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Book of the River Nations Excel Spreadsheet?


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Has anyone done a sheet for kingdom management that incorporates the additions from Jon Brazer's Book of the River Kingdoms? I want to use it but I'd prefer to avoid the trouble of writing my own sheet if it's already been done by someone who, unlike me, knows what they're doing.

Silver Crusade

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I adapted a sheet made by another person on this forum (RunebladeX i believe). It's not as clean at present since I had to change some formating to accomadate the additional buildings and different resources used, as well as adjust a few costs. Plus for the life of me can't figure out how to change the information in the help bubbles that pop up. If you'd like I'll send you the sheet I have so far tonight, but remember it's still a WIP compared to the very nice and well done sheet I started with.


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Xzaral wrote:
I adapted a sheet made by another person on this forum (RunebladeX i believe). It's not as clean at present since I had to change some formating to accomadate the additional buildings and different resources used, as well as adjust a few costs. Plus for the life of me can't figure out how to change the information in the help bubbles that pop up. If you'd like I'll send you the sheet I have so far tonight, but remember it's still a WIP compared to the very nice and well done sheet I started with.

That would be fantastic, thanks! My email is theuglyamerican@gmail.com.

Andoran

I've updated what I think is the same spreadsheet with the kingdom building additions and implemented costs, etc. Sorry, no

Spoiler:
mass combat rules
yet.

Gregg, I just fired it off to your e-mail address. Hopefully this helps.

Xzaral, if you'd like the file also, give me your e-mail (or point me to it) and I'll send it your way.

Silver Crusade

Pathfinder Deluxe Comics Subscriber; Pathfinder Adventure Path, Card Game Subscriber

I'd definitely like to see it.

Spoiler:
xzaral at yahoo dot com

Much appreciated and thank you in advance :)

Paizo Employee CEO

Timothy Withem wrote:

I've updated what I think is the same spreadsheet with the kingdom building additions and implemented costs, etc. Sorry, no ** spoiler omitted ** yet.

Gregg, I just fired it off to your e-mail address. Hopefully this helps.

Xzaral, if you'd like the file also, give me your e-mail (or point me to it) and I'll send it your way.

I'd love to take a look at the spreadsheet! lisa@paizo.com

Thanks!

-Lisa


Lisa Stevens wrote:
Timothy Withem wrote:

I've updated what I think is the same spreadsheet with the kingdom building additions and implemented costs, etc. Sorry, no ** spoiler omitted ** yet.

Gregg, I just fired it off to your e-mail address. Hopefully this helps.

Xzaral, if you'd like the file also, give me your e-mail (or point me to it) and I'll send it your way.

I'd love to take a look at the spreadsheet! lisa@paizo.com

Thanks!

-Lisa

If its a normal excel spreadsheet then I would love to take a look at it.

adamcieslicki@googlemail.com


Could I have a copy also? My guys *just* started kingdom building last night and this would be a godsend,

-- david
Papa.DRB

My email is papa_drb@yahoo.com

Xzaral wrote:
I adapted a sheet made by another person on this forum (RunebladeX i believe). It's not as clean at present since I had to change some formating to accomadate the additional buildings and different resources used, as well as adjust a few costs. Plus for the life of me can't figure out how to change the information in the help bubbles that pop up. If you'd like I'll send you the sheet I have so far tonight, but remember it's still a WIP compared to the very nice and well done sheet I started with.


Pathfinder Adventure Path, Companion, Roleplaying Game Subscriber
Timothy Withem wrote:

I've updated what I think is the same spreadsheet with the kingdom building additions and implemented costs, etc. Sorry, no ** spoiler omitted ** yet.

Gregg, I just fired it off to your e-mail address. Hopefully this helps.

Xzaral, if you'd like the file also, give me your e-mail (or point me to it) and I'll send it your way.

I would also love to take a look at the sheet, if possible:

E-mail:
IgnusFireSpirit at gmail dot com

Andoran

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I've sent the file out to everyone.

Again, my group's only at the end of book three. As we move into the later books, if I add more content, I'll resend the file out to you all.

Hope everyone gets good use out of the file.


Timothy Withem wrote:
If you'd like the file also, give me your e-mail (or point me to it) and I'll send it your way.

Oh, oh, oh me too, me too...Pleeease? :)

I would love a copy if You're still ok with sending it out.

my e-ddress:
mindbodysoul at xnet dot co dot nz

Mucho Gracias

Silver Crusade

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If it's not too much trouble this would be hella useful :-)

Spoiler:
johnpocalypse at hotmail dot com

President, Jon Brazer Enterprises

Tim, if you want, I can post it on my website so you don't have to send it over and over again. And whenever you make an update, if you send it to me, I can just update the file.

