I have a character build for you guys to critique:
Strength 18
Dexterity 13
Constitution 14
Intelligence 13
Wisdom 12
Charisma 16
Hit Points 69
Fortitude Save +8
Reflex Save +3
Will Save +7
Initiative +1
Base speed 30 ft, current speed 20 ft
CMB +12
CMD +23
AC 23
Touch AC 11
Flat-Footed 22
Base Attack Bonus +8
Basic Melee Attack +12
Basic Ranged Attack +9
Favored class Paladin, favored class option extra skill points
Paladin Abilities
Aura of Resolve
Channel Positive Energy
Aura of Courage
Divine Health
2 Mercies (Selects which ones each day)
Divine Grace
Charitable Hands
Aura of Good
Detect Evil
Smite Evil 3/day
Paladin Spells Per Day
Level 1 2
Level 2 2
Skill Ranks
Sense Motive 8
Diplomacy 8
Perception 8
Spellcraft 8
Heal 8
Feats
Improved Critical (Scythe)
Power Attack
Bloody Assault
Shield of Swings
Unsanctioned Knowledge
Equipment
+1 Corrosive Burst Scythe
+13/+8 atk
19/20 X4 crit
2d4 + 5 Piercing or Slashing + 1d6 Acid (3d10 Acid on critical)
Masterwork Heavy Mace
+13/+8 atk
20 X2 crit
1d8 + 4 Bludgeoning Damage
Masterwork Dagger
+13/+8 atk (+10/+5 thrown)
19/20 X2 crit
10 ft range
1d4 + 4 Piercing or Slashing Damage
+3 Full Plate
Belt of Mighty Constitution +2 (Deep purple sash)
I haven't picked my Unsanctioned Knowledge spells yet. Suggestions?
Traits are not being used for this character.
"Except she seduces women specifically for sex..."
...oh, boy. I admit, my first response here is: Are you a guy posting this? I don't care what your profile says--people lie on those on the internet. Because sure, it's the internet. :)
Yet unless it is done well? Then that's just discomfort at the gaming table, and every Mary Sue waiting to happen. That's being That Sleezy Gamer Guy.
So if you're going to do it, treat it respectfully.
Otherwise, I don't see an issue with a paladin being slightly off-kilter.
However, don't be the Sleezy Guy who describes his PC in a g-string at the table while trying to have sex with any and every female NPC. It's not to say a guy can't play a female character--I'm saying, to beat a dead horse, do it respectfully. It makes a number of women, and men, uncomfortable.
On the other, I could see a woman playing this concept for attention at the table as well. Perhaps you are, and you aren't doing that. Perhaps you're intending to treat it respectfully when out-of-character, and you aren't doing this for attention.
In that case, good for you. :)
I'm female, for the record.
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She has 69 hit hit points. :-)
Dirty mind is dirty ^_^
It's what the character generator rolled, and I actually didn't notice that. I suppose it is funny.
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I dunno if it's more hilarious or telling (and depressing) how many people here are absolutely terrified of a woman who enjoys sex.
Tell us more about how seduction is evil and girls will always hurt someone if you try to love them (without alluding to the cheerleader that turned you down).
I pulled the dragon backstory and armor for black lacquered steel full plate (The lacquer has no game effect. It's just a way of getting steel to look black.). In retrospect, it sounds sort of corny. All other details are the same.
To be honest I thought of Murphy from the Dresden Files books.
This is win
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Flag it and move on, please.
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Flag it and move on, please.
Were any of the posts removed mine? I'd like to know so that I can avoid posting such things in the future.
Were any of the posts removed mine? I'd like to know so that I can avoid posting such things in the future.I also removed a bigoted comment and the replies to it.
Flag it and move on, please.
You posted some of the replies, but none of the original offensive content.
You posted some of the replies, but none of the original offensive content.Were any of the posts removed mine? I'd like to know so that I can avoid posting such things in the future.I also removed a bigoted comment and the replies to it.
Flag it and move on, please.
I'll try to be more careful in the future.
