Some Random Dood |
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I've been wondering, when someone takes the wings discovery would the wings always be there and you just need to use a move action to fly? Or would you need to use a standard action to make the wings appear then a move to fly?
The sorcerer's celestial bloodline power "Wings of Heaven (su)" says:
At 9th level, you can sprout feathery wings and fly for a number of minutes per day equal to your sorcerer level.
The alchemist's "Wings (ex)" discovery says:
The alchemist gains bat-like, bird-like, or insect-like functional wings, allowing him to fly as the fly spell.
The sorcerer's wings sound optional (you can sprout) while the alchemists don't sound optional to me (you gain).
Sean K Reynolds Contributor |
KrispyXIV |
I've been wondering, when someone takes the wings discovery would the wings always be there and you just need to use a move action to fly? Or would you need to use a standard action to make the wings appear then a move to fly?
The sorcerer's celestial bloodline power "Wings of Heaven (su)" says:
At 9th level, you can sprout feathery wings and fly for a number of minutes per day equal to your sorcerer level.The alchemist's "Wings (ex)" discovery says:
The alchemist gains bat-like, bird-like, or insect-like functional wings, allowing him to fly as the fly spell.The sorcerer's wings sound optional (you can sprout) while the alchemists don't sound optional to me (you gain).
The Alchemist discovery makes it sound like you simply have wings, all the time. They're there, same as your arms and legs. You're simply restricted to using them for a limited amount of time.
I would not charge an action premium for using them either, since they are always 'ready' and there. Not the same as the Oracle flight abilities which require a swift action, or the Witch Flight ability that requires a standard.
EDIT: Ouch! Ninjaed by SKR!
Some Random Dood |
The Alchemist discovery makes it sound like you simply have wings, all the time. They're there, same as your arms and legs. You're simply restricted to using them for a limited amount of time.
I would not charge an action premium for using them either, since they are always 'ready' and there. Not the same as the Oracle flight abilities which require a swift action, or the Witch Flight ability that requires a standard.
EDIT: Ouch! Ninjaed by SKR!
The wings are always there. "Activating" them isn't an action.
Yes, the winged alchemist is a mutant freak. :)
Thanks, that is what I thought, but just wanted to make sure.
XD Yes, I'm building mine to be a monster, quite literally. During a game this week had another of the players ask me "Are you a monster?" as I make a full round attack with 2 claws and a bite, to which I replied "Yes."
Timothy Ferdinand |
The wings are always there. "Activating" them isn't an action.
Yes, the winged alchemist is a mutant freak. :)
I think you're right Sean, but its worth noting that the picture of the drow alchemist with the wings discovery on page 38 of the Monster Codex does not have wings visible which either means (1) they do appear and disappear - which doesn't seem right to me in the context of an alchemist - or (2) the artist forgot to include the wings!!