paizo.com Recent Posts in Nekogami Return (Complete with Tiers)paizo.com Recent Posts in Nekogami Return (Complete with Tiers)2012-06-20T16:59:42Z2012-06-20T16:59:42ZRe: Forums: Advanced Race Guide Playtest: Nekogami Return (Complete with Tiers)Luminiere Solashttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2nb4a?Nekogami-Return#222012-03-13T21:43:27Z2012-03-13T21:43:27Z<p>[Spoiler omitted]</p>
<p>i reworked the modifiers, but dropped the bonus feat in favor of natural armor. it's still a powerful martial race, but that was the intent. it's 10 points even with only a single advanced ability that shouldn't have been advanced to begin with. now it shouldn't step too hard on human toes.</p>[Spoiler omitted]
i reworked the modifiers, but dropped the bonus feat in favor of natural armor. it's still a powerful martial race, but that was the intent. it's 10 points even with only a single advanced ability that shouldn't have been advanced to begin with. now it shouldn't step too hard on human toes.Luminiere Solas2012-03-13T21:43:27ZRe: Forums: Advanced Race Guide Playtest: Nekogami Return (Complete with Tiers)Luminiere Solashttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2nb4a?Nekogami-Return#212012-01-13T08:54:51Z2012-01-13T08:54:51Z<p>[Spoiler omitted]</p>
<p>Version 3.9, i beleive it's not as powerful as it once was.</p>[Spoiler omitted]
Version 3.9, i beleive it's not as powerful as it once was.Luminiere Solas2012-01-13T08:54:51ZRe: Forums: Advanced Race Guide Playtest: Nekogami Return (Complete with Tiers)Luminiere Solashttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2nb4a?Nekogami-Return#202011-12-29T20:00:09Z2011-12-29T20:00:09Z<p>you can post Holstuar info if you wish. and thinking of such relations could help your homebrew.</p>you can post Holstuar info if you wish. and thinking of such relations could help your homebrew.Luminiere Solas2011-12-29T20:00:09ZRe: Forums: Advanced Race Guide Playtest: Nekogami Return (Complete with Tiers)Icyshadowhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2nb4a?Nekogami-Return#192011-12-29T09:26:57Z2011-12-29T09:26:57Z<p>Aaaah, okay.</p>
<p>...why did I suddenly start to think of the relations between the Nekogami and my Holstaurs? Maybe part of me wants to stick to the actual topic and the other wants to take over this with my own race. =P</p>Aaaah, okay.
...why did I suddenly start to think of the relations between the Nekogami and my Holstaurs? Maybe part of me wants to stick to the actual topic and the other wants to take over this with my own race. =PIcyshadow2011-12-29T09:26:57ZRe: Forums: Advanced Race Guide Playtest: Nekogami Return (Complete with Tiers)Luminiere Solashttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2nb4a?Nekogami-Return#182011-12-29T09:20:01Z2011-12-29T09:20:01Z<p>by social penalty, i mean being unable to wear normal shoes and having to commission custom footwear. which could be dependant on the setting or enviroment. the social part would be gathering information and estabilishing connections to help you find someone willing to take the commission. which could have "finder's fees" of the DM's preference. same penalties i would inflict on anyone searching for custom equipment of the nonstandard variety for a given region. like the Japanese Schoolgirl searching for a magic katana in the middle of France as an example.</p>by social penalty, i mean being unable to wear normal shoes and having to commission custom footwear. which could be dependant on the setting or enviroment. the social part would be gathering information and estabilishing connections to help you find someone willing to take the commission. which could have "finder's fees" of the DM's preference. same penalties i would inflict on anyone searching for custom equipment of the nonstandard variety for a given region. like the Japanese Schoolgirl...Luminiere Solas2011-12-29T09:20:01ZRe: Forums: Advanced Race Guide Playtest: Nekogami Return (Complete with Tiers)Icyshadowhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2nb4a?Nekogami-Return#172011-12-29T09:03:26Z2011-12-29T09:03:26Z<p>Do elaborate what you mean by Social Penalty. Holstaurs already have horns on their heads, a bovine tail AND hooves, so I think having hooved feet is only part of the problem if appearances are the matter. And like I said, magical horseshoes do not work by RAW unless you have four hooved feet and put one horseshoe in each foot, meaning my race or a Minotaur couldn't use them, but a Centaur could.</p>Do elaborate what you mean by Social Penalty. Holstaurs already have horns on their heads, a bovine tail AND hooves, so I think having hooved feet is only part of the problem if appearances are the matter. And like I said, magical horseshoes do not work by RAW unless you have four hooved feet and put one horseshoe in each foot, meaning my race or a Minotaur couldn't use them, but a Centaur could.Icyshadow2011-12-29T09:03:26ZRe: Forums: Advanced Race Guide Playtest: Nekogami Return (Complete with Tiers)Luminiere Solashttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2nb4a?Nekogami-Return#162011-12-29T08:56:09Z2011-12-29T08:56:09Z<p>i'd suggest merely the in game penalty of searching for magic horseshoes. which might require a commission. hooved feet are already a social penalty.</p>i'd suggest merely the in game penalty of searching for magic horseshoes. which might require a commission. hooved feet are already a social penalty.Luminiere Solas2011-12-29T08:56:09ZRe: Forums: Advanced Race Guide Playtest: Nekogami Return (Complete with Tiers)Icyshadowhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2nb4a?Nekogami-Return#152011-12-29T08:52:24Z2011-12-29T08:52:24Z<p>I am well-aware of that.</p>
<p>Anyway, sorry for the off-topic question, but what kind of penalties should Hooved Feet impose in your opinion? A friend suggested penalties to Stealth (not good to sneak around with hooved feet, which makes it funny how a Minotaur might try to sneak up on someone) and to certain types of Climb / Athletics checks, and I do NOT really agree with the Advanced Race Guide version of the Hooved Feet racial. Hell, they can't even use Magical Horseshoes because those require all four to be worn by the one using them!!</p>I am well-aware of that.
