Here are the Saturday, January 14 updated statistics generated (per case averages) after 33 cases I’ve recorded from the boards. I think I may have missed a case listing, here or there, but I have all from this thread. Also, I’ve tried to make all the corrections mentioned.
Thanks for everyone who has posted. Please continue to do so and I’ll update these stats after another 10 or so cases.
7 booster boxes on average per case have small figures
57 booster boxes on average per case have medium figures
Side Note: Just got an update from Popular Collections. My case arrives Wednesday. Right now I wish I had purchased from Paizo. In a month, when I look back, I’ll be glad I saved some cash …. for the next set.
-Swiftbrook
Overall Stats:
A case is producing an average of 83.0 miniatures
Based on Paizo’s individual miniature pricing, the value of a broken up case is $649.47.
All but one case contained complete sets
List is average per case
Common
1 Goblin Warrior (Red) - 2.45
2 Goblin Hero (Red) - 2.45
3 Goblin Warrior (Blue) - 2.58
4 Goblin Hero (Blue) - 2.58
5 Orc Brute - 2.70
6 Orc Warrior - 2.85
7 Skeleton - 2.79
8 Watch Guard - 2.42
9 Watch Officer - 2.48
10 Lizardfolk Champion – 2.18
11 Zombie - 2.39
12 Giant Spider - 2.58
13 Wolf - 2.58
Uncommon
14 Venomous Snake - 2.27
15 Mummy - 2.30
16 Human Rogue - 2.18
17 Human Ranger - 2.33
18 Elf Wizard - 2.61
19 Half-Elf Cleric - 2.18
20 Dwarf Fighter - 2.06
21 Human Druid - 2.21
22 Gnome Fighter - 1.97
23 Dire Rat - 1.97
Rare
24 Gargoyle - 1.91
25 Half-Orc Barbarian - 1.67
26 Spectre - 2.21
27 Seelah, Human Paladin - 1.82
28 Werewolf – 1.91
29 Medusa - 2.36
30 Minotaur - 1.85
31 Ogre - 1.97
32 Troll – 2.06
33 Ettin - 2.12
34 Chimera – 1.00
35 Manticore – 1.00
36 Giant Caveweaver Spider – 1.00
37 Frost Giant – 1.00
38 Succubus - 1.24
39 Lich - 1.33
40 Vampire - 1.42
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Case arrived, got em all, woo!
Brick 1
1 Goblin Warrior (Red)
2 Goblin Hero (Red)
7 Skeleton
8 Watch Guard
9 Watch Officer
11 Zombie
12 Giant Spider
13 Wolf
14 Venomous Snake
16 Human Rogue
17 Human Ranger
19 Half-Elf Cleric
22 Gnome Fighter
23 Dire Rat
26 Spectre
27 Seelah, Human Paladin
29 Medusa
31 Ogre
32 Troll
37 Frost Giant
40 Vampire
Brick 2
3 Goblin Warrior (Blue)
4 Goblin Hero (Blue)
5 Orc Brute
7 Skeleton
9 Watch Officer
11 Zombie
12 Giant Spider
13 Wolf
14 Venomous Snake
15 Mummy
18 Elf Wizard
19 Half-Elf Cleric
21 Human Druid
26 Spectre
28 Werewolf
29 Medusa
32 Troll
33 Ettin
36 Giant Caveweaver Spider
38 Succubus
Brick 3
1 Goblin Warrior (Red)
2 Goblin Hero (Red)
5 Orc Brute
6 Orc Warrior
7 Skeleton
8 Watch Guard
10 Lizardfolk Champion
11 Zombie
15 Mummy
18 Elf Wizard
20 Dwarf Fighter
21 Human Druid
22 Gnome Fighter
23 Dire Rat
24 Gargoyle
26 Spectre
27 Seelah, Human Paladin
32 Troll
33 Ettin
35 Manticore
39 Lich
Brick 4
1 Goblin Warrior (Red)
2 Goblin Hero (Red)
3 Goblin Warrior (Blue)
4 Goblin Hero (Blue)
5 Orc Brute
7 Skeleton
10 Lizardfolk Champion
11 Zombie
12 Giant Spider
14 Venomous Snake
16 Human Rogue
18 Elf Wizard
19 Half-Elf Cleric
20 Dwarf Fighter
25 Half-Orc Barbarian
28 Werewolf
29 Medusa
30 Minotaur
31 Ogre
34 Chimera
40 Vampire
83 figs in all.
10 goblins!
4 zombies!
4 skeletons!
Probably don't need 3 trolls, 2 ettins or 3 spectres.
But all in all, I'm happy.
Received my case in the mail today. Finished my singles order, along with the Kraken Tentacles and Plant Vines I've so anxiously awaited, a few minutes ago.
Overall, I'm really happy with the set. I had been kind of blah about the set as all the monsters are the basic staples I have plenty of in my collection. While I do love having multiple paints/sculpts to give variety to what hits my table, my anticipation for new minis sets comes from new/unique minis. HM didn't really have that (though Runelords will!).
But as I opened up my boxes I saw the paint steps that didn't photograph well in the previews and was wowed. This is a great set. If it wasn't for the uneven distribution of figures, I would have ordered a second case tonight and held off on singles for another week.
Plenty I could comment on, but I'll just make one observation. The half-elf looks wrong somehow. But if I cover the head with my finger and thumb, I love the piece. Why do I find the head so wrong?
Detailed breakdown by booster:
Front, Back, and Large rows. Opened left to right. Bricks opened top to bottom.
F1 Lizardfolk Champion / Zombie / Lizardfolk Champion / Zombie
F2 Medusa / Werewolf / Werewolf / Seelah, Human Paladin
F3 Zombie / Giant Spider / Zombie / Giant Spider
F4 Lich / Vampire / Lich / Succubus
F5 Giant Spider / Wolf / Wolf / Wolf
F6 Venomous Snake / Mummy / Venomous Snake / Elf Wizard
F7 Mummy / Half-Elf Cleric / Human Rogue / Half-Elf Cleric
F8 Human Ranger / Human Rogue / Human Ranger / Dwarf Fighter
B1 Red Goblins / Red Goblins / Red Goblins / Orc Brute
B2 Elf Wizard / Dwarf Fighter / Half-Elf Cleric / Human Druid
B3 Orc Brute / Blue Goblins / Blue Goblins / Skeleton
B4 Human Druid / Human Druid / Dwarf Fighter / Gnome Fighter & Dire Rat
B5 Orc Warrior / Watch Guard / Orc Warrior / Watch Guard
B6 Seelah, Human Paladin / Half-Orc Barbarian / Gargoyle / Gargoyle
B7 Skeleton / Watch Officer / Skeleton / Lizardfolk / Champion
B8 Werewolf / Seelah, Human Paladin / Half-Orc Barbarian / Spectre
L1 Minotaur / Troll / Minotaur / Minotaur
L2 Troll / Ettin / Ettin / Ogre
L3 Chimera / Manticore / Giant Caveweaver Spider / Frost Giant
01 Goblin Warrior (Red) 3
02 Goblin Hero (Red) 3
03 Goblin Warrior (Blue) 2
04 Goblin Hero (Blue) 2
05 Orc Brute 2
06 Orc Warrior 2
07 Skeleton 3
08 Watch Guard 1
09 Watch Officer 2
10 Lizardfolk Champion 3
11 Zombie 4
12 Giant Spider 3
13 Wolf 3
14 Venomous Snake 2
15 Mummy 2
16 Human Rogue 2
17 Human Ranger 2
18 Elf Wizard 2
19 Half-Elf Cleric 3
20 Dwarf Fighter 3
21 Human Druid 3
22 Gnome Fighter 1
23 Dire Rat 1
24 Gargoyle 2
25 Half-Orc Barbarian 2
26 Spectre 1
27 Seelah, Human Paladin 3
28 Werewolf 3
29 Medusa 1
30 Minotaur 3
31 Ogre 1
32 Troll 2
33 Ettin 2
34 Chimera 1
35 Manticore 1
36 Giant Caveweaver Spider 1
37 Frost Giant 1
38 Succubus 1
39 Lich 2
40 Vampire 1
A big thank you to everyone who has submitted a case report so far. We have details on 31 cases – 24 individual cases plus a group of 2 and a group of 5. Unfortunately, there are a few that don’t total to 64 medium boosters. Updates would be greatly appreciated.