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Hedonism is always seen in DnD as chaotic but being gay and having a sex life doesn't have to be that way. This characters flavor sounds more chaotic than lawful which is only a factor because of a paladin opposing chaos as much as evil. What i personally would do is ask to play a paladin of freedom, a CG varientThe issue is that she never actually disobeys the law, and tries to uphold it. As edgy and roguish as she is, if she's obeying and upholding the law she's lawful, even if she tries to change certain laws through legal methods.
Lawful is more than following the law, it is traditional, it is organised, it is community. Roguish is alwys shown as counter to this, as chaotic. if your defining characteristic are almost always associated with chaos it is hard to justify being an exemplar of law. That is not to say it is not possable, depending on how the DM sees alignment. but it is like a raging barbarian pacifist one side or the other will win out and seems odd in the meantime
Lawful is more than following the law, it is traditional, it is organised, it is community. Roguish is alwys shown as counter to this, as chaotic. if your defining characteristic are almost always associated with chaos it is hard to justify being an exemplar of law. That is not to say it is not possable, depending on how the DM sees alignment. but it is like a raging barbarian pacifist one side or the other will win out and seems odd in the meantimeHedonism is always seen in DnD as chaotic but being gay and having a sex life doesn't have to be that way. This characters flavor sounds more chaotic than lawful which is only a factor because of a paladin opposing chaos as much as evil. What i personally would do is ask to play a paladin of freedom, a CG varientThe issue is that she never actually disobeys the law, and tries to uphold it. As edgy and roguish as she is, if she's obeying and upholding the law she's lawful, even if she tries to change certain laws through legal methods.
I disagree heavily. Views on tradition, community, and organization really need to be left up to the individual character. Lawful alignment should be about following and upholding the law and nothing more, and chaotic alignment should be about not following or upholding the law and nothing more.
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I disagree heavily. Views on tradition, community, and organization really need to be left up to the individual character. Lawful alignment should be about following and upholding the law and nothing more, and chaotic alignment should be about not following or upholding the law and nothing more.Lawful is more than following the law, it is traditional, it is organised, it is community. Roguish is alwys shown as counter to this, as chaotic. if your defining characteristic are almost always associated with chaos it is hard to justify being an exemplar of law. That is not to say it is not possable, depending on how the DM sees alignment. but it is like a raging barbarian pacifist one side or the other will win out and seems odd in the meantimeHedonism is always seen in DnD as chaotic but being gay and having a sex life doesn't have to be that way. This characters flavor sounds more chaotic than lawful which is only a factor because of a paladin opposing chaos as much as evil. What i personally would do is ask to play a paladin of freedom, a CG varientThe issue is that she never actually disobeys the law, and tries to uphold it. As edgy and roguish as she is, if she's obeying and upholding the law she's lawful, even if she tries to change certain laws through legal methods.
That is a chaotic view, that it is up to people to decide for themselves. you are more suited to play chaotic after all it seems.
It's not so much that suduction seems chaotic (at least to me), it's that the personality seems more concerned with personal freedom in society than with society's rules.
Your character acts the same either way, but a paladin would, be more concerned with people fitting law, than law fitting people.
The flexibility of mind that redoing law to fit freedom requires would conflict, for me, with the need to have an inflexible Code of Conduct.In my opinion.
I do agree that it would give a strong role-play option, if the DM agreed with it.
But I wouldn't try to force the GM to agree with my opinion that this sort of paladin was main-stream.
I respect your opinion for what it is - opinion, but I wonder if all things have been considered here? :)
If she is Andorian, her laws and lawfulness would be very much concerned with freedom or "personal liberties" if you will and that the laws should exist to protect liberty and individuals, not oppress them - after all one can be a patriot and devout.
Specifically since she would presumably be a Paladin of Shelyn - she would have strong opinions about laws restricting creative expression and inhibiting the expression of love - even it's baser forms. Combine this with an Andorian upbringing and you have a protector of the people who is very lawful.
Just because a person is lawful does not mean they respect law for the sake of law - this is where the "good" and "evil" aspects of the alignment come in. No paladin would look favorably or partake in torture - even if the law of the land mandated it. Does this make them Chaotic? No. Not even close.
Food for thought.
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Kind of a brain bender, is a traditionalist of a chaotic society lawful or chaotic?
The society has laws and use them to protect freedom and liberties - ergo lawful.