Anyway, sorry for the off-topic question, but what kind of penalties should Hooved Feet impose in your opinion? A friend suggested penalties to Stealth (not good to sneak around with hooved feet, which makes it funny how a Minotaur might try to sneak up on someone) and to certain types of Climb / Athletics checks, and I do NOT really agree with the Advanced Race Guide version of the Hooved Feet racial. Hell, they can't even use Magical Horseshoes because those...Icyshadow2011-12-29T08:52:24ZRe: Forums: Advanced Race Guide Playtest: Nekogami Return (Complete with Tiers)Luminiere Solashttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2nb4a?Nekogami-Return#142011-12-29T08:50:28Z2011-12-29T08:50:28Z<p>the real problem with the Goliath was the extremely synergistic racial bonuses, just like the anthropomorphic bat (which got +6 to wisdom and a fly speed for +0 ECL)</p>the real problem with the Goliath was the extremely synergistic racial bonuses, just like the anthropomorphic bat (which got +6 to wisdom and a fly speed for +0 ECL)Luminiere Solas2011-12-29T08:50:28ZRe: Forums: Advanced Race Guide Playtest: Nekogami Return (Complete with Tiers)Icyshadowhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2nb4a?Nekogami-Return#132011-12-29T08:38:57Z2011-12-29T08:38:57Z<p>I picked it more because it fits with the concept of a borderline large humanoid with links to both Humans and Minotaurs. Also, I find it sad that the stigma that affects Powerful Build is mostly due to it being linked to the munchkin-bait Goliath race (I think it had Powerful Build AND +4 Strength with only +1 Level Adjustment, and that's pretty insane)</p>I picked it more because it fits with the concept of a borderline large humanoid with links to both Humans and Minotaurs. Also, I find it sad that the stigma that affects Powerful Build is mostly due to it being linked to the munchkin-bait Goliath race (I think it had Powerful Build AND +4 Strength with only +1 Level Adjustment, and that's pretty insane)Icyshadow2011-12-29T08:38:57ZRe: Forums: Advanced Race Guide Playtest: Nekogami Return (Complete with Tiers)Luminiere Solashttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2nb4a?Nekogami-Return#122011-12-29T08:36:53Z2011-12-29T08:36:53Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Icyshadow wrote:</div><blockquote> It lets the character wield large weapons without penalties (Haste and other buffs are much better though), and gives a +1 Size Bonus to CMD as if the character was Large. I think they also count as Large for effects like Swallow Whole and Snatch so it's quite nice, but I don't think it's really overpowered considering you don't get Reach or any other insane thing with it. </blockquote><p>nothing that's too bad. i would say that it's on par with a well selected feat. in some cases, slightly better.Icyshadow wrote:It lets the character wield large weapons without penalties (Haste and other buffs are much better though), and gives a +1 Size Bonus to CMD as if the character was Large. I think they also count as Large for effects like Swallow Whole and Snatch so it's quite nice, but I don't think it's really overpowered considering you don't get Reach or any other insane thing with it.
nothing that's too bad. i would say that it's on par with a well selected feat. in some cases, slightly...Luminiere Solas2011-12-29T08:36:53ZRe: Forums: Advanced Race Guide Playtest: Nekogami Return (Complete with Tiers)Icyshadowhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2nb4a?Nekogami-Return#112011-12-29T08:31:33Z2011-12-29T08:31:33Z<p>It lets the character wield large weapons without penalties (Haste and other buffs are much better though), and gives a +1 Size Bonus to CMD as if the character was Large. I think they also count as Large for effects like Swallow Whole and Snatch so it's quite nice, but I don't think it's really overpowered considering you don't get Reach or any other insane thing with it.</p>It lets the character wield large weapons without penalties (Haste and other buffs are much better though), and gives a +1 Size Bonus to CMD as if the character was Large. I think they also count as Large for effects like Swallow Whole and Snatch so it's quite nice, but I don't think it's really overpowered considering you don't get Reach or any other insane thing with it.Icyshadow2011-12-29T08:31:33ZRe: Forums: Advanced Race Guide Playtest: Nekogami Return (Complete with Tiers)Luminiere Solashttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2nb4a?Nekogami-Return#102011-12-29T08:18:25Z2011-12-29T08:18:25Z<p>powerful build is essentially just monkey grip without the penalties if i remember correctly.</p>powerful build is essentially just monkey grip without the penalties if i remember correctly.Luminiere Solas2011-12-29T08:18:25ZRe: Forums: Advanced Race Guide Playtest: Nekogami Return (Complete with Tiers)Icyshadowhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2nb4a?Nekogami-Return#92011-12-29T08:13:29Z2011-12-29T08:07:21Z<p>...point taken, but it still kinda reminds me of that darned brat from that one anime/manga who I used to actually like. Now I just wanna see him die, but knowing the series and the amount of rampant fangirls, that will NEVER happen.</p>
<p>Oh, sorry. I started to ramble out of frustration. But yeah, I guess what you said about child prodigies (and "child" soldiers) makes sense in context. Though now I wonder when will I find time to write up that Holstaur thread (and calculate in advance how many cow jokes will I run into, if any come up) as well as double-checking if anyone is even going to give a damned aside from complaining about Powerful Build.</p>...point taken, but it still kinda reminds me of that darned brat from that one anime/manga who I used to actually like. Now I just wanna see him die, but knowing the series and the amount of rampant fangirls, that will NEVER happen.
Oh, sorry. I started to ramble out of frustration. But yeah, I guess what you said about child prodigies (and "child" soldiers) makes sense in context. Though now I wonder when will I find time to write up that Holstaur thread (and calculate in advance how many...Icyshadow2011-12-29T08:07:21ZRe: Forums: Advanced Race Guide Playtest: Nekogami Return (Complete with Tiers)Luminiere Solashttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2nb4a?Nekogami-Return#82011-12-29T07:54:47Z2011-12-29T07:54:47Z<p>the backstory of the minor goddess was based off a freeform character i played when i was a lot younger. twas a character i recycled who got more mary sueish as she progressed. she was also a parody of the fact that one can get to 20th level extremely fast. so in pathfinder, "child prodigies" would be more common than one realizes. just start your adventure early enough, and you can become a god earlier.</p>
<p>14-17 isn't that young in Golarion, especially since 12 is an old enough age (at the assumed era) for a youth to become a soldier in thier nation's military.</p>the backstory of the minor goddess was based off a freeform character i played when i was a lot younger. twas a character i recycled who got more mary sueish as she progressed. she was also a parody of the fact that one can get to 20th level extremely fast. so in pathfinder, "child prodigies" would be more common than one realizes. just start your adventure early enough, and you can become a god earlier.
14-17 isn't that young in Golarion, especially since 12 is an old enough age (at the...Luminiere Solas2011-12-29T07:54:47ZRe: Forums: Advanced Race Guide Playtest: Nekogami Return (Complete with Tiers)Icyshadowhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2nb4a?Nekogami-Return#72011-12-29T07:35:55Z2011-12-29T07:35:55Z<p>I think the only problem I have with the deity is that she just sounds a bit Mary Sue-like (and reminds me of Hitsugaya, the most overrated character in all of Bleach) what with being a child prodigy WHO PASSED THE TEST OF STARSTONE...</p>
<p>...then again, the racial stats seem fair aside from MAYBE the bonus feat (it makes many builds all the more amazing) and fast speed (it'll stack with speed bonus from Monk and if Ninja gave one, it'll stack with that too) but yeah. At least they don't have Powerful Build like my homebrew race does (then again, Powerful Build isn't really as horribly overpowered as some people claim) but that's a story for another time.</p>I think the only problem I have with the deity is that she just sounds a bit Mary Sue-like (and reminds me of Hitsugaya, the most overrated character in all of Bleach) what with being a child prodigy WHO PASSED THE TEST OF STARSTONE...