Daniel Powell 318 – Great detail. Under by 1. The commons list has 3 slot 3s, 5 slot 11s, and 3 slot 13s.
Excellent catch- I missed a pair of of blue goblins, in slot three. The watch officer in slot 11 should have been in slot 13.
Until I get a permanent storage solution, I'm keeping them in the original bricks, in their original positions. Because I'm seriously OCD.
Since at least some other people seem equally obsessive, brick breakdown, in order by increasing position number as described above, with rarity. If you find a discrepancy, let me know and I'll check my records
c1/2 red goblin warrior pack
u19 half-elf cleric
c3/4 blue goblin warrior pack
u22/23 gnome/die rat pack
c7 skeleton
r24 gargoyle
c8 watch guard
r27 Seelah
c9 watch officer
r29 medusa
c12 giant spider
(r)38 succubus
c13 wolf
u15 mummy
u17 ranger
u18 wizard
r35 minotaur
r31 ogre
(r)34 chimera
c1/2 red goblins
u20 dwarf fighter
c3/4 blue goblins
u21 human druid
c5 orc brute
r26 spectre
c6 orc warrior
r27 Seelah
c9 watch officer
r29 medusa
c10 lizardfolk
(r)40 vampire
c13 wolf
u14 snake
u15 mummy
u19 half-elf cleric
r30 minotaur
r32 troll
(r)34 chimera
c1/2 red goblins
u21 human druid
c3/4 blue goblins
u22/23 goblin/dire rat
c5 orc brute
r25 half-orc barbarian
c6 orc warrior
r26 spectre
c7 skeleton
r27 seelah
c9 watch officer
(r)40 vampire
c11 zombie
u15 mummy
u16 human rogue
u19 half-elf cleric
r31 ogre
r33 ettin
(r)36 giant caveweaver spider
c3/4 blue goblins
u20 dwarf fighter
c5 orc brute
u22/23 gnome dire/rat
c6 orc warrior
r24 gargoyle
c8 watch guard
r25 half-orc barbarian
c10 lizardfolk champion
r28 werewolf
c11 zombie
(r)39 lich
c12 giant spider
u14 venomous snake
u16 human rogue
u18 elf wizard
r30 minotaur
r32 troll
r37 frost giant
Has anyone else noticed a different pattern of common/uncommon/rare/rarer between bricks in the same case? I've seen two people (pres man and Kurgon) post identical c/u/r/(r) as me, and some people with four bricks of the same distribution different than mine. Mandor posts an interesting variation, with the front and back ranks swapped? pattern that commons are not adjacent to each other, nor are rares. There seems to be a theme that goblins tend to fill one slot, shared with orcs and skeletons but not with the watch or later commons.
If anyone wants additional detailed accounts, I volunteer to spend the time and effort recording case breakdowns. Just send me any number of sealed cases, and I will tell you exactly where everything was. ;)
I regret that I have but one brick (so far) to report. I do, however, have pictures.
01 Goblin Warrior (Red)
02 Goblin Hero (Red)
03 Goblin Warrior (Blue)
04 Goblin Hero (Blue)
05 Orc Brute
07 Skeleton
09 Watch Officer
10 Lizardfolk Champion
13 Wolf
14 Venomous Snake
17 Human Ranger
20 Dwarf Fighter
21 Human Druid
22 Gnome Fighter
23 Dire Rat
24 Gargoyle
26 Spectre
29 Medusa
31 Ogre
33 Ettin
37 Frost Giant
40 Vampire
Row 1 L to R
01 Goblin Warrior (Red) \ 02 Goblin Hero (Red)
21 Human Druid
03 Goblin Warrior (Blue) \ 04 Goblin Hero (Blue)
22 Gnome Fighter \ 23 Dire Rat
05 Orc Brute
24 Gargoyle
07 Skeleton
26 Spectre
Row 2 L to R
09 Watch Officer
29 Medusa
10 Lizardfolk Champion
40 Vampire
13 Wolf
14 Venomous Snake
17 Human Ranger
20 Dwarf Fighter
Row 3 L to R
31 Ogre
33 Ettin
37 Frost Giant
22 total minis, no duplicates.
9 Common, 6 Uncommon, 7 Rare (4 Medium, 3 Large).
All boosters were taped both top and bottom.
Nothing broken or missing. Human Ranger's bow is a bit bent.
In general, they all look much better than the pictures that I've seen thus far. An excellent set.
Has anyone else noticed a different pattern of common/uncommon/rare/rarer between bricks in the same case? I've seen two people (pres man and Kurgon) post identical c/u/r/(r) as me, and some people with four bricks of the same distribution different than mine. Mandor posts an interesting variation, with the front and back ranks swapped?
Actually, that's my mistake. I got the front and back rows mixed up in the report. I definitely pulled the 3 red goblin boosters from the first slot of the front row.
I'm going to blame the Saints' turnovers for my getting distracted and mixing up front and back.
Plenty I could comment on, but I'll just make one observation. The half-elf looks wrong somehow. But if I cover the head with my finger and thumb, I love the piece. Why do I find the head so wrong?
That's an interesting question. I think it comes down to bilateral asymmetry. Also, covering the head (to see what you're talking about) revealed that the mini has a female figure, which is normally one of the first things that I notice; so I definitely agree that there's something wrong with her head.
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Bought one case directly from Paizo. All boosters were taped.
In Brick 1 I did not keep up with positions in this first brick I opened. However, I do recall the Succubus being in the middle row 4th from Left; and the location of the Larges (L). F= Front Row of Standard Boosters, with B = Back Row (Middle Row). Same as Mandor.