For example - a loyal defender of a republic will staunchly assert that the government serves the people by protecting them - protecting them how? By using legislative powers to protect the inherent rights of the citizenry. Thus a Paladin who's upbringing is Andorian and religious sect is Shelyn will staunchly defend the inherent right of people to express individuality via the arts and the freedom to express their love how they see fit so long as they are not breaking laws designed to ensure the safety of others and the person in question or otherwise take away liberties of other with their expression.
Law implies honor, trustworthiness, obedience to authority, and reliability. Her Paladin build achieves this as her recognized authority would be Andorian law and the tenets of her faith. If in another nation thats oppressive - she would probably feel honor bound to subvert and overthrow tyranny especially if that tyranny challenged both of her ethical sources (that people should be free to determine their own fate - basically manifest destiny - and that their expression was denied by law. Such as book burnings, art destruction, or even restrictions on marriage and/or mating.)
It cannot be cogently argued that the Paladin must be obedient to all authority. Simply because then the Paladin would be forced to acquiesce to every tyrannical law - even those of Hell or undead rulers. This is why I assert that the moral/ethical compass is more defined by the god/neutral/evil descriptor of the alignment and by the value system of the character. Such a value system would be influenced heavily by religion and nationality and then filtered through the lens of the alignment.
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I have a character build for you guys to critique:
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The character looks pretty good, although Shield of Swings doesn't seem like that great a deal for me. You give up half damage for a +4 to your AC? That's a pretty big sacrifice. *shrug* Something to consider.
haven't picked my Unsanctioned Knowledge spells yet. Suggestions?
Beguiling Gift
Compel HostilityDazzling Blade
Hypnotism
Tap Inner Beauty
Enthrall
Honeyed Tongue
Hypnotic Pattern
Reckless Infatuation
Seducer's Eyes
Lover's Vengeance
Also, could we maybe all agree to stop with the alignment arguments? This is a home game and the DM and other players are ok with the characterization, so there really isn't anything to argue about.
I have a character build for you guys to critique:
** spoiler omitted **
The character looks pretty good, although Shield of Swings doesn't seem like that great a deal for me. You give up half damage for a +4 to your AC? That's a pretty big sacrifice. *shrug* Something to consider.
haven't picked my Unsanctioned Knowledge spells yet. Suggestions?Beguiling Gift
Compel Hostility
Dazzling Blade
Hypnotism
Tap Inner Beauty
Enthrall
Honeyed Tongue
Hypnotic Pattern
Reckless Infatuation
Seducer's Eyes
Lover's VengeanceAlso, could we maybe all agree to stop with the alignment arguments? This is a home game and the DM and other players are ok with the characterization, so there really isn't anything to argue about.
Thanks for the spell suggestions.
Would I get any use out of replacing Shield of Swings with Combat Expertise? What about Unsanctioned Detection? Which of those is better?
I'm thinking of taking Critical Focus when I hit 9th level and Bleeding Critical at 11th level. I already have a 19/20 x4 critical that gets 3d10 acid damage on top of all the other damage. Add in +4 to confirm and 2d6 bleed, and things are getting really fun.
Also, could we maybe all agree to stop with the alignment arguments? This is a home game and the DM and other players are ok with the characterization, so there really isn't anything to argue about.
It is your opinion that there is nothing to discuss on the matter.
The nature of the debate is that one camp argues that a paladin cannot by RAW be a defender of liberty. The other camp Counter argues that it can. This debate hold relevance in the fact that it arms the player and any future players who may read this with information to present at the time of character approval or if the DM tries to strip powers because the paladin broke an unjust or immoral/unethical law. It speaks to the concept of a whole and is thus, to topic.
Discourse such as the above is important for us to fully explore the rulesets and understand letter vs. spirit of said ruleset. A very creative and flavorful build was created - concerns were voiced and have been adressed. I further contend that it is less of an argument at this point as it is a discourse on how pathfinder is far more diverse and dynamic the editions of the past. ;)
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Views on tradition, community, and organization really need to be left up to the individual character.
You realize that statement is more or less the definition of chaotic individualism right? Following laws is only part of being lawful as other have mentioned.