...then again, the racial stats seem fair aside from MAYBE the bonus feat (it makes many builds all the more amazing) and fast speed (it'll stack with speed bonus from Monk and if Ninja gave one, it'll stack with that too) but yeah. At least they don't have...Icyshadow2011-12-29T07:35:55ZRe: Forums: Advanced Race Guide Playtest: Nekogami Return (Complete with Tiers)Luminiere Solashttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2nb4a?Nekogami-Return#62011-12-29T07:29:35Z2011-12-29T07:29:35Z<p>here is the Revised Rebalanced PF Nekogami</p>
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<p>[Spoiler omitted]</p>here is the Revised Rebalanced PF Nekogami
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[Spoiler omitted]Luminiere Solas2011-12-29T07:29:35ZRe: Forums: Advanced Race Guide Playtest: Nekogami Return (Complete with Tiers)Luminiere Solashttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2nb4a?Nekogami-Return#52011-12-24T03:20:56Z2011-12-24T03:20:56Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">SwnyNerdgasm wrote:</div><blockquote> Dotting for after work, these were the Cat People from the ARG playtest right? </blockquote><p>they were the homebrewed descendants of a minor goddess and had feline personality traits. they were also Tian flavored. go ahead and test as you feel. but you can call them cat people if you wish.SwnyNerdgasm wrote:Dotting for after work, these were the Cat People from the ARG playtest right?
they were the homebrewed descendants of a minor goddess and had feline personality traits. they were also Tian flavored. go ahead and test as you feel. but you can call them cat people if you wish.Luminiere Solas2011-12-24T03:20:56ZRe: Forums: Advanced Race Guide Playtest: Nekogami Return (Complete with Tiers)Icyshadowhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2nb4a?Nekogami-Return#42011-12-20T07:50:08Z2011-12-20T07:50:08Z<p>Interesting. I wonder if I should make a Holstaur thread in response.</p>Interesting. I wonder if I should make a Holstaur thread in response.Icyshadow2011-12-20T07:50:08ZRe: Forums: Advanced Race Guide Playtest: Nekogami Return (Complete with Tiers)SwnyNerdgasmhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2nb4a?Nekogami-Return#32011-12-20T07:45:58Z2011-12-20T07:45:58Z<p>Dotting for after work, these were the Cat People from the ARG playtest right?</p>Dotting for after work, these were the Cat People from the ARG playtest right?SwnyNerdgasm2011-12-20T07:45:58ZRe: Forums: Advanced Race Guide Playtest: Nekogami Return (Complete with Tiers)Luminiere Solashttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2nb4a?Nekogami-Return#22011-12-19T21:39:42Z2011-12-19T21:39:42Z<p>a few notes as the designer. i wouldn't reccomend a lesser and intermediate nekogami in the same group. if it must happen. i reccomend charging the intermediate a price of one of thier starting traits to make things a little more even.</p>
<p>i would also reccomend giving the Greater Nekogami a level adjustment of +1. and i would reccomend being careful of Nekogami Monks and Nekogami Battle Clerics using the Greater Nekogami. they may end up outshining other monks and battle clerics.</p>
<p>for the intermediate Nekogami, i would be Wary of Minmaxing Barbarians using this race. though not as disruptive with fighters, an intermediate Nekogami has crazy unexpected barbarian synergies compared to thier lesser counterparts.</p>
<p>P.S. Yes, i did design these races for mostly martial roles. we have quite a lot of races intended to be Casters. so i included some martial races for a change. you should most likely include extra social encounters if playing a Nekogami outside of Tian Xia.</p>a few notes as the designer. i wouldn't reccomend a lesser and intermediate nekogami in the same group. if it must happen. i reccomend charging the intermediate a price of one of thier starting traits to make things a little more even.
i would also reccomend giving the Greater Nekogami a level adjustment of +1. and i would reccomend being careful of Nekogami Monks and Nekogami Battle Clerics using the Greater Nekogami. they may end up outshining other monks and battle clerics.
for the...Luminiere Solas2011-12-19T21:39:42ZForums: Advanced Race Guide Playtest: Nekogami Return (Complete with Tiers)Luminiere Solashttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2nb4a?Nekogami-Return#12011-12-19T21:20:17Z2011-12-19T21:20:17Z<p>i present the Nekogami. complete with lesser, intermediate, and greater tiers.</p>
<p>the lesser Nekogami, for those who thought that they were too good. not as crazy powerful.</p>
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<p>the standard Nekogami, for those who don't mind this race, it's a little more minmaxy with the points, and if used alongside a lesser nekogami, should be trait taxed.</p>
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<p>and now, the greater Nekogami for those who feel that these people should be in the level adjustment range</p>
<p>[Spoiler omitted]</p>i present the Nekogami. complete with lesser, intermediate, and greater tiers.
the lesser Nekogami, for those who thought that they were too good. not as crazy powerful.
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the standard Nekogami, for those who don't mind this race, it's a little more minmaxy with the points, and if used alongside a lesser nekogami, should be trait taxed.
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and now, the greater Nekogami for those who feel that these people should be in the level adjustment range
[Spoiler...Luminiere Solas2011-12-19T21:20:17Z