#3 Goblin Warrior (Blue)
#4 Goblin Hero (Blue)
#6 Orc Warrior
#7 Skeleton
#8 Watch Guard
#9 Watch Officer
#10 Lizardfolk Champion
#12 Giant Spider
#16 Human Rogue
#17 Human Ranger
#20 Dwarf Fighter
#21 Human Druid
#22 Gnome Fighter
#23 Dire Rat
#25 Half-Orc Barbarian
#26 Spectre
#29 Medusa
#32 Troll - L1
#33 Ettin - L2
#37 Frost Giant – L3
#38 Succubus – B 4
21 Miniatures (No duplicates….so far)
#5 Orc Brute – F1
#6 Orc Warrior (2)– F 5
#7 Skeleton (2) - F 3
#9 Watch Officer (2)- F 6
#10 Lizardfolk Champion (2) – B1
#11 Zombie – B3
#13 Wolf – B5
#14 Venomous Snake – B6
#15 Mummy – B7
#17 Human Ranger (2) – F8
#18 Elf Wizard – F2
#19 Half-Elf Cleric – F4
#24 Gargoyle – F 7
#27 Seelah, Human Paladin – B8
#29 Medusa (2) – B2
#31 Ogre –L1
#33 Ettin –L2
#36 Giant Caveweaver Spider –L3
#39 Lich – B4
40 Miniatures ( 34 out of 40)
#1 Goblin Warrior (Red)– F1
#2 Goblin Hero (Red) – F1
#3 Goblin Warrior (Blue) (2) - F 6
#4 Goblin Hero (Blue) (2) - F 6
#7 Skeleton (3) – B5
#8 Watch Guard (2) – B1
#9 Watch Officer (3)- F 3
#12 Giant Spider (2) – F 8
#13 Wolf (2 )– B3
#14 Venomous Snake (2) – B8
#18 Elf Wizard (2) – B7
#20 Dwarf Fighter (2) – B6
#21 Human Druid (2) – F 2
#22 Gnome Fighter (2) – F 4
#23 Dire Rat (2) – F 4
#25 Half-Orc Barbarian (2) - B4.
#26 Spectre (2) –B2
#28 Werewolf – F 5
#31 Ogre (2) – L1
#32 Troll (2) - L2
#34 Chimera – L3
#38 Succubus (2) – F 7
62 Miniatures (37 out of 40)
#1 Goblin Warrior (Red) (2) – F1
#2 Goblin Hero (Red) (2) – F1
#5 Orc Brute (2) – F3
#6 Orc Warrior (3) – F 5
#7 Skeleton (4) - F 7
#10 Lizardfolk Champion (3) – B1
#12 Giant Spider (3) – B3
#13 Wolf (3 )– B5
#14 Venomous Snake (3) – B6
#16 Human Rogue (2) – B7
#17 Human Ranger (3) – B8
#18 Elf Wizard (3) – F2
#22 Gnome Fighter (3) – F 4
#23 Dire Rat (3) – F 4
#26 Spectre (3) –F6
#27 Seelah, Human Paladin (2) – F8
#28 Werewolf (2) – B2
#30 Minotaur – L1
#31 Ogre – L2
#35 Manticore - L3
#40 Vampire – B4
83 Miniatures (40 out of 40)
#1 Goblin Warrior (Red) (2) – F1,F1
#2 Goblin Hero (Red) (2) – F1,F1
#3 Goblin Warrior (Blue) (2) - F 6,?
#4 Goblin Hero (Blue) (2) - F 6, ?
#5 Orc Brute (2) –F1, F3
#6 Orc Warrior (3) – F 5, F5, ?
#7 Skeleton (4) –F3, B5, F 7,?
#8 Watch Guard (2) – B1 ?
#9 Watch Officer (3)- F 3, F6, ?
#10 Lizardfolk Champion (3) – B1, B1, ?B1
#11 Zombie (1) – B3
#12 Giant Spider (3) – B3 F8, ?
#13 Wolf (3 )– B3, B5, B5
#14 Venomous Snake (3) – B3, B6, B8
#15 Mummy (1) – B7
#16 Human Rogue (2) – B7, ?
#17 Human Ranger (3) – F8, B8, ?
#18 Elf Wizard (3) – F2, F2, B7
#19 Half-Elf Cleric (1) – F4
#20 Dwarf Fighter (2) – B6, ?
#21 Human Druid (2) – F2, ?
#22 Gnome Fighter (3) – F4, F4, ?
#23 Dire Rat (3) – F4, F4, ?
#24 Gargoyle (1) – F 7
#25 Half-Orc Barbarian (2) - B4, ?
#26 Spectre (3) –B2, F6, ?
#27 Seelah, Human Paladin (2) – F8, B8
#28 Werewolf (2) – F5, B2
#29 Medusa (2) – B2, ?
#30 Minotaur (1) – L1
#31 Ogre (3) – L1, L1. L2
#32 Troll (2) - L1 L2
#33 Ettin (2) –L2, L2
#34 Chimera (1) – L3
#35 Manticore (1) - L3
#36 Giant Caveweaver Spider (1) –L3
#37 Frost Giant (1) – L3
#38 Succubus (2) – F7, B4
#39 Lich (1) – B4
#40 Vampire (1) – B4
Careful with the Medusa. I have already broken the snake on one.
Later,
Mazra
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So, here's my report. Got one case and black dragon promo. The black dragon box was taped, but none of the boosters in the case were taped. I did not pay attention to positioning of anything.
I did get a full set from my case. No duplicates within a brick. Nothing broken, but a few had come lose in their plastic holders. (One dwarf was face down at the bottom of his booster - must have had too much to drink before getting packed up. 8^)
Oddly, I got the red goblins in all four bricks, but only one pair of blue goblins. Two sets of gnome/dire rat.
83 miniatures total in the case.
1 Goblin Warrior (Red)
2 Goblin Hero (Red)
5 Orc Brute
9 Watch Officer
10 Lizardfolk Champion
11 Zombie
12 Giant Spider
13 Wolf
14 Venomous Snake
15 Mummy
18 Elf Wizard
19 Half-Elf Cleric
20 Dwarf Fighter
25 Half-Orc Barbarian
27 Seelah, Human Paladin
29 Medusa
32 Troll
33 Ettin
34 Chimera
38 Succubus
1 Goblin Warrior (Red)
2 Goblin Hero (Red)
5 Orc Brute
6 Orc Warrior
7 Skeleton
8 Watch Guard
9 Watch Officer
12 Giant Spider
14 Venomous Snake
17 Human Ranger
18 Elf Wizard
20 Dwarf Fighter
21 Human Druid
24 Gargoyle
25 Half-Orc Barbarian
28 Werewolf
31 Ogre
33 Ettin
35 Manticore
40 Vampire
1 Goblin Warrior (Red)
2 Goblin Hero (Red)
6 Orc Warrior
7 Skeleton
8 Watch Guard
9 Watch Officer
12 Giant Spider
13 Wolf
16 Human Rogue
17 Human Ranger
18 Elf Wizard
21 Human Druid
22 Gnome Fighter
23 Dire Rat
24 Gargoyle
26 Spectre
28 Werewolf
30 Minotaur
32 Troll
37 Frost Giant
39 Lich
1 Goblin Warrior (Red)
2 Goblin Hero (Red)
3 Goblin Warrior (Blue)
4 Goblin Hero (Blue)
5 Orc Brute
7 Skeleton
10 Lizardfolk Champion
11 Zombie
13 Wolf
15 Mummy
17 Human Ranger
19 Half-Elf Cleric
20 Dwarf Fighter
22 Gnome Fighter
23 Dire Rat
24 Gargoyle
28 Werewolf
29 Medusa
31 Ogre
33 Ettin
36 Giant Caveweaver Spider
40 Vampire
Here's the content of my case:
Common
1 Goblin Warrior (Red) 2x
2 Goblin Hero (Red) 2x
3 Goblin Warrior (Blue) 2x
4 Goblin Hero (Blue) 2x
5 Orc Brute 2x
6 Orc Warrior 3x
7 Skeleton 4x
8 Watch Guard 2x
9 Watch Officer 3x
10 Lizardfolk Champion 3x
11 Zombie 1x
12 Giant Spider 3x
13 Wolf 3x
Uncommon
14 Venomous Snake 3x
15 Mummy 1x
16 Human Rogue 2x
17 Human Ranger 3x
18 Elf Wizard 3x
19 Half-Elf Cleric 1x
20 Dwarf Fighter 2x
21 Human Druid 2x
22 Gnome Fighter 3x
23 Dire Rat 3x
Rare
24 Gargoyle 1x
25 Half-Orc Barbarian 2x
26 Spectre 3x
27 Seelah, Human Paladin 2x
28 Werewolf 2x
29 Medusa 2x
30 Minotaur 1x
31 Ogre 3x
32 Troll 2x
33 Ettin 2x
34 Chimera 1x
35 Manticore 1x
36 Giant Caveweaver Spider 1x
37 Frost Giant 1x
38 Succubus 2x
39 Lich 1x
40 Vampire 1x
Comments:
- Commons: commons are nicely distributed, though I'd have preferred a bit more zombies and a a few orcs less. The ratio of watch officers to normal guards also makes one wonder about the structure of this watch.
- Uncommons: I guess I can use multiple rogues and rangers for my upcoming Council of Thieves campaign, but I really don't need more than one elf wizard or human druid, and especially gnome fighter.Maybe these PC types would be better suited to the rare position. Three snakes or rats is OK, but I'd have liked one more mummy, too.
- Rares: I got three spectres and three ogres, but I think that's OK, I can always use them in these numbers. Two each of half-orc barbarian, werewolf and Seelah, well, one of each would have sufficed. Two succubi and two trolls is OK, though. I don't think I'll ever need two ettins at once. I'd rather have had a second giant caveweaver spider. The trolls do look a bit tiny compared to the other Large humanoids - especially the ettin.
In the end, I got at least one of every mini and there isn't one mini in the set that I think of as completely worthless - which was never true of any of the sets from wizards. (I'm looking at you, you chraals and three-armed wrackspawns!)
One more observation: a previous poster had noticed that one booster position in the brick always yielded either a succubus, a vampire or a lich. This was true of my case, too, and I noticed that several other figures that I got multiples of seemed to come from the same position in the brick too, I think all the goblins, the rat and gnome (now that sounds like a British inn!), and also the wolf and venomous snake, as well as Seelah came from the same booster positions within the individual bricks. Maybe this should be mixed up a bit more in production, or astute buyers could take certain picks from bricks displayed in shops.
None of my boosters were taped, by the way, which made it easier to unpack. :) Two minis, the manticore and one of the ogres had separated from their bases, but that's nothing that can't be easily fixed.
Per Robert Hawkshaw's suggestion, I've put my spreadsheets into Google docs.
The one pattern that stands out to me is how regularly cases have one common with a quantity of 4 and one common with a quantity of 1. Makes me wonder if it's intentional.
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Here is what I got in my second case. A complete set.
Brick 1 - 20 minis:
Common
1 Goblin Warrior (Red) - 1
2 Goblin Hero (Red) - 1
3 Goblin Warrior (Blue) -
4 Goblin Hero (Blue) -
5 Orc Brute - 1
6 Orc Warrior - 1
7 Skeleton - 1
8 Watch Guard -
9 Watch Officer -
10 Lizardfolk Champion -
11 Zombie - 1
12 Giant Spider - 1
13 Wolf -
Uncommon
14 Venomous Snake - 1
15 Mummy - 1
16 Human Rogue -
17 Human Ranger - 1
18 Elf Wizard - 1
19 Half-Elf Cleric -
20 Dwarf Fighter -
21 Human Druid - 1
22 Gnome Fighter -
23 Dire Rat -
Rare
24 Gargoyle -
25 Half-Orc Barbarian -
26 Spectre -
27 Seelah, Human Paladin - 1
28 Werewolf - 1
29 Medusa - 1
30 Minotaur - 1
31 Ogre -
32 Troll - 1
33 Ettin -
34 Chimera - 1
35 Manticore -
36 Giant Caveweaver Spider -
37 Frost Giant -
38 Succubus -
39 Lich -
40 Vampire - 1
Brick 2 - 21 minis:
Common
1 Goblin Warrior (Red) - 1
2 Goblin Hero (Red) - 1
3 Goblin Warrior (Blue) - 1
4 Goblin Hero (Blue) - 1
5 Orc Brute -
6 Orc Warrior -
7 Skeleton -
8 Watch Guard - 1
9 Watch Officer - 1
10 Lizardfolk Champion -
11 Zombie - 1
12 Giant Spider - 1
13 Wolf - 1
Uncommon
14 Venomous Snake -
15 Mummy - 1
16 Human Rogue - 1
17 Human Ranger -
18 Elf Wizard -
19 Half-Elf Cleric - 1
20 Dwarf Fighter - 1
21 Human Druid - 1
22 Gnome Fighter -
23 Dire Rat -
Rare
24 Gargoyle -
25 Half-Orc Barbarian - 1
26 Spectre -
27 Seelah, Human Paladin - 1
28 Werewolf - 1
29 Medusa -
30 Minotaur -
31 Ogre -
32 Troll - 1
33 Ettin - 1
34 Chimera -
35 Manticore - 1
36 Giant Caveweaver Spider -
37 Frost Giant -
38 Succubus -
39 Lich - 1
40 Vampire -
Brick 3 - 21 minis:
Common
1 Goblin Warrior (Red) -
2 Goblin Hero (Red) -
3 Goblin Warrior (Blue) - 1
4 Goblin Hero (Blue) - 1
5 Orc Brute - 1
6 Orc Warrior - 1
7 Skeleton -
8 Watch Guard - 1
9 Watch Officer - 1
10 Lizardfolk Champion -
11 Zombie - 1
12 Giant Spider - 1
13 Wolf -
Uncommon
14 Venomous Snake -
15 Mummy -
16 Human Rogue - 1
17 Human Ranger - 1
18 Elf Wizard -
19 Half-Elf Cleric -
20 Dwarf Fighter - 1
21 Human Druid - 1
22 Gnome Fighter - 1
23 Dire Rat - 1
Rare
24 Gargoyle - 1
25 Half-Orc Barbarian -
26 Spectre - 1
27 Seelah, Human Paladin -
28 Werewolf -
29 Medusa - 1
30 Minotaur - 1
31 Ogre -
32 Troll -
33 Ettin - 1
34 Chimera -
35 Manticore -
36 Giant Caveweaver Spider - 1
37 Frost Giant -
38 Succubus - 1
39 Lich -
40 Vampire -
Brick 4 - 21 minis:
Common
1 Goblin Warrior (Red) - 1
2 Goblin Hero (Red) - 1
3 Goblin Warrior (Blue) - 1
4 Goblin Hero (Blue) - 1
5 Orc Brute -
6 Orc Warrior -
7 Skeleton - 1
8 Watch Guard -
9 Watch Officer - 1
10 Lizardfolk Champion - 1
11 Zombie - 1
12 Giant Spider -
13 Wolf - 1
Uncommon
14 Venomous Snake -
15 Mummy - 1
16 Human Rogue - 1
17 Human Ranger -
18 Elf Wizard - 1
19 Half-Elf Cleric - 1
20 Dwarf Fighter - 1
21 Human Druid -
22 Gnome Fighter -
23 Dire Rat -
Rare
24 Gargoyle - 1
25 Half-Orc Barbarian - 1
26 Spectre -
27 Seelah, Human Paladin -
28 Werewolf -
29 Medusa - 1
30 Minotaur -
31 Ogre - 1
32 Troll -
33 Ettin - 1
34 Chimera -
35 Manticore -
36 Giant Caveweaver Spider -
37 Frost Giant - 1
38 Succubus -
39 Lich -
40 Vampire -
First Case Total:
Common
1 Goblin Warrior (Red) - 3
2 Goblin Hero (Red) - 3
3 Goblin Warrior (Blue) - 1
4 Goblin Hero (Blue) - 1
5 Orc Brute - 3
6 Orc Warrior - 2
7 Skeleton - 2
8 Watch Guard - 3
9 Watch Officer - 3
10 Lizardfolk Champion - 3
11 Zombie - 3
12 Giant Spider - 3
13 Wolf - 2
Uncommon
14 Venomous Snake - 2
15 Mummy - 3
16 Human Rogue - 3
17 Human Ranger - 2
18 Elf Wizard - 1
19 Half-Elf Cleric - 2
20 Dwarf Fighter - 1
21 Human Druid - 3
22 Gnome Fighter - 3
23 Dire Rat - 3
Rare
24 Gargoyle - 2
25 Half-Orc Barbarian - 1
26 Spectre - 1
27 Seelah, Human Paladin - 2
28 Werewolf - 3
29 Medusa - 3
30 Minotaur - 2
31 Ogre - 2
32 Troll - 3
33 Ettin - 1
34 Chimera - 1
35 Manticore - 1
36 Giant Caveweaver Spider - 1
37 Frost Giant - 1
38 Succubus - 2
39 Lich - 1
40 Vampire - 1 (Got it in the 4th to last box in the 4th brick to complete my set.)
Commons - 32
Uncommon - 23
Rare - 28
Total - 83
Second Case Total:
Common
1 Goblin Warrior (Red) - 3
2 Goblin Hero (Red) - 3
3 Goblin Warrior (Blue) - 3
4 Goblin Hero (Blue) - 3
5 Orc Brute - 2
6 Orc Warrior - 2
7 Skeleton - 2
8 Watch Guard - 2
9 Watch Officer - 3
10 Lizardfolk Champion - 2
11 Zombie - 4
12 Giant Spider - 3
13 Wolf - 2
Uncommon
14 Venomous Snake - 1
15 Mummy - 3
16 Human Rogue - 3
17 Human Ranger - 2
18 Elf Wizard - 2
19 Half-Elf Cleric - 2
20 Dwarf Fighter - 3
21 Human Druid - 3
22 Gnome Fighter - 1
23 Dire Rat - 1
Rare
24 Gargoyle - 2
25 Half-Orc Barbarian - 2
26 Spectre - 1
27 Seelah, Human Paladin - 2
28 Werewolf - 2
29 Medusa - 3
30 Minotaur - 2
31 Ogre - 1
32 Troll - 2
33 Ettin - 3
34 Chimera - 1
35 Manticore - 1
36 Giant Caveweaver Spider - 1
37 Frost Giant - 1
38 Succubus - 1
39 Lich - 1
40 Vampire - 2
Commons - 34
Uncommon - 21
Rare - 28
Total - 83
Both Case Total:
Common
1 Goblin Warrior (Red) - 6
2 Goblin Hero (Red) - 6
3 Goblin Warrior (Blue) - 4
4 Goblin Hero (Blue) - 4
5 Orc Brute - 5
6 Orc Warrior - 4
7 Skeleton - 4
8 Watch Guard - 5
9 Watch Officer - 6
10 Lizardfolk Champion - 5
11 Zombie - 7
12 Giant Spider - 6
13 Wolf - 4
Uncommon
14 Venomous Snake - 3
15 Mummy - 6
16 Human Rogue - 6
17 Human Ranger - 4
18 Elf Wizard - 3
19 Half-Elf Cleric - 4
20 Dwarf Fighter - 4
21 Human Druid - 6
22 Gnome Fighter - 4
23 Dire Rat - 4
Rare
24 Gargoyle - 4
25 Half-Orc Barbarian - 3
26 Spectre - 2
27 Seelah, Human Paladin - 4
28 Werewolf - 5
29 Medusa - 6
30 Minotaur - 4
31 Ogre - 3
32 Troll - 4
33 Ettin - 6
34 Chimera - 2
35 Manticore - 2
36 Giant Caveweaver Spider - 2
37 Frost Giant - 2
38 Succubus - 3
39 Lich - 2
40 Vampire - 3
Commons - 66
Uncommon - 44
Rare - 56
Total - 166
The one pattern that stands out to me is how regularly cases have one common with a quantity of 4 and one common with a quantity of 1. Makes me wonder if it's intentional.
Nice work.
I'm struck by how often a 3/2/1 distribution of the less rare large minis comes up, with zero cases of a 3/3/0 or 4/2/0. Since (in our limited data) the minotaur only shows up in L1 , and the ettin only shows up in L2, I'm inclined to believe that those two slots are not equivalent. It also looks like red goblins only come in the first slot.
First time poster, and I figured I'd go ahead and post our own case experience. We got a case and the black dragon promo. Everyone arrived safely, each box taped. Some were loose in their plastic, but the vast majority of them were secure.
Common
1 Goblin Warrior (Red) - 2
2 Goblin Hero (Red) - 2
3 Goblin Warrior (Blue) - 4
4 Goblin Hero (Blue) - 4
5 Orc Brute - 3
6 Orc Warrior - 2
7 Skeleton - 3
8 Watch Guard - 2
9 Watch Officer - 3
10 Lizardfolk Champion - 2
11 Zombie - 3
12 Giant Spider - 2
13 Wolf - 2
Uncommon
14 Venomous Snake - 2
15 Mummy - 3
16 Human Rogue - 2
17 Human Ranger - 3
18 Elf Wizard - 3
19 Half-Elf Cleric - 1
20 Dwarf Fighter - 2
21 Human Druid - 3
22 Gnome Fighter - 1
23 Dire Rat - 1
Rare
24 Gargoyle - 3
25 Half-Orc Barbarian - 2
26 Spectre - 1
27 Seelah, Human Paladin - 2
28 Werewolf - 1
29 Medusa - 3
30 Minotaur - 2
31 Ogre - 1
32 Troll - 3
33 Ettin - 2
34 Chimera - 1
35 Manticore - 1
36 Giant Caveweaver Spider - 1
37 Frost Giant - 1
38 Succubus - 2
39 Lich - 1
40 Vampire - 1
I opened my case during the weekend. I was too excited when opening the first two bricks to note the positions, but I did for the last two. In all four cases, I did notice that the lich/vampire/succubus slot was consistent with other reports, as well as the chimera/manticore/spider/frost giant large slot on the far right.
