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Silver Crusade 1/5

I have just been hired for a new job and will not be able to run the senarios Saturday as I was planning.

Liberty's Edge 2/5

Congrats on the new job, Granyt!

Silver Crusade 4/5

Nansen wrote:
Am I right in remembering that I'll need a character which hasn't been played in any non-Intro scenarios?

As long as the character is 1st lvl you are legal to play.

And CONGRATULATIONS to Zylph on getting his first star!!!

Sovereign Court

Jake Dodd wrote:
Nansen wrote:
Am I right in remembering that I'll need a character which hasn't been played in any non-Intro scenarios?

As long as the character is 1st lvl you are legal to play.

And CONGRATULATIONS to Zylph on getting his first star!!!

OMG!! I GOT A STAR!!!!

About freaking time. ;)

StrangePackage wrote:
Finally, DCII confirmed that Zylph knows what he's talking about.

You say that like there was doubt I knew what I was talking about. Next thing you'll be doubting my stories about going bar hopping in Chapel Hill with that group of extraterrestrial rabbits back in the day ...


Jake Dodd wrote:
Nansen wrote:
Am I right in remembering that I'll need a character which hasn't been played in any non-Intro scenarios?
As long as the character is 1st lvl you are legal to play.

Thanks, Jake, that's good to know.

Jake Dodd wrote:
And CONGRATULATIONS to Zylph on getting his first star!!!

You've picked one up too since I was last around here regularly. Congrats to both of you guys.

Silver Crusade 4/5

I consider myself as a GM before player at APL (One of the burdens of being awesome).

Only time I play is when I don't have enough to fill my own table anyways and I don't see that happening much lately. You can count on me to be able to run whenever I'm there, the lodge is growing exponentially and we need to adjust to the influx.

We had more players and GMs this Saturday then most Cons I've attended! :D

I agree we need some way to organize (us GMs I have no doubt can do it easily. We did GeekOut...)
I have an idea for player sign-up, we need to post a sheet listing all events being run that evening on a sheet with space for the correct # of players to sign-up, and place it at the top of the stars. That way players will know immediately what games will be run, lvls, and how many players are needed.
Then GMs can just walk over to the sheet and know if they have players or if we need to adjust the # of tables.

Nansen: Thanks :)

Liberty's Edge

StrangePackage wrote:
Just as a thought- I know several folks, like Arvandor, Leej and Goon, come from far over the mountains. Have you guys considered carpooling?

Isn't really an option for me, since I have to run right from our games to work. Maybe after the summer, depending on how my work schedule changes

Liberty's Edge 2/5

Jake-How can we make sure that folks like Goon and Leej and Arvandor who are not going to be able to come in on a weekday to sign up as players or GMs in advance will be able to get spaces?

Or is that just a game-day type deal?

Silver Crusade 4/5

StrangePackage wrote:

Jake-How can we make sure that folks like Goon and Leej and Arvandor who are not going to be able to come in on a weekday to sign up as players or GMs in advance will be able to get spaces?

Or is that just a game-day type deal?

Just game day, warhorn and the like are handy but there are a ton of ppl that don't even bother to sign up. And to do it every other week I doubt we could get a forth of the ppl to sign up.

Sovereign Court

Thanks Nansen!

Now to work on star #2. ;)

Sovereign Court

Granyt wrote:
I have just been hired for a new job and will not be able to run the senarios Saturday as I was planning.

Congrats man!

Silver Crusade 5/5

I think folks should still be able to signup here on the boards and the GM running that game should be able to keep track of those names and add them to the list as it is posted... Just a thought... Of course as a group we should remain flexible and accommodate noobs when ever they show. Yes I know noobs is a derogatory term but if the shoe fits....

Also, those who dare to tread in the lands of Tirlan... bring tissues cause there is gonna be some cry'n MUHAHAHAHA. (see ya Sunday ;))

Silver Crusade 4/5

Luthril wrote:
I think folks should still be able to sign up here on the boards and the GM running that game should be able to keep track of those names and add them to the list as it is posted... Just a thought... Of course as a group we should remain flexible and accommodate noobs when ever they show. Yes I know noobs is a derogatory term but if the shoe fits...

My thoughts exactly, just PM the GM of the game u want to play and your slot will be reserved.