Like someone else mentioned, I think the Paladin of Freedom from 3.5 would be a great fit with your concept.
Would I get any use out of replacing Shield of Swings with Combat Expertise? What about Unsanctioned Detection? Which of those is better?
I would stick with combat expertise over both the idea of cutting damage in half is not appealing to me. YMMV.
Looking at all that makes me think the Paladin of Freedom, (one of the 3 alternative Paladin classes in the Unearthed Arcana 3.5 ed), would fit for the character. The Paladin of Freedom is a Chaotic Good Holy Warrior who's morals would fit much better with the Sexy, Confident, Edgy, etc... far better than the standard Paladin, (called the Paladin of Justice when you have all 4 variants together).
Dang, someone beat me to it. Ah well. :)
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Also, could we maybe all agree to stop with the alignment arguments? This is a home game and the DM and other players are ok with the characterization, so there really isn't anything to argue about.It is your opinion that there is nothing to discuss on the matter.
Actually, it is a fact that this thread is about a character build, not an alignment discussion. So, basically, it is a fact that if you post something that has nothing to do with the OP's stated purpose of the thread, you are, in fact, thread jacking for whatever reason.
So, in fact, there IS nothing to discuss on the matter in this thread. If you want to start a thread titled "I will come to your house and take your books if you don't play 'Lawful Good' exactly the way I think it should be played", feel free to do so.
But if you have no suggestions on how to help the OP build her character, [insert appropriate internet acronym].
This is actually directed at a bunch of posters in this thread, but your opening sentence kind of got me going.
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First, I *love* the concept. When I finally get around to playing a Paladin, I'm actually intended to build a rather similar sort of character (though male). Very cool.
What I've seen of the stats and feats you've posted so far is great. My thoughts: If WOTC 3.5 material is allowed, you *must* have Battle Blessing from Complete Champion. Makes all your spellcasting swift actions; best Paladin feat ever. I also recommend Law Devotion (same source); +5 to hit/damage as a swift action that lasts an entire combat and it scales as you level.
As for magic stuff, you've got excellent choices there, but you might be interested in getting the Called enchantment on your armor. You can't sleep (or screw) in plate, but being able to bring your armor to you and don it without anyone's help is crazy useful.
As for Pathfinder stuff, stay with the Paladin class only and take the trait Magical Knack; it'll up your spellcasting by 2levels, so you'll only be casting at Paladin -1, instead of -3.
Finally, hunt down the Book of Erotic Fantasy in hardcover or PDF. Great RP flavor for characters of all alignments who like to get naked with other characters along a few decent feats, spells, and tables. Totally worth getting.
good luck!
Then explain the following:
I have a character build for you guys to critique:
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The critique asked for was not limited in any way. Ergo the concept is even up for critique.
Furthermore - you'll note I have argued in defense of this build and offered mechanical suggestions pertaining to feat selection.
Again - you are entitled to your opinion - but you also must accept that your opinion is not the only one and others have supported theirs with rational argumentation - for example I cite that the entire build to include premise was proffered for critique.
There is nothing offensive in pointing out that your statement is opinion based and not based in facts. It is what it is.
Anyways - I will not respond to you again regarding this until you can calm yourself down and acknowledge that I was not attacking you or anyone else or hijacking a thread - merely defending the build in a logical and concise manner and offering advice. Until that time - have a good evening.
I have a character build for you guys to critique:
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I do highly suggest including a ranged weapon in the build - otherwise there will be times when you're really up a certain creek. Consider a composite longbow to take advantage of your STR bonus.
I do highly suggest including a ranged weapon in the build - otherwise there will be times when you're really up a certain creek. Consider a composite longbow to take advantage of your STR bonus.I have a character build for you guys to critique:
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All right. Masterwork +4 strength?
Sidestepping the "Can A Paladin Have A Swingin' Sex Life" meta discussion...
Here's some commentary on the build:
Female human Paladin (Oath of Charity) 8
Strength 18
Dexterity 13
Constitution 14
Intelligence 13
Wisdom 12
Charisma 16
These are reasonable stats, but see below on items selection
Hit Points 69
Fortitude Save +8
Reflex Save +3
Will Save +7
Initiative +1
Base speed 30 ft, current speed 20 ft
Why is your Reflex save so low? Did you forget to add Divine Grace to it? It looks like you did.