#1 red goblin warrior 2x
#2 red goblin hero 2x
#3 blue goblin warrior 1x
#4 blue goblin hero 1x
#5 orc brute 2x
#6 orc warrior 1x
#8 watch guard 1x
#9 watch officer 2x
#10 lizardfolk champion
#12 giant spider 2x
#13 wolf 1x
#14 venomous snake 2x
#15 mummy 1x
#16 human rogue 1x
#17 human ranger 2x
#19 half elf cleric 1x
#20 Dwarf Fighter 1x
#21 human druid 1x
#22 gnome fighter 1x
#23 dire rat 1x
#24 gargoyle 1x
#25 half orc barbarian 1x
#27 seelah 2x
#28 werewolf 1x
#29 medusa 1x
#31 ogre 2x
#32 troll 1x
#33 ettin 1x
#34 chimera 1x
#35 manticore 1x
#38 succubus 1x
#40 vampire 1x
Front row, left to right
red goblin hero, warrior
human druid
yellow goblin hero, warrior
gnome fighter, dire rat
orc brute
half orc barbarian
skeleton
spectre
Middle row, left to right
lizardfolk champion
werewolf
zombie
lich
giant spider
snake
half elf cleric
dwarf warrior
back row, left to right
minotaur
troll
frost giant
Front row left to right
blue goblin hero, blue goblin warrior
elf wizard
orc warrior
half elf cleric
skeleton
gargoyle
watch guard
half-orc barbarian
Middle row
watch officer
spectre
lizardfolk champion
vampire
wolf
skeleton
human rogue
human ranger
Back Row
ogre
ettin
giant caveweaver spider
In general, I'm pretty happy with these. I got a full set and none were broken when they arrived. I did notice a few, especially the large minis were out of their plastic retainer, but nothing major. There was no tape on top or bottom of any of the booster boxes. I didn't previously own any miniatures besides a few PC miniatures, so this has been a good way to get a lot of useful minis and not a lot of duds. I have also been very impressed with the participation and openness of the Paizo employees in both this thread and the H&M discussion thread. As a result, Paizo has gone from a company I knew nothing about to one that I think pretty highly of.
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Okay I will report soon. I think I can list my bricks. I noticed a bit of a pattern with the large minis even after 3 bricks. The middle large is always an Ettin for me.
Also of interest... In my first brick I found a half Orc figure on a werewolf base. It was four in from the right in the front row of small boosters.
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The one pattern that stands out to me is how regularly cases have one common with a quantity of 4 and one common with a quantity of 1. Makes me wonder if it's intentional.Nice work.
I'm struck by how often a 3/2/1 distribution of the less rare large minis comes up, with zero cases of a 3/3/0 or 4/2/0. Since (in our limited data) the minotaur only shows up in L1 , and the ettin only shows up in L2, I'm inclined to believe that those two slots are not equivalent. It also looks like red goblins only come in the first slot.
Hate to burst your bubble, but that was not the case (no pun) with me. I opened my second case yesterday and got 2 minotaurs and 3 ettins. The minotaurs were in L1 & L2, while the ettins were in L2 & L3.
As for the red goblins, they were everywhere.
I originally kept the minis in opened order, but have since mixed them, so can't provide that level of detail, but I can provide a summary of my case :)
Common
#1 Goblin Warrior (Red) - 2
#2 Goblin Hero (Red) - 2
#3 Goblin Warrior (Blue) - 3
#4 Goblin Hero (Blue) - 3
#5 Orc Brute - 3
#6 Orc Warrior - 4
#7 Skeleton - 2
#8 Watch Guard - 3
#9 Watch Officer - 3
#10 Lizardfolk Champion - 1
#11 Zombie - 2
#12 Giant Spider - 2
#13 Wolf - 3
Uncommon
#14 Venomous Snake - 2
#15 Mummy - 2
#16 Human Rogue - 2
#17 Human Ranger - 2
#18 Elf Wizard - 3 (One of which is labelled on the base as a Medusa)
#19 Half-Elf Cleric - 2
#20 Dwarf Fighter - 3
#21 Human Druid - 2
#22 Gnome Fighter - 2
#23 Dire Rat - 2
Rare
#24 Gargoyle - 1
#25 Half-Orc Barbarian - 2
#26 Spectre - 3
#27 Seelah, Human Paladin - 1
#28 Werewolf - 2
#29 Medusa - 3
#30 Minotaur - 2 (One come off his base in packaging)
#31 Ogre - 2
#32 Troll - 1
#33 Ettin - 3
#34 Chimera - 1
#35 Manticore - 1
#36 Giant Caveweaver Spider - 1
#37 Frost Giant - 1
#38 Succubus - 1
#39 Lich - 1
#40 Vampire - 2
Totals
Common = 33
Uncommon = 22
Rare = 28
Total = 83
I also noticed that most of my Orc miniatures had come out of the plastic holding, and the small miniatures seemed more prone to this as well. No damage to any miniatures that I have detected yet. All but one boxes (the first I opened in my first case) were taped/sealed properly.
Overall impression:
Pretty happy. Noticed most of the things everyone else already pointed out (and mentioned above), size discrepancies, coming out of plastic or off bases in transport (I live in Australia for reference), incorrect base for one mini. Definitely be keeping my subscription.
Still waiting on my Black Dragon sadly...
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Here is a link to a google document with my case count.
There are also some comments on quantity and quality.
Happy with my case! Got lots of orcs and goblins. Good stuff.
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I bought my case and dragon and opened it and was really pleased with what I got. The boosters were taped shut.
Here is my haul:
Common
#1 Goblin Warrior (Red) - 3
#2 Goblin Hero (Red) - 3
#3 Goblin Warrior (Blue) - 3
#4 Goblin Hero (Blue) - 3
#5 Orc Brute - 1
#6 Orc Warrior - 2
#7 Skeleton - 3
#8 Watch Guard - 3
#9 Watch Officer - 3
#10 Lizardfolk Champion - 2
#11 Zombie - 2
#12 Giant Spider - 3
#13 Wolf - 3
Uncommon
#14 Venomous Snake - 3
#15 Mummy - 3
#16 Human Rogue - 1
#17 Human Ranger - 2
#18 Elf Wizard - 2
#19 Half-Elf Cleric - 3
#20 Dwarf Fighter - 1
#21 Human Druid - 2
#22 Gnome Fighter - 3
#23 Dire Rat - 3
Rare
#24 Gargoyle - 2
#25 Half-Orc Barbarian - 1
#26 Spectre - 2
#27 Seelah, Human Paladin - 3
#28 Werewolf - 1
#29 Medusa - 3
#30 Minotaur - 3
#31 Ogre - 2
#32 Troll - 2
#33 Ettin - 1
#34 Chimera - 1
#35 Manticore - 1
#36 Giant Caveweaver Spider - 1
#37 Frost Giant - 1
#38 Succubus - 2
#39 Lich - 1
#40 Vampire - 1
Totals
Common = 34
Uncommon = 23
Rare = 28
Total = 85
I can't wait for the next set!
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I've counted left to right, back to front, so 1-3 are large, 4-11 is the middle row and 12-19 is the front row.
Commentary: the only damaged mini I had was the Minotaur, who had popped from the base, but also popped right back in. It was interesting (and a bit worrying at the time!) that there were 10/19 boosters the same between Bricks A&B, 8 of them in the same slot. I had almost all the minis by the end of Brick C, with just the Manticore missing, which given what I'd heard in this thread I was pretty certain was going to be in D.
