My Dream Computer Game (think Temple of Elemental Evil with Stronghold with total war)

[DeathBecomesus]

Not sure where to post this, so feel free to move if need be:

Off and on there has been talk of Pathfinder Computer game, that got me thinking:

1st: I really really like the Temple of elemental evil computer game.
Love the feel of the turn based combat. It is actually difficult (and often not very enjoyable) for me to play real time combat in games.

2nd: I really like the stronghold series, but have been disappointed with the Stronghold 3 release. I think this game (Stronghold series) in general has so much potential. But just not yet reached.

3rd: I have only played small parts of the Total War series, but love the feel of the massive war, along with world building.

I thought could we combine ALL of these (or parts of all) and make a MASSIVELY huge RPG game.

My thoughts
These are unorganized and somewhat random:
I hope to get further ideas and thoughts from others and "Flesh" out this idea

I would like to have lots of standard Duengon Crawl WITH the Temple of Elem Evil Turn based system. Think how GREAT this could be updated to 2011 (2012) computer abilities. ALL the classes, prestige, and abilities of Pathfinder put into this combat system

Some time in the game spend building your castle (Stronghold). You have to prepare for a massive attack, and you supervise (rule) over your castle prepare. Here you have the option, go OUT and find evil creatures, and prevent them from gaining strength and organizing. But if you do this, your castle building is limited and much slower. OR stay at home and build your defense, but this allows your enemies to gather forces, organize, and plan.
Your "stronghold" could have bonuses based on your class:
Fighters would easily get lots of trained low level fighters and standard army stuff.
Wizards, could get lots of magical enhancenments to defense along with low level magic users. Also perhaps use of "ritual" spells, where groups of magic users united to cast spells
Clerics: get lots of healing abilities and various magical defense
Rogues: LOTS of traps, intelligence, and ???
Other classes........ seeking your help

Also...... from time to time you have to fight MASSIVE battles (think Total War). I always thought the battlesystem had great potential but was never really developed. In this "game" you have occasionally large scale battles, but also enhanced by all the magic abilies (perhaps even flying creatures)

I would like to see the total fantastic graphics and "worlds" of recent games (Like Skyrium) and also would hope to see the complex moral choices of Dragon Age. Many choices should be "gray" with benefits and costs for each choice. Good and Evil should be more complex and at times not so easily identified.

I would hope to have many many choices and all the choices you make have benefits and cost.

One example: Level up time: You can choice to level up on the go (like in most games). Here you get the standard level up choices.
But if you hold off and take "training" at your castle (when you get back there) you level up but also with a few extra bonuses.

You choice to go out and fight creatures, you prevent them from organizing, and also gain treasures, materials that will aid/enhance in your castle strength. But while you are away, your castle development is slowed.

So many many possibilities.

Perhaps just share your thoughts

I WOuld LOVE to see a MASSIVE computer game
Combining Temple of elemental Evil with Stronghold with total war
With Dragon age, with .... and so ou.

Perhaps I am just dreaming, but i am not the only one

[DeathBecomesus]

DeathBecomesus wrote:

Not sure where to post this, so feel free to move if need be:

Off and on there has been talk of Pathfinder Computer game, that got me thinking:

1st: I really really like the Temple of elemental evil computer game.
Love the feel of the turn based combat. It is actually difficult (and often not very enjoyable) for me to play real time combat in games.

2nd: I really like the stronghold series, but have been disappointed with the Stronghold 3 release. I think this game (Stronghold series) in general has so much potential. But just not yet reached.

3rd: I have only played small parts of the Total War series, but love the feel of the massive war, along with world building.

I thought could we combine ALL of these (or parts of all) and make a MASSIVELY huge RPG game.

My thoughts
These are unorganized and somewhat random:
I hope to get further ideas and thoughts from others and "Flesh" out this idea

I would like to have lots of standard Duengon Crawl WITH the Temple of Elem Evil Turn based system. Think how GREAT this could be updated to 2011 (2012) computer abilities. ALL the classes, prestige, and abilities of Pathfinder put into this combat system

Some time in the game spend building your castle (Stronghold). You have to prepare for a massive attack, and you supervise (rule) over your castle prepare. Here you have the option, go OUT and find evil creatures, and prevent them from gaining strength and organizing. But if you do this, your castle building is limited and much slower. OR stay at home and build your defense, but this allows your enemies to gather forces, organize, and plan.
Your "stronghold" could have bonuses based on your class:
Fighters would easily get lots of trained low level fighters and standard army stuff.
Wizards, could get lots of magical enhancenments to defense along with low level magic users. Also perhaps use of "ritual" spells, where groups of magic users united to cast spells
Clerics: get lots of healing abilities and various magical defense
Rogues: LOTS...

Hello ? Someone

Darn my post never got much response

[Starbuck_II]

DeathBecomesus wrote:

Not sure where to post this, so feel free to move if need be:

Off and on there has been talk of Pathfinder Computer game, that got me thinking:

1st: I really really like the Temple of elemental evil computer game.
Love the feel of the turn based combat. It is actually difficult (and often not very enjoyable) for me to play real time combat in games.

Agree, it was a good method for a game.

Too bad, they never updated the system and made sequels.

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2nd: I really like the stronghold series, but have been disappointed with the Stronghold 3 release. I think this game (Stronghold series) in general has so much potential. But just not yet reached.

3rd: I have only played small parts of the Total War series, but love the feel of the massive war, along with world building.

I thought could we combine ALL of these (or parts of all) and make a MASSIVELY huge RPG game.

I haven't played the other two so I can't comment.

Trouble is it would be a lot to ask to combine them.

[Marus]

While I think it would be interesting to have the option and opportunity to have followers, cohorts, and companions in a D&D-style game; if you spend too much time managing a stronghold and arranging men-at-arms I feel that would take too much time away from adventuring with the core group of "PCs".

I do think that what you propose could be a good and fun game, only not one called "Pathfinder." HOWEVER: If we take your proposal and call it "Kingmaker," - make it an expansion for the core game where one takes their higher level characters - and use them to do what you propose, then I think we may have something.

As an aside: For those of you who played "Temple of Elemental Evil", but thought it far too short, look up the Circle of Eight (Co8) mod pak. It triple the playing time and raises the level cap. Also adds many items, spells, and feats.