Warforged in Pathfinder albeit in mechanics only

[andromada369]

I got to thinking last night in bed randomly about how people would love to see the warforged in pathfinder and how Pizo can't publish it because it isn't open content. Then it hit me, go ahead and update all the mechanical stuff for the warforged and then give it a new identity. Easier said than done I'm sure, but with enough help from the community I wouldn't be surprised if Pizo could pull it off. Then again I could be completely talking out my ass as I don't know what it takes to put together something like this. I'm sure there are some eberon fanboys that won't settle for anything other than the warfarged, but for the most part I'm sure people would enjoy the new fluff and backstory to this race. So now as far as a new name I quite like the name Battlewrought. And instead of being created from a creation forge they are created from battlewrought foundries. Thoughts?

[Black Moria]

You can use the warforged stats and call them Gearman. Check out the Starfall entry under Numeria in the Pathfinder Wiki and you will find intelligent metal constructs called Gearman are already in the game.

Paizo may expand upon them if a Numeria based AP ever sees the light of day or if there is ever a Numeria guide book, but for now, you can file the name Warforged off and put Gearman on and be good to go.

[Jeraa]

Sure Paizo can do it. They could do it for mind flayers and beholders as well. But they've already said they won't. There is nothing stoping a player from doing it for their own games,but they will never be anything official from Paizo like that (unless they change their minds).

[andromada369]

Jeraa wrote:

Sure Paizo can do it. They could do it for mind flayers and beholders as well. But they've already said they won't. There is nothing stoping a player from doing it for their own games,but they will never be anything official from Paizo like that (unless they change their minds).

If Paizo said they won't refluff any wotc ip then fine end of discussion. It's no big deal, and like you said people will convert it for their own games. It was just a thought that's all.

[drkfathr1]

You can also use the Ironborn from Open Design, and I think one of Monte Cook's 3rd edition books had something similar...both OGL. (Might be the same race)

[andromada369]

drkfathr1 wrote:

You can also use the Ironborn from Open Design, and I think one of Monte Cook's 3rd edition books had something similar...both OGL. (Might be the same race)

Yes I know about the Ironborn and have played them in both 3.5 and Pathfinder. However the warforged and the ironborn are completely separate in both crunch and fluff. The warforged are more "construct than living being" whereas the ironborn are more "living being than construct" in mechanics and flavor, or at least in my opinion. Again this was just an idea to give warforged fans the warforged without infringing on wotc's ip. That said I was unaware that Paizo stated they wouldn't reflavor wotc ip. But that doesn't stop 3rd party publishers from doing it, or maybe it does, who knows.

[asaenvolk]

look a the Doll, Soulbound (Curse of the Crimson: Edge of Anarchy PZO9007 1, page 84), scale them up and it will tell you how to make a warforged for Galorian. One could come up with a method baised on the creation of Soulbound Dolls, instead you would have Soulbound Golems! You could easily tweak a few systems in it, heck if you wanted to make a Souldbound Golem making artifact I could also see that as being possible (though maby not morally pleasant).

[Elton]

andromada369 wrote:

drkfathr1 wrote:

You can also use the Ironborn from Open Design, and I think one of Monte Cook's 3rd edition books had something similar...both OGL. (Might be the same race)

Again this was just an idea to give warforged fans the warforged without infringing on wotc's ip.

Someday, the term "IP Thief" and even the word "Thief" will not be in our lexicon, as the day will come when all will be freely given. *grumbles*

However, I am a big fan of Eberron and I have Races of Eberron and Eberron itself (and a lot of the supplements). Warforged are more constructs than living beings in mechanical flavor. I'm surprised, however, that the race (and Shifters) were not given Level Adjustments since Werewolves and Constructs have high LAs.