I love all the noobs, they have not been corrupted, and you get to shape them into a good little player...

Lantern Lodge

"Newbies" is actually a little more friendly. ^_^

I know I have a hard time keeping up with the forums on sign ups, I think that's the biggest difficulty on jumping in saying what game me and Sonne are going to be at.
This thread moves really fast and by the time I read the 9 listings on my google home page, there's already post past those. Sometimes even pages. I would love to see something a bit more organized for these sign ups.

But that's just my 2 cents. ^o^;


Luthril wrote:
I think folks should still be able to signup here on the boards and the GM running that game should be able to keep track of those names and add them to the list as it is posted... Just a thought... Of course as a group we should remain flexible and accommodate noobs when ever they show. Yes I know noobs is a derogatory term but if the shoe fits....

I think that system was workable when there were only two or three tables, but I saw something about there being six tables last week. That's a LOT of people potentially posting in this thread to sign up for games. In all that volume of posts it would be really easy to miss a sign up request.

I'd suggest using Warhorn or a similar site and slotting all the tables for 5 players. We would still actually seat up to 6 players per table on game day, but we'd have built in some room to accommodate new folks, walk-ins, etc. Though I don't think it would eliminate the need to have extra GMs on call in case turnout drastically exceeds expectations.

I know this group has been loose and informal since the beginning. It'll be a culture shock to get more structured, but if the growth continues at even a fraction of the pace I'm hearing it has lately, it's going to be necessary.

Silver Crusade 4/5

AlyGlows wrote:

"Newbies" is actually a little more friendly. ^_^

I know I have a hard time keeping up with the forums on sign ups, I think that's the biggest difficulty on jumping in saying what game me and Sonne are going to be at.
This thread moves really fast and by the time I read the 9 listings on my google home page, there's already post past those. Sometimes even pages. I would love to see something a bit more organized for these sign ups.

But that's just my 2 cents. ^o^;

Total understandable. We currently have our best people working on a solution (one of theGMs has already bought a ton of domain names, We'll let you know more about it as it gets closer to implementation).

I may actually make the meeting on the 7th but either way I will stick around on the boards to help organize. The biggest thing we need to is have at least 4 tables ready to run and a GM (or two) ready to jump in.

I will be working on solutions along with the other GMs and we should have some stuff by Sunday. Last weekend was a huge kick in the @$$ for most of us, we have never had that large of a turnout (not even at GeekOut).

Silver Crusade 4/5

A message to all the current and potential GMs;

Some GMs have the maps and other GM aides for many scenarios. I hate it when a GM tells me after game time that he could have used something when I had exactly what he needed but didn't know at the time.

I have a growing collection of Flip-mats, all the core books and an ever increasing number of others, minis, printed scenarios, and a desire to see all of the games be the best they can be. (And an aching wallet ;)

I heard many of the players saying how cool it was to have the flip maps and minis (my pride got buffed knowing how many of those things were loaned to the GMs that stepped up to play at the last moment)

You guys that stepped up are awesome and that speaks to the amazingness of our lodge and the people in it.


I wish you guys would post faster. I hate how slowly this thread moves.


About car pooling for those of us living in the wastes west of Asheville: I humbly offer the services of my battle-worn Chevy S-10. There is no air conditioning and it has a faint but charming aroma of motor oil. It has plenty of room for a driver and one passenger making it the ideal car pool vehicle as long as the person in the bed of the truck has a quality raincoat and excellent balance.

Seriously, if you want to save a dime on gas we can work something out. Let me know if you're interested.

Liberty's Edge

Aravandor, I would be more than willing to carpool if you'd want to meet somewhere right on the highway. I usually have enough time before work to make a quick stop at, say, a gas station or some such off one of the exits. I wouldn't mind driving my cozy, air-conditioned, fuel efficient little put-put car for us if that works for ya.

As for the GMing and the sign-ups, the biggest thing I've found for myself is that signing up for a specific table is hard for me, since I usually just want to help fill out the tables that are there. I'd rather just sign something saying "I'll be there as a player" or some such

Grand Lodge 5/5 * Venture-Captain, New Zealand—Dunedin

My neck hurts. I have message board whiplash.

Ok, here's my humble suggestion...

I think Warhorn is the answer for our big events like Lodge Weekends or GeekOut or FreeRPG Day. It makes sense for GMs to pick the "featured" games (2-3) that will be played that weekend. Those can be posted with the ability for 4-5 players to pre-register. I like Nansen's idea to allow for extra seats to be added at the GM's discretion on GameDay. We can then make sure to let people know how to get to WarHorn here on the board.

2(or 3) GMs per week will draw "featured" status and run games that we post as available on WarHorn (3GMs if one of those featured games is run in an early slot). Those games and GMs will be determined at the latest on the Thursday before GameDay and announced here and on WarHorn. 2 GMs per week will draw "reserve" status. One of those GMs will be responsible for having a levels 1-3 scenario cocked and loaded, and the other will be responsible for a First Steps scenario. Those won't be listed - they're for walk-ups. We can figure out how to determine the GM status later (gladiatorial thumb wrestling?).

Sharing minis, flip-mats, and reference books is a great idea, but we should find some way to "sign out" stuff so that people get their stuff back. Additionally, recording all GM and player credits after the session is another important feature of the lodge's activities. I think one person (the person who creates the event on the PF website) should be in charge of both of those things. Someone anal retentive. Stop looking at me....in all fairness, I recognize my own amazing talents in the anal-retentive arena and would volunteer to do this whenever I'm around, but I'm not always around, so we'll need some others to volunteer for this duty.

Anal-retentive, duty......*stifled 3rd grade giggle*

We don't have a Venture-Lieutenant. What we do have here at APL are a number of Venture-Staff Sergeants. I share StrangePackages vision for a Pathfinder Lodge that others model themselves upon. Y'all have seen what potential there is out there; we can harness this and build out of these Mana Wastes.

I can't do a post without some Golarion World reference. It's impossible for me.

-Dink


Zylph, forgive me if I offer services by proxy that are not practical, but perhaps we could set something up along these lines:

We have a website page where tables are listed like this

Table 1
Scenario: First Steps 2 To Delve the Dungeon Deep
GM: Zylphrix
Players: John Doe, Jane Doe, etc...

Table 2
.......

The signup sheet could be a simple html form easier to navigate than warhorn and it would be limited to APL events.

Sovereign Court

The session table display is a good idea, but might I suggest that discussions of the growth of the APL, the site that will be put together and related items not directly related to the upcoming sessions be moved off thread, otherwise we really will be filling up multiple pages between posts related to the upcoming sessions.

Scarab Sages 1/5

Quick and dirty digital solution: Shared googleDocs Spreadsheet? I'll send an example around to those of whom I already have an email address. For. Heretowith.

Scarab Sages 4/5

StrangePackage wrote:

I just had a very productive talk with our illustrious Venture Captain, DCII, and he gave me a lot of really good advice for how we can try and continue to grow our Pathfinder Lodge while still offering a great experience for the established and new gamers alike. We're going to have to get a little more coordinated and organized, but the potential benefits are going to be totally worth it.

You may take a look at Meetup. It may solve a bunch of your problems, but it is not free. The simple act of taking up a collection of $5 per person per 6 months would cover the cost. Also, the two retailers you have in the area would also benefit from having a more organized organization and they should also be asked to contribute and SCARAB would contribute as well.

Meetup may also help with some of the clumsiness of the thread as this linear format can be difficult to follow.

I am still hopeful of a VL in this area. My first two choices turned me down due to extremely busy schedules/prior commitments but I value their input greatly and will be looking for them to advise me and make a recommendation as to who might be the next candidate. But I need to see some serious organization (although I personally feel that the organization problem stemmed directly from not having a RPG friendly retail space to play). It is a big commitment and requires a lot of organizational and people skills, not to mention a significant knowledge of the Pathfinder rules and the Pathfinder Society rules.

I think you have a great opportunity with Wyvern's Tale online now (I think that solves the biggest problem the area had) and offering such a great locale to play and you've got a nice summer bounce in players, that will hopefully carry over into the fall, of enthusiastic new players. I am going to try to get the SCARAB crew up there before GenCon and see if we can't put on a big games day at WT.

I have an open door/phone/e-mail policy and you should feel free to contact me anytime with any questions and I, and SCARAB, will be there to help with anything we can.

If you've got 5 tables every Saturday consistently lets get them booked out a month in advance and start letting me get you some scenario support.

