often is Creepy Creatures: Bestiary of the Bizarre. It is not often that you see a 3PP book in colour, but I don't think Alluria Publishing create anything else. Colour books are just damn cool (and also extremely expensive).
After thinking about it, I will list my top three in each of the groups below. Some of them I am listing by series, a group of books about the same thing by the same publisher. I should note I am not putting them in order, just listing them in groups of three. Also to note these are just from the books I own and have fully read.
Monster Book (*note I don't yet have Tome of Horrors)
I actually hate making lists like these cause I like the vast majority of the 3pp stuff out there and there is some good products not on this list.
Thank you. I contributed quite a bit to that particular book, and I'm particularly proud of the darakhul PC option. I'm glad to hear you like it-- it's one of the OD books that often flies under the radar. :D
This thread has helped me find one purchase already and when pay day rolls around it'll count for several more. Thanks to everyone who has made suggestions and thank you to all our 3PP who supply such good content.
So what did you end up buying so far?
Ironically, it was restless souls, something not mentioned in this thread yet, though it definitely deserves to be.
I was checking out something, I think it was your recommended Luven Lightfinger's Gear and Treasure Shop and saw a review suggesting restless souls. Lightfinger's is going to have to wait til payday, but restless souls was cheap enough I didn't mind grabbing it early.
I don't know who would run it, but a 3pp Pathfinder awards ceremony would be a great event for Paizo Con.
Ok! Now we're collaborating. Take my notion of an Ennie like award, turn it into a Paizo Con event, and nudge Paizo into putting up a vote page.
The only things it seems to need are (1) an independent -- non Paizo employee -- judging panel, arrived at through an independent process and (2) a way for 3pp to submit one product to each category.
Problem #1: Perhaps we can convince Wayfinder to run a judge election process each year, and the first time out of the gate, maybe non-Paizo Wayfinder staff get to be the judges? If Wayfinder was up to it, Liz might serve as the bridge since she jumped from uber fan to staff? I'm sure there are better solutions out there. This one just jumped to my head.
Alternately, maybe whoever posts the most reviews on Paizo.com weighted for how often the reviews receive comments could become a judge automatically? I bet we could devise a formula for that.
Just noodling here.
Problem #2: This one is easy, I think. Submission is PDF only, regardless of whether the product was originally print or pdf.
After that it follows the Ennie pattern:
Boy do I like this.
PS DM - I like your categories. Seems like a few short tweaks to a win on that score.
Best Monster Book - Tome of Horrors: Complete, by Frog God Games
Best Monster Supplement - Advanced Bestiary, by Green Ronin
Best System Supplement - Psionics Unleashed, by Dreamscarred Press
Best System-Neutral Supplement - Grimtooth's Traps, by Flying Buffalo Games
Best Gaming System - Swords & Wizardry: Complete Rules, by Frog God Games
Best Campaign Setting - Carcosa, by Lamentations of the Flame Princess
Best Adventure - Rappan Athuk, by Frog God Games
Let's try and keep talk of gaming systems other than pathfinder out of here, especially since this is "Compatible products from other publishers."
I like the categories as well, may have to break adventure and monster books into 2 sections, one less than X pages, one more than, but otherwise it seems really well thought out.