Prestige and Gold use


Pathfinder Society

3/5

Can you use Prestige points and gold to purchase an item in the society? For example, you wanted to buy +1 armor so you use the 2pp for 750 gold then use gold on hand to pay the rest off?

I want to say no, but honestly I can't find anywhere that says that you can't.

The Exchange 2/5

Tarma wrote:

Can you use Prestige points and gold to purchase an item in the society? For example, you wanted to buy +1 armor so you use the 2pp for 750 gold then use gold on hand to pay the rest off?

I want to say no, but honestly I can't find anywhere that says that you can't.

No, because anything you spend PP to get has a cash value of zero gp.


Item purchases with PP are restricted to one item, once a scenario and must be equal or less than the amount the prestige is giving you. You can't use it for a partial payment and you can't keep the change for items that cost less.

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Howdy, Tarma.

You raise a pretty common question; a lot of people read the Guide:

Quote:
Free purchase up to 750 gp: Once per session, you can acquire any single item of this cost or less from your faction by spending the appropriate PP. Items purchased this way are worth 0 gp and cannot be sold.

and they mis-read that as "you can acquire acquire 750 gold pieces".

The Guide is specific. You can acquire an item. I suppose somebody could argue the left epaulette of a suit of magical armor might cost 750 gp, but that wouldn't fly at my table.

3/5

Thanks!

I wasn't seeing it as you get 750 gold, more as a favor worth that amount. From that view, then you could pay gold on top of that to get the item needed.

The Exchange 5/5

I'm thinking of getting a Masterwork Long Composite Bow (STR 16) for 2PP. (normal cost would be 100+300+300 or 700).
THEN spending 2000 gp to have it enchanted to (+1). but these two events may be on two very different ARs (like my 2nd and my 9th).

but then I would have a magic weapon with a GP value of only 2000gp, not 2700 as it would normally be, right?

Sovereign Court 1/5

nosig wrote:

I'm thinking of getting a Masterwork Long Composite Bow (STR 16) for 2PP. (normal cost would be 100+300+300 or 700).

THEN spending 2000 gp to have it enchanted to (+1). but these two events may be on two very different ARs (like my 2nd and my 9th).

but then I would have a magic weapon with a GP value of only 2000gp, not 2700 as it would normally be, right?

If they respect you enough to give you a bow they should respect you enough to make it Darkwood.

Grand Lodge 4/5 5/55/5 ***

nosig wrote:
but then I would have a magic weapon with a GP value of only 2000gp, not 2700 as it would normally be, right?

For the purposes of re-sale value, yes. If you decided to sell it, you would earn 1000gp.

The key part of the rule is that you can obtain a single item worth up to 750gp, not that much gold to add to your spending. Once you acquire the item, you can enhance it following the normal rules, but the value of the initial acquisition, using prestige, has a value of zero.

Note, this does not impact the "value" of the item for the purposes of spending limits based on Fame. In this example, the bow would be worth 2700gp. If you wanted to add another +1, which would increase the total value of the item to 8700gp, you would need a minimum Fame of 27. Even so, the item would only re-sale for 4,000gp.
I think my math is correct ;-)

Liberty's Edge 4/5

Mad Alchemist wrote:
nosig wrote:

I'm thinking of getting a Masterwork Long Composite Bow (STR 16) for 2PP. (normal cost would be 100+300+300 or 700).

THEN spending 2000 gp to have it enchanted to (+1). but these two events may be on two very different ARs (like my 2nd and my 9th).

but then I would have a magic weapon with a GP value of only 2000gp, not 2700 as it would normally be, right?

If they respect you enough to give you a bow they should respect you enough to make it Darkwood.

Been there, done that. Darkwood Masterwork Composite Longbow (Str +3) costs 730 gp, so still in the 2 PP range.

And yes, +1 would cost 2,000 gp, and has no Fame prerequisite, since +1 weapons are an always available item.

+2 (or adding a +1 bonus enhancement like Seeking) would cost an additional 6,000 gp, and require enough Fame (27) to buy something with a total cost of 8,730 gp.

The Exchange 5/5

Callarek wrote:
Mad Alchemist wrote:
nosig wrote:

I'm thinking of getting a Masterwork Long Composite Bow (STR 16) for 2PP. (normal cost would be 100+300+300 or 700).

THEN spending 2000 gp to have it enchanted to (+1). but these two events may be on two very different ARs (like my 2nd and my 9th).

but then I would have a magic weapon with a GP value of only 2000gp, not 2700 as it would normally be, right?

If they respect you enough to give you a bow they should respect you enough to make it Darkwood.

Been there, done that. Darkwood Masterwork Composite Longbow (Str +3) costs 730 gp, so still in the 2 PP range.

And yes, +1 would cost 2,000 gp, and has no Fame prerequisite, since +1 weapons are an always available item.

+2 (or adding a +1 bonus enhancement like Seeking) would cost an additional 6,000 gp, and require enough Fame (27) to buy something with a total cost of 8,730 gp.