CMB +12
CMD +23
AC 23
Touch AC 11
Flat-Footed 22
Base Attack Bonus +8
Basic Melee Attack +12
Basic Ranged Attack +9
These all look good.
Favored class Paladin, favored class option extra skill points
Paladin Abilities
Aura of Resolve
Channel Positive Energy
Aura of Courage
Divine Health
2 Mercies (Selects which ones each day)
Divine Grace
Charitable Hands
Aura of Good
Detect Evil
Smite Evil 3/day
Paladin Spells Per Day
Level 1 2
Level 2 2
Skill Ranks
Sense Motive 8
Diplomacy 8
Perception 8
Spellcraft 8
Heal 8
I'd splash the skills out more, but that's a reasonable selection
Feats
Improved Critical (Scythe)
Power Attack
Bloody Assault
Shield of Swings
Unsanctioned Knowledge
You cannot take Improved Critical until you A) have a BAB of +8 and B) have a feat slot. This means that only fighters get to take Improved Critical at 8th level; Barbarians, Rangers, Paladins and Cavaliers have to wait until 9th level. I recommend you replace it with Shield Focus for reasons that will be clearer below, and definitely take it at 9th level.
66K GP, I'd spend like this:
10K: Belt of STR+CON
4K: Headband of Charisma
4K: +2 Cloak of Resistance
18K: +1 Acidic Burst on Scythe
3K: +1 STR 18 Longbow.
13.5K: +2 Fortified Mithral Breastplate
4K: +2 Buckler.
0.75K: Wand of Cure Light Wound
0.75K: Wand of Bless Weapon
~8K left unspent.
This gives a 30' movement, an AC of 10+8+1+4=23, but you'll be at -3 to your basic melee attack if you use both the buckler and power attack at the same time.
The reason you want the Wand of Bless Weapon is because in addition to making sure you bypass DR/Good, you auto-confirm crits provided your weapon doesn't have keen or keen blades on it - and will still continue to auto-confirm crits at 9th when you can legally get Improved Critical.
This is my non-traditional Paladin.
There are some odd similarities - female paladin, two handed weapon doing x4 crit multipliers.
She's going from Paladin to Shadowdancer. At 1st level, her highest level skill is Disable Device...and I loved the vocal inflections when I said "Agda will pick the lock..."
"Why is the Paladin picking the lock?"
"Law abiding people need locksmiths too."
Technically, after she was built, her choice of deity (Pharasma) became illegal. Since I mostly play PFS online, I don't let this bother me that much, and I'd tell a GM about it at a con game before playing her - and say "It won't make ANY difference at the table, other than me saying a few things in character."
I do like the Unsanctioned Knowledge feat. Sadly, she'll never have the INT to pick it up...
All right. Masterwork +4 strength?I do highly suggest including a ranged weapon in the build - otherwise there will be times when you're really up a certain creek. Consider a composite longbow to take advantage of your STR bonus.I have a character build for you guys to critique:
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Yup - anything more is really not needed - unless you WANT that +1 enhancement - I'd also invest in some ghost touch arrows (+1 enhancement), some silvered arrows, and some adamantium arrows (5-10 of each) for conditional enemies. Be prepared :)
This is my non-traditional Paladin.
There are some odd similarities - female paladin, two handed weapon doing x4 crit multipliers.
She's going from Paladin to Shadowdancer. At 1st level, her highest level skill is Disable Device...and I loved the vocal inflections when I said "Agda will pick the lock..."
"Why is the Paladin picking the lock?"
"Law abiding people need locksmiths too."
Technically, after she was built, her choice of deity (Pharasma) became illegal. Since I mostly play PFS online, I don't let this bother me that much, and I'd tell a GM about it at a con game before playing her - and say "It won't make ANY difference at the table, other than me saying a few things in character."
I do like the Unsanctioned Knowledge feat. Sadly, she'll never have the INT to pick it up...
+1 for creativity - seriously.
This makes me think of an ethical and accountable inquisitor in flavor only.
Re: Unsanctioned knowledge - for a casty type of paladin - it is uh-MAZING. It is probably my favorite part of the above build - mechanically speaking.