1 Ogre
2 Frost Giant
3 Troll
4 Zombie
5 Medusa
6 Giant Spider
7 Vampire
8 Wolf
9 Venomous Snake
10 Human Rogue
11 Human Ranger
12 Goblin Warrior (Red) & Goblin Hero (Red)
13 Half-Elf Cleric
14 Skeleton
15 Gnome Fighter & Dire Rat
16 Watch Guard
17 Spectre
18 Watch Officer
19 Seelah, Human Paladin
1 Troll
2 Ettin
3 Giant Caveweaver Spider
4 Zombie
5 Medusa
6 Giant Spider
7 Succubus
8 Wolf
9 Venomous Snake
10 Mummy
11 Elf Wizard
12 Goblin Warrior (Blue) & Goblin Hero (Blue)
13 Half-Elf Cleric
14 Orc Brute
15 Human Druid
16 Skeleton
17 Spectre
18 Watch Officer
19 Werewolf
1 Minotaur
2 Ettin
3 Chimera
4 Zombie
5 Werewolf
6 Giant Spider
7 Lich
8 Wolf
9 Mummy
10 Elf Wizard
11 Half-Elf Cleric
12 Goblin Warrior (Blue) & Goblin Hero (Blue)
13 Dwarf Fighter
14 Orc Warrior
15 Human Druid
16 Watch Officer
17 Gargoyle
18 Lizardfolk Champion
19 Half-Orc Barbarian
1 Ogre
2 Troll
3 Manticore
4 Watch Guard
5 Medusa
6 Lizardfolk Champion
7 Succubus
8 Giant Spider
9 Venomous Snake
10Mummy
11 Human Rogue
12 Goblin Warrior (Red) & Goblin Hero (Red)
13 Human Ranger
14 Goblin Warrior (Blue) & Goblin Hero (Blue)
15 Gnome Fighter & Dire Rat
16 Orc Warrior
17 Spectre
18 Skeleton
19 Seelah, Human Paladin
1 Goblin Warrior (Red) 2
2 Goblin Hero (Red) 2
3 Goblin Warrior (Blue) 3
4 Goblin Hero (Blue) 3
5 Orc Brute 1
6 Orc Warrior 2
7 Skeleton 3
8 Watch Guard 2
9 Watch Officer 3
10 Lizardfolk Champion 2
11 Zombie 3
12 Giant Spider 4
13 Wolf Common 3
14 Venomous Snake 3
15 Mummy 3
16 Human Rogue 2
17 Human Ranger 2
18 Elf Wizard 1
19 Half-Elf Cleric 3
20 Dwarf Fighter 1
21 Human Druid 1
22 Gnome Fighter 2
23 Dire Rat 2
24 Gargoyle 1
25 Half-Orc Barbarian 1
26 Spectre 3
27 Seelah, Human Paladin 2
28 Werewolf 2
29 Medusa 3
30 Minotaur 1
31 Ogre 2
32 Troll 3
33 Ettin 2
34 Chimera 1
35 Manticore 1
36 Giant Caveweaver Spider 1
37 Frost Giant 1
38 Succubus 2
39 Lich 1
40 Vampire 1
The one pattern that stands out to me is how regularly cases have one common with a quantity of 4 and one common with a quantity of 1. Makes me wonder if it's intentional.Nice work.
I'm struck by how often a 3/2/1 distribution of the less rare large minis comes up, with zero cases of a 3/3/0 or 4/2/0. Since (in our limited data) the minotaur only shows up in L1 , and the ettin only shows up in L2, I'm inclined to believe that those two slots are not equivalent. It also looks like red goblins only come in the first slot.
Hate to burst your bubble, but that was not the case (no pun) with me. I opened my second case yesterday and got 2 minotaurs and 3 ettins. The minotaurs were in L1 & L2, while the ettins were in L2 & L3.
As for the red goblins, they were everywhere.
Did you get any duplicates within a brick, and were all the ultra-rare medium minis in the same spot? Was that spot roughly the center of the middle row?
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Did you get any duplicates within a brick, and were all the ultra-rare medium minis in the same spot? Was that spot roughly the center of the middle row?
The one pattern that stands out to me is how regularly cases have one common with a quantity of 4 and one common with a quantity of 1. Makes me wonder if it's intentional.Nice work.
I'm struck by how often a 3/2/1 distribution of the less rare large minis comes up, with zero cases of a 3/3/0 or 4/2/0. Since (in our limited data) the minotaur only shows up in L1 , and the ettin only shows up in L2, I'm inclined to believe that those two slots are not equivalent. It also looks like red goblins only come in the first slot.
Hate to burst your bubble, but that was not the case (no pun) with me. I opened my second case yesterday and got 2 minotaurs and 3 ettins. The minotaurs were in L1 & L2, while the ettins were in L2 & L3.
As for the red goblins, they were everywhere.
My ultra-rare medium minis always came in the middle row, second box from the left. I also got rares in the middle row fourth from the left, and front row second and third or fourth from the right (I can't remember which). I never duplicated a mini in a brick.
My ultra-rare medium minis always came in the middle row, second box from the left. I also got rares in the middle row fourth from the left, and front row second and third or fourth from the right (I can't remember which). I never duplicated a mini in a brick.Did you get any duplicates within a brick, and were all the ultra-rare medium minis in the same spot? Was that spot roughly the center of the middle row?
The one pattern that stands out to me is how regularly cases have one common with a quantity of 4 and one common with a quantity of 1. Makes me wonder if it's intentional.Nice work.
I'm struck by how often a 3/2/1 distribution of the less rare large minis comes up, with zero cases of a 3/3/0 or 4/2/0. Since (in our limited data) the minotaur only shows up in L1 , and the ettin only shows up in L2, I'm inclined to believe that those two slots are not equivalent. It also looks like red goblins only come in the first slot.
Hate to burst your bubble, but that was not the case (no pun) with me. I opened my second case yesterday and got 2 minotaurs and 3 ettins. The minotaurs were in L1 & L2, while the ettins were in L2 & L3.
As for the red goblins, they were everywhere.
Thanks! That's strong evidence that the detailed data we have so far is not representative of overall conditions. More data is needed, and unfortunately, the people most likely to be able to gather that data have already opened their cases and probably didn't track locations.
I'm new to the whole mini market but I was curious as to what constitutes "rare." I assume it's Paizo's production team that sets that classification but in one instance I am just not seeing the justification. Specifically I am referring to the Half-Orc Barbarian.
I have a buddy who unpacked 3 from his case. I pulled 1 from a brick and another off a single booster buy. I know my experience is inadmissible as evidence of its rarity but it made me wonder about how rare is "rare." According to your aggregate data there are other "rares" that are more common than several "uncommon" and even one (#10 Lizardfolk Champion) "common."
When I opened the single booster that contained the HO Barbarian I was excited with the prospect of trading a rare I already possessed for something else I needed. After discovering they sell for $3.00 online (not including shipping) I began to wonder if they had any trade value at all. Any thoughts on this?
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I got a single brick. No duplicates to report.
5 Orc Brute
6 Orc Warrior
8 Watch Guard
10 Lizardfolk Champion
11 Zombie
12 Giant Spider
13 Wolf
16 Human Rogue
17 Human Ranger
19 Half-Elf Cleric
20 Dwarf Fighter
22 Gnome Fighter
23 Dire Rat
26 Spectre
28 Werewolf
29 Medusa
30 Minotaur
33 Ettin
35 Manticore
39 Lich
I tracked the figures as I opened them. The three things that stood out were a) there were no rares in the front row left; b) no commons in the second row right; and c) the ultra rare lich was in the second row, third from left.
In terms of figure quality, I'm very pleased with sculpts and paints of the set, with only the zombie's color looking a little lackluster. Even the wolf, with approximately six pin-drops of paint to his name, looked better.
Thanks! That's strong evidence that the detailed data we have so far is not representative of overall conditions. More data is needed, and unfortunately, the people most likely to be able to gather that data have already opened their cases and probably didn't track locations.