Scarab Sages 1/5

Here is the link. This is not actually the schedule for 7-7-12, but we can edit it until it is, if you guys think it'll work. We could then print it before game day and put it on the wall. Walk-ins and people scared of technology could then fill in any empty spots.

Liberty's Edge

In the interest of setting an example, Thorynn, I have signed up at the link you posted *salute*

Scarab Sages 4/5

This looks good I would make slots J-K-L Alternate 1 - 2 - 3. If you got all six player slots and all three alt slots you could, in theory, make another table of four+GM if you had a one of these players with a scenario prepped to GM.

Scarab Sages

I signed up for it and added my email onto the emailing list.

Scarab Sages 1/5

Cool. I added those slots, and I think this will work for a band-aid solution until we have something more permanent.

Dark Archive 2/5

can i gm something else as well i have played, not to mentioned GMed most of those so if we need a new game let me know i am more than willing.

Scarab Sages 1/5

Yeah! If you do want to GM, and you've got a scenario, just add yourself to the spreadsheet! Thats the idea. The games listed are just placeholders to show you guys how it would work. If we get these setup four weeks in advance (and you guys think its a decent solution), we can plan ahead and get new scenarios from Del!


Hmmm.... if we're gonna have a sign-up page that anyone can edit, what about using a wiki instead?

Scarab Sages 1/5

What would be the advantage? I've used wikis in the past, and I think they're great, but in my experience people have to sign up and editing tables is a lot more clumsy on the free services I've seen. If its easier, I'm all for it.

Silver Crusade 5/5

Thorynn,

First of all, you rock man. Second... we need to add start times to this spreadsheet and it's great and frankly would work just fine on our eventual website...

BTW I'll either play or GM based on need on the 7th and will add an alternate GM slot and a TBA scenario to the spreadsheet.

We should repost this link frequently.... repost'd

Signup for 7-7-12

Peace,
Luth

Also... Any objection to me posting the spreadsheet link on WT's FB boards?... too much exposure? is there such a thing?

Silver Crusade 4/5

Problem w/ the sheet both Zylph and dink will be at PaizoCon that weekend.

Silver Crusade 5/5

Jake Dodd wrote:
Problem w/ the sheet both Zylph and dink will be at PaizoCon that weekend.

Delete'd... if you don't get the "'d" then Watch the Guild


Editing, on Wikia anyway, can be done in Visual mode now, so editing your name into an existing table is no more difficult than typing your name on any other website.

Far as the advantages vs Google Docs, I haven't used Google Docs. Last time I tried a few years ago, it didn't play nice with Opera.

Far as advantages generally, a wiki would decentralize responsibility for administering signs-ups without decentralizing their location.

It would also be a nice middle ground between something like Warhorn, and posting to the messageboard. Wikia has comments that appear right on the pages, rather than Talk Pages that are a click away. If we allowed anons to post comments but not to edit pages, then someone who didn't want to create an account could still sign up for a game by posting a comment like "This is Joe Smith, I wanna play in Luth's 5pm Meatgrinder of Death scenario."

Other advantages is that each event could have its own page. So we could have sign-ups open for multiple events at the same time. This could help work towards planning things far enough in advance to get scenario support from Paizo.

Each event having its own page would have another advantage. GMs could look at past event pages to see what scenarios have been run recently, and use that to help decide what to run in the future.

There's also the fact that if someone comes in and trashes the page, accidentally or maliciously, it's very easy to undo the damage.

Aside from the uses in sign-ups, I also think a wiki might be a viable option for a website for APL. There's a serviceable messageboard functionality built-in, a blog feature, and most of all, it lets the work of creating and maintaining pages be easily divided among multiple people.

Scarab Sages 1/5

That all sounds awesome! Which service would you suggest? Wikispaces? We've got enough time to work out the kinks before 7-7. Like I said, I love wikis, I just hope everyone else will find it easy enough to use to make it viable. I've had a few false-starts with wikis in the past. The only reason I suggested google docs is its really easy to use in its current iteration.

Silver Crusade 4/5

I hate to do all of this stuff then drop something new on the players in a few days I suggest we work on a wiki or whatever then when we meet as GMs to discuss this stuff (we will be meeting sometime after PaizoCon so dink and Zylph can be there) we can decided how and when to best implement it. I suggest we stick with Google docs until then to eliminate any confusion.