You know if you did the Oathbound AND the Sacred Servent Archetype combined with unsanctioned knowledge you'd be getting two additional spells a level.
1 from SS (domain)
1 from your oath(s)
Then unsanctioned broadens your spell selection further. :)
The tax for this is a few less smites a day - but nothing an extra smite feat couldn't fix ;)
Just a thought.
Bigkilla, it's called a double standard. It's like the belief that a woman cannot sexually harass a man, but a man is a perpetually horny monster, always sexually harassing women and such. These notions are wrong, but somehow accepted by most people. Anyway, I think we should move back to the actual Paladin in question and discuss double standards elsewhere.
Do tell me where seduction is classified as an act of Chaos. Because I have NEVER heard of such.
Seduction is akin to deception. Trying to get what you want for your own lustful reasons. I'd say this would not be a trait of a Paladin. Then again its your world so do what you want with it. Play out some of your real life drama in the fantasy realm.
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One teensy problem: no way in heck was robogirl a paladin (she wasn't Lawful-Good).What was that?Didn't someone already do this?
Well, except the physical description.
You must absolutely drop everything, get on Netflix, and stream that movie now!
And the answer is: build the character you're talking about. Except they used a Barbie doll and a Mac, not Pathfinder rules ;-)
Seduction is akin to deception. Trying to get what you want for your own lustful reasons. I'd say this would not be a trait of a Paladin.
That's basically it.
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Do tell me where seduction is classified as an act of Chaos. Because I have NEVER heard of such.Seduction is akin to deception.
Only if you're bad at it.
Edit: I cannot even begin to grasp how dismal your love life would have to be if you cannot grasp that kissing, caressing, having sex in any myraid of ways, or other shows of physical pleasure are pleasing to both parties.
Like do people in this thread know that? That having sex and making out and spending time with someone that you are attracted to and who is attracted to you in turn, even if there isn't a higher sense of permanency with them, really owns? It's great! You should totally try it!
+1 to Cirno. Sadly, I'm still alone.
And seduction is not automatically evil or chaotic, period.
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... even if there isn't a higher sense of permanency with them, really owns? It's great! You should totally try it!
The only part of the quote I disagree with (at least in practice in real life), specifically linking the two bolded parts together. BUT, that's probably because I have a very different ethical/moral/religious/cultural base value system from Cirno.
Actually on topic: build sounds really interesting, and possibly great to play. It would help us to help you more if you gave ideas or concepts that are part of the campaign. As in, we know it's "Eberron inspired", but, as Lex basically gave all my suggestions already, we may be better able to give you more refined advice for your specific campaign. Do you know anything about your campaign? Is there a GM-created player's guide? Do you know anything else about the adventures? Anyway, sounds fun!
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Seduction is not deception. Seduction can be done deceitfully, but so can telling the truth (ask any Aes Sedai). I guess that means that telling the truth is Chaotic, according to the logic in this thread.
No (although some, possibly here, would certainly argue that), but rather the problem with "seduction" is wrongfully shunted into a "shame" category because one of the definitions is associated with doing wrong, and also because of very specific sub-sets of Judeo-Christian value systems (which I hold) associated "sex" with "wrong" (which is wrong, if not downright stupid), regardless of the context, but more specifically in the context of casual sex, as presented in the OP, is considered worse (if you hold sex = evil) or morally unjust (if you don't).
Further mucking up the waters of this discussion is each individuals personal interpretation of "chaotic" and "lawful" - which many disagree on, for similar reasons as listed above.
It's pretty off topic to be discussing Seduction or even fornication at this point. The OP has made up her mind about it.
I wish I could help with the build part... but I am fairly clueless about builds. I just make what seems to fit the character at the time.
I still say you need to switch the Charisma and Strength scores(it isn't all about damage and atk). I know this is a fantasy game but I can't see a woman being sexy when she looks like a pretty version of Magnus Von Magnison the World Champion Strong man. A natural 18 strength is a ridiculous attribute score for a small, sexy woman who seduces other women (unless she clubs them and takes them over her shoulder). In my mind she is ripping out of her sexy dress in a most un-sexy way. You have built a hulking tank not a woman.