I think the location pattern we've been seeing, which matches what Auggie observered with his 30 cases, is probably the norm. But it could be clustering and Charles Scholz is part of a different cluster. Unfortunately, we won't get too many more detailed case reports. It's something we need to ask people for when the Runelords set is about to come out.
I'm new to the whole mini market but I was curious as to what constitutes "rare." I assume it's Paizo's production team that sets that classification but in one instance I am just not seeing the justification. Specifically I am referring to the Half-Orc Barbarian.
I have a buddy who unpacked 3 from his case. I pulled 1 from a brick and another off a single booster buy. I know my experience is inadmissible as evidence of its rarity but it made me wonder about how rare is "rare." According to your aggregate data there are other "rares" that are more common than several "uncommon" and even one (#10 Lizardfolk Champion) "common."
When I opened the single booster that contained the HO Barbarian I was excited with the prospect of trading a rare I already possessed for something else I needed. After discovering they sell for $3.00 online (not including shipping) I began to wonder if they had any trade value at all. Any thoughts on this?
WizKids is known for not having stable rarities - i.e. some commons are more common than other commons - and not sharing that data with their customers. It's obvious that has happened with this set as well. The cases data people are reporting help Swiftbrook refine his frequency numbers and adds data to those of us keeping spreadsheets to find patterns. It may end up being that a certain rare show up more frequently than a certain common.
As you can see from the data we have so far, there are only small differences between the pull frequency of rares and commons. Excluding the ultra rares, its a ratio of 1 to 1.5.
As for the Half Orc Barbarian, our data shows it as the least pulled rare by a very small margin. But it's a PC mini. DMs generally want multiples of monster minis but don't need multiples of PC minis. So there is low demand for it compared to a Medusa or Gargoyle.
Sveden – Your report is one booster short. Probably an uncommon from Brick 4.
Enlight_Bystand – Thanks for the detailed report. The Set Summary was short two uncommons which were easy enough to find from the bricks – Elf Wizard and Human Druid should both be 2.
goldsaturn27 – Report is missing one booster. Probably a common.
Bagpuss – Report has two extra boosters. Uncommons are 3 higher than normal and rares are 1 less than normal.
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Sveden – Your report is one booster short. Probably an uncommon from Brick 4.
Enlight_Bystand – Thanks for the detailed report. The Set Summary was short two uncommons which were easy enough to find from the bricks – Elf Wizard and Human Druid should both be 2.
goldsaturn27 – Report is missing one booster. Probably a common.
Bagpuss – Report has two extra boosters. Uncommons are 3 higher than normal and rares are 1 less than normal.
Sorry!
I counted the two types of data seperatly - the positional stuff on a chart with exact spacing, the totals by a tally on Kor's checklist. I suspected I might not have kept 100% with the tallies, but forgot to compare it back.
Anyone want to play "Guess the missing booster?"
Based on your case contents and the limited brick breakdowns we have, I'd guess a toss up between a Human Rogue or Human Ranger. I'll go Ranger.
Common
1 Goblin Warrior (Red) 2
2 Goblin Hero (Red) 2
3 Goblin Warrior (Blue) 1
4 Goblin Hero (Blue) 1
5 Orc Brute 2
6 Orc Warrior 2
7 Skeleton 2
8 Watch Guard 1
9 Watch Officer 1
10 Lizardfolk Champion 1
11 Zombie 2
12 Giant Spider
13 Wolf
Uncommon
14 Venomous Snake
15 Mummy 2
16 Human Rogue 1
17 Human Ranger
18 Elf Wizard 1
19 Half-Elf Cleric 1
20 Dwarf Fighter 1
21 Human Druid 2
22 Gnome Fighter 2
23 Dire Rat 2
Rare
24 Gargoyle 1
25 Half-Orc Barbarian 1
26 Spectre 2
27 Seelah, Human Paladin 2
28 Werewolf
29 Medusa
30 Minotaur
31 Ogre 1
32 Troll 1
33 Ettin 2
34 Chimera
35 Manticore 1
36 Giant Caveweaver Spider 1
37 Frost Giant
38 Succubus
39 Lich 1
40 Vampire 1
2 bricks (separate sources, FLGS & Miniature Market, both a lot cheaper than everywhere else I’ve seen) No duplicates in each brick. Sorry, can't break it down by brick.
One Seelah was off its base and its shield arm was detached. Easily fixed with glue since the little pegs had not snapped on either the arm or the base.
Very disappointed in the Druid (I could see offering this to a player and having them ask, “Do you have an actual druid mini?”) a little disappointed in the Mummy (but really, it’s a Mummy, what are you gonna do?) and the scale issues (Troll seems very small for a large creature, Ettin seems a little big for large). The Goblins are awesome and I’m thrilled to have 6 of them. Generally pleased with everything else. Overall it was worth the money to buy 2 bricks and get 3/4ths of the set.
I grabbed my case last night. I love the dragon. The FLGS owner hadn't opened any packs yet, so I opened a few there.
I mentioned that there was predictable seeding, and his immediate reaction was to mix up the case he had on the shelf. He laughed as I pulled out 2 rares first (medusa then vampire, middle row 2nd and 4th from the left). Then I said "I want to see some goblins," opened the 3rd pack, left corner, and pulled out goblins. I haven't opened any more, but those 3 spots seem to be consistent. My case is from the taped part of the shipment.
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Anyone want to play "Guess the missing booster?"Based on your case contents and the limited brick breakdowns we have, I'd guess a toss up between a Human Rogue or Human Ranger. I'll go Ranger.
Great googly moogly I think you may be right. I didn't count last night but as it stands I'm 95% sure I got three rogues but only have 2 of them marked on the sheet.
Anyone want to trade a rogue for a ranger? >:)
OK, my case arrived Wednesday and here are the overall results.
Common
1 Goblin Warrior (Red) 2
2 Goblin Hero (Red) 2
3 Goblin Warrior (Blue) 4
4 Goblin Hero (Blue) 4
5 Orc Brute 2
6 Orc Warrior 1
7 Skeleton 2
8 Watch Guard 2
9 Watch Officer 3
10 Lizardfolk Champion 3
11 Zombie 4
12 Giant Spider 3
13 Wolf 2
Uncommon
14 Venomous Snake 2
15 Mummy 2
16 Human Rogue 3
17 Human Ranger 2
18 Elf Wizard 2
19 Half-Elf Cleric 3
20 Dwarf Fighter 2
21 Human Druid 2
22 Gnome Fighter 2
23 Dire Rat 2
Rare
24 Gargoyle 2
25 Half-Orc Barbarian 3
26 Spectre 1
27 Seelah, Human Paladin 2
28 Werewolf 1
29 Medusa 3
30 Minotaur 2
31 Ogre 2
32 Troll 1
33 Ettin 3
34 Chimera 1
35 Manticore 1
36 Giant Caveweaver Spider 1
37 Frost Giant 1
38 Succubus 2
39 Lich 1
40 Vampire 1
Grand Total 84 minis.
Pros:
Overall I've happy with the set.
Great Human Ranger
Colorful Gnome Fighter
Cons:
The Dire Rat is in dire need of a reduction spell. Way too big.
Why is the Druid carrying a bedroll?
The Human Rogue pose looks cartoonish
Too many goblins (as I already had several from WotC sets)
My Chimera has green splotches below the green head. Looks like a sloppy paint job. Otherwise I like the figure.
Not enough Frost Giants in a case. Two weapons should dictate two Frost Giants per case.
I don't like the foot pads.
-Swiftbrook
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Looks like I'm at it again!