But have you done it for a Halfling Barbarian that only has the 16 STR when he rages? (not that this is what I'm doing or anything.... ;)

Liberty's Edge 4/5

nosig wrote:
But have you done it for a Halfling Barbarian that only has the 16 STR when he rages? (not that this is what I'm doing or anything.... ;)

No, but I did something similar for a character of mine in LG, who was an archer with a level of Barbarian, so I had a second bow, with the higher Strength limit, for him to pull out when he raged while doing ranged attacks.

Human, Fighter 4, Barbarian 1, Pious Templar 3, Order of the Bow Initiate 1, I think, when LG ended.
Str 16, 20 when Raging

The Exchange 5/5

Callarek wrote:
nosig wrote:
But have you done it for a Halfling Barbarian that only has the 16 STR when he rages? (not that this is what I'm doing or anything.... ;)

No, but I did something similar for a character of mine in LG, who was an archer with a level of Barbarian, so I had a second bow, with the higher Strength limit, for him to pull out when he raged while doing ranged attacks.

Human, Fighter 4, Barbarian 1, Pious Templar 3, Order of the Bow Initiate 1, I think, when LG ended.
Str 16, 20 when Raging

I always figured a Quiver of Ellonia held 3 bows so that you could have one for normal (str xx), one for rageing (str xx+4), and one for fatigued - after rageing (str xx-2), for those long shooting combats.

That's for takeing me back.

Silver Crusade 4/5 5/5

nosig wrote:
Callarek wrote:
nosig wrote:
But have you done it for a Halfling Barbarian that only has the 16 STR when he rages? (not that this is what I'm doing or anything.... ;)

No, but I did something similar for a character of mine in LG, who was an archer with a level of Barbarian, so I had a second bow, with the higher Strength limit, for him to pull out when he raged while doing ranged attacks.

Human, Fighter 4, Barbarian 1, Pious Templar 3, Order of the Bow Initiate 1, I think, when LG ended.
Str 16, 20 when Raging

I always figured a Quiver of Ellonia held 3 bows so that you could have one for normal (str xx), one for rageing (str xx+4), and one for fatigued - after rageing (str xx-2), for those long shooting combats.

That's for takeing me back.

OMG Ya'll is taking the long complicated route on variable strength situations for composite bows. Forget adding any strength number and just put the Adaptive enhancement on it for a mere 1k gp. SHAZAM! The bow is any strength you need it to be, one bow for all purposes.

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You necroed a thread from back in 2011, adaptive was not avaiable back then

Sovereign Court 5/5 5/55/5

Edenwaith wrote:
nosig wrote:
Callarek wrote:
nosig wrote:
But have you done it for a Halfling Barbarian that only has the 16 STR when he rages? (not that this is what I'm doing or anything.... ;)

No, but I did something similar for a character of mine in LG, who was an archer with a level of Barbarian, so I had a second bow, with the higher Strength limit, for him to pull out when he raged while doing ranged attacks.

Human, Fighter 4, Barbarian 1, Pious Templar 3, Order of the Bow Initiate 1, I think, when LG ended.
Str 16, 20 when Raging

I always figured a Quiver of Ellonia held 3 bows so that you could have one for normal (str xx), one for rageing (str xx+4), and one for fatigued - after rageing (str xx-2), for those long shooting combats.

That's for takeing me back.

OMG Ya'll is taking the long complicated route on variable strength situations for composite bows. Forget adding any strength number and just put the Adaptive enhancement on it for a mere 1k gp. SHAZAM! The bow is any strength you need it to be, one bow for all purposes.

Especially since they were talking about 3.5...

Silver Crusade 4/5 5/5

Illeist wrote:
Edenwaith wrote:
nosig wrote:
Callarek wrote:
nosig wrote:
But have you done it for a Halfling Barbarian that only has the 16 STR when he rages? (not that this is what I'm doing or anything.... ;)

No, but I did something similar for a character of mine in LG, who was an archer with a level of Barbarian, so I had a second bow, with the higher Strength limit, for him to pull out when he raged while doing ranged attacks.

Human, Fighter 4, Barbarian 1, Pious Templar 3, Order of the Bow Initiate 1, I think, when LG ended.
Str 16, 20 when Raging

I always figured a Quiver of Ellonia held 3 bows so that you could have one for normal (str xx), one for rageing (str xx+4), and one for fatigued - after rageing (str xx-2), for those long shooting combats.

That's for takeing me back.

OMG Ya'll is taking the long complicated route on variable strength situations for composite bows. Forget adding any strength number and just put the Adaptive enhancement on it for a mere 1k gp. SHAZAM! The bow is any strength you need it to be, one bow for all purposes.
Especially since they were talking about 3.5...

My bads ya'lls. I simply clicked on the latest updated post and responded. Huh, three years old and people are still responding to it. Who woulda thunk it.

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