To each their own. So have fun with your build, you have put a lot of thought into it!
SGH
I'm going to suggest the idea of expanding a concept here. That is, to consider lawful as more community-based will open the door and again, past certain tired tropes.
From most discussions, a paladin will work to change evil law, while aiming to support "good laws."
So what is a "good law" and why are they enacted? Why would someone dedicate their life to supporting them, at least in part? Why would these laws be developed? One reason I found ages ago, in part of someone's paladin writeup:
He shall endeavor to follow the laws of society and the authority of its rulers, for civilization is the soil in which the weak can thrive. Only with great cause and in the service of Good may he violate the laws or challenge the rightful rulers of a land.
He shall protect the gentle from the exploitation of the powerful. He shall protect the innocent against the debauchery of the depraved. He shall protect the kindly from the abuse of the cruel. He shall protect the righteous from the injustice of tyrants.
A Good and Just Law would then aim to be community-oriented. It creates a stable environment, set of views, that ensure it's safe to wake up in the morning and go outside. It means the farmer has recourse when someone steals his cow, other than reaching for the knife he may not be as familiar with. An Evil and Unjust Law allows and supports Tyranny of the Strong Over the Weak. The farmer would have no recourse.
If you take this version, than caring for "the greater whole" becomes a core part of her personality and she gains an understanding of "but why do I care, just because someone wrote x or y down on a piece of paper?" Understanding the reason, or developing a reason behind the application of these is a further step towards breaking the Paladin Trope.
I still say you need to switch the Charisma and Strength scores(it isn't all about damage and atk). I know this is a fantasy game but I can't see a woman being sexy when she looks like a pretty version of Magnus Von Magnison the World Champion Strong man. A natural 18 strength is a ridiculous attribute score for a small, sexy woman who seduces other women (unless she clubs them and takes them over her shoulder). In my mind she is ripping out of her sexy dress in a most un-sexy way. You have built a hulking tank not a woman.
To each their own. So have fun with your build, you have put a lot of thought into it!
SGH
Considering this is D&D/Pathfinder where even a scrawny being can have immense Str (I couldn't name any examples, but I am sure there are some good ones), I wouldn't care to reflect the looks of my characters using their actual stats. That's like saying low Cha makes that person ugly (which, as discussed in another thread, is simply not true)
And I should ask the OP if they actually have the build done by now.
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The thing that I find funny about this whole thing from reading it is, that if this was a male playing the same character as a male a lot of people would probably think, wow this guys is a douchebag, but since it is assumed that this is a female running the character it is cute and exciting.
In some cases, yeah. It's a case of moderation versus extreme behavior. A guy playing a hyper-sexualized female-on-female PC runs the risk of his friends at the table wanting to say, "Dude, get a room, and take your character sheet with you!"
I mean, really. It's kind of gross, isn't it?
Being socially aware enough and capable enough of handling these things in an adult manner is part of overall maturity at the gaming table. It's an overall mark of being able to work socially with other people.
This "check-maybe-I-should-ask-first" trait is not something everyone has. To put it in a more base manner...
The hyper-sexualized, female-on-female PC is likely something someone would store in a private hard drive. When played at the gaming table, that fantasy is now brought out in front of everyone. That right there? That is what makes others uncomfortable.
In other words, playing a hyper concept involves being an adult about the concept. It involves making sure your friends are comfortable with what you're doing. A player at the table should only push as far as others are comfortable with. They might also try playing it with a sense of humor.
If you're uncertain what does make a female friend at the table uncomfortable?
Approach her and ask her.
Respecting, communicating with one another is paramount. If she wants to play the reverse, she might ask you and the best thing you can do is offer honest, good feedback. You might find you're more open to certain concepts. You might find this to be less true. Communication, especially where comfort levels are concerned, is never a bad thing.
As for it being more a male trope than a female one, yeah, I could see that. It is not because it doesn't exist in the reverse. The ratio I've run into of women versus men in these scenarios is about 1:3 from the experiences where I can more immediately call into memory. Most women I've spoken to report something similar, which is both uncomfortable and sad. If we want to change the perception, we need to change the experience.
Communication is king at any gaming table. We need to do more of it.