I am a fan of the wiki layout to but I also think it needs to be completely ready for player activity before implementation. We need to make headway as a cohesive group or we will become fragmented over all the ideas being presented.


Yeah, the Google Doc is in place already. A wiki could be set up pretty quickly, but I don't think we wanna press the GO button on one before more folks have had a chance to weigh in on the idea.

Plus, to answer Thorynn's question, I've seen mention several times of APL getting our own website. Media Wiki, which Wikipedia and a lot of others wikis run on, is available under a freeware open source license. So I was thinking if we went with a wiki we should install Media Wiki on a domain we control.

That method isn't as instant as creating one on a wiki service, but we wouldn't have to put up with advertisements either. However, we might have to find and install extensions to have some of the features I mentioned previously.

Though if we did go with a wiki service, Wikia is the only one I've used. So I don't know the advantages, disadvatages, and available features of any others.

Sovereign Court

OK, since this discussion is still going on on this thread, this is where we're at as far as a free standing site.

I have secured domains (most will be redirected to the main URL, which is one thing which should be discussed off thread).

I'm working on some design concepts. If others want to do likewise, please do; the more options the better.

I'm not thrilled with the concept of wikis. I am not going to dive into the subject here, because this is not the place for it (as I said earlier, these discussions should be off this thread to keep from flooding it with posts not directly related to the upcoming sessions).

And, most importantly, there needs to be a group meeting amongst the GMs to figure out what backend functionality we want/need to help improve the entire process, from folks signing up for games, to being able to set games up a month or more in advance, the sharing of assets (minis, maps, etc), and probably numerous other things that have not been mentioned thus far.

And with that, I will not post on this subject here again so as to try to keep this thread on the topic of the upcoming gaming sessions. With the number of new folks we have coming on board, we really need to keep this thread as focused as we can on that subject and move this other stuff offline.

EDIT: though we should make clear the following:

There is a sign up sheet for the sessions of 7/7/12 ... SIGN UP HERE

And yeah, for the short term the Google docs option is easy enough.

Silver Crusade 5/5

zylphryx wrote:

EDIT: though we should make clear the following:

There is a sign up sheet for the sessions of 7/7/12 ... SIGN UP HERE

And yeah, for the short term the Google docs option is easy enough.

OK so, This means all of us GMs need to edit said shread sheet. My game is now entered... go take a look and sign up if you want to DIE... :)

Also: It would REALLY help me out if I could get character info before the 7th for those who want to play my scenario so I can enter your basics into Herolab...


APL Organization and Administration thread

Scarab Sages 1/5

Very cool. Jake and Strange, if you don't want to run the intro sessions you may want to edit the sheet before 7-7, tho it looks like intro III would be worth running.

I will be running 3-09 Quest for Perfection Part I, which I've played thru as a player. Sign up if you want to travel to the far-eastern land of Tian-Xia!

Also if anybody has that Monastery flip-mat I would love to borrow it. Otherwise, we'll see if TWT has it in stock.

I like collecting maps more than I do minis, so I plan on being one of the lodges main map guys.

Scarab Sages 1/5

THIS JUST IN: Get read to get excited, guys...A.C.E. will be taking place on Saturday October 13th at THE ASHEVILLE CIVIC CENTER EXHIBIT HALL!

GAMING AT THE CIVIC CENTER! Setting up the warhorn........ now.

Liberty's Edge 2/5

If there's only interest for one Intro module, then I'll be glad to run something else.

Maybe we could start to feature the Quest for Perfection series this month? Run One, Two, and Three at varying times over consecutive sessions, then put a vote out for the next one offered at the end (in case folks missed a session and want the boons).

I'll have to check my cart and see what looks good to run. Maybe I can handle the higher tier game?

Let me look to see what can be done. I may want to run the noon game as opposed to the 5 spot.

Liberty's Edge

What be this Quest For Perfection series? It sounds... interesting

Scarab Sages 1/5

Its the one in Tian Xia, trying to figure out how to use the Braid of 1000 masters. I've played in all three. It's a pretty cool series. The write up is here.

Sovereign Court

It's also the series that I began running last week. :)

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