If you want to discuss it, send me an email at:

Spoiler:

contact at jonbrazer dot com

Cheliax Owner - Enchanted Grounds

Dale McCoy Jr wrote:

Tim, if you want, I can post it on my website so you don't have to send it over and over again. And whenever you make an update, if you send it to me, I can just update the file.

If you want to discuss it, send me an email at:
** spoiler omitted **

And you'll let us know when you post it?

Please?

...


Found a bug. I'd fix it but I don't know where to look.

Fletcher +1 Economy & +1 Stability.

The sheet is giving +2 Loyalty & +2 Stability

I have not checked the others yet as my guys are only in month 3 and with 3 worshipers of Erastil, you know that I fletcher had to be an early build!

-- david
Papa.DRB

Xzaral wrote:
I adapted a sheet made by another person on this forum (RunebladeX i believe). It's not as clean at present since I had to change some formating to accomadate the additional buildings and different resources used, as well as adjust a few costs. Plus for the life of me can't figure out how to change the information in the help bubbles that pop up. If you'd like I'll send you the sheet I have so far tonight, but remember it's still a WIP compared to the very nice and well done sheet I started with.

President, Jon Brazer Enterprises

Drogon wrote:
Dale McCoy Jr wrote:

Tim, if you want, I can post it on my website so you don't have to send it over and over again. And whenever you make an update, if you send it to me, I can just update the file.

If you want to discuss it, send me an email at:
** spoiler omitted **

And you'll let us know when you post it?

Please?

...

Assuming it gets posted, yes absolutely!

Andoran

David,

Thanks for the heads up. I just went through the sheet and fixed it (along with a couple others {oops}).

Dale,

I've sent you the revised file (please ignore the first one I sent you).

Everyone I've sent the file to previously, please visit Dale's site once it's posted and download the newest (and correct) version.

-Tim

President, Jon Brazer Enterprises

Timothy Withem wrote:

Dale,

I've sent you the revised file (please ignore the first one I sent you).

Everyone I've sent the file to previously, please visit Dale's site once it's posted and download the newest (and correct) version.

-Tim

Awesome Tim,

I'll get this on the web tonight (tomorrow morning at the latest). I'll post a link ASAP.

Thanks.

Silver Crusade

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Sweet.

President, Jon Brazer Enterprises

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Link to Kingdom Sheet with BotRN.xls

I would like to thank Tim Withem for coming up with this and being willing to share it with everyone!

Thank you Sir!

Cheliax Owner - Enchanted Grounds

Awesome!


Well coming up with it might not be entirely the correct description.....

The sheets looks extremely familiar to me.... probably cause I made the base version of it :-). (Except the River Nations stuff.).

Still, more than happy to see this being taken forward, expanded, etc.

Hell... I will probably use this expanded version myself.


Sorry to have to be the bearer of bad tidings, but the Fletcher is still incorrect.

should be +1 Economy & Stability
is +1 Loyalty & Stability

How do I fix it? I assume there are hidden cells with the data, but can you tell me where?

-- david
Papa.DRB

Timothy Withem wrote:

David,

Thanks for the heads up. I just went through the sheet and fixed it (along with a couple others {oops}).

Dale,

I've sent you the revised file (please ignore the first one I sent you).

Everyone I've sent the file to previously, please visit Dale's site once it's posted and download the newest (and correct) version.

-Tim


Love the format of this one, only thing that I really miss is the weather generator that used to be there. It was a nice touch and something that I would love to see again if thats possible


Papa-DRB wrote:

Sorry to have to be the bearer of bad tidings, but the Fletcher is still incorrect.

should be +1 Economy & Stability
is +1 Loyalty & Stability

How do I fix it? I assume there are hidden cells with the data, but can you tell me where?

-- david
Papa.DRB

There are hidden cells.... however because it started out as a less comprehensive excel sheet, they are repeated on each (city) page.

They are in the rows behind the names/fill-in fields. E.g. For the fletcher in column E through N. You can unprotect, select and unhide...... and then adjust it.

Andoran

D'oh...That fletcher is the bane of my existence :)

I've fixed it in all the cities (for real this time {crosses fingers}).

I've also added in the castle additions (many of the bonuses display in the city comments area), as well as split defense into M&R for Melee and Ranged (since some of the castle additions differentiate between which phase they add defense to) and resent it to Dale.

Berhagen, I apologize. I mistakenly credited the original to RunebladeX toward the beginning of this thread and never corrected myself.

My hats off to you sir! This sheet has really helped in my Kingmaker game!

/bow

Jestem, I'll have to look into a weather generator functionality. If I can find something that's easy to bolt on, I'll try to do it soon.

President, Jon Brazer Enterprises

Updated!

Berhagen wrote:

Well coming up with it might not be entirely the correct description.....

The sheets looks extremely familiar to me.... probably cause I made the base version of it :-). (Except the River Nations stuff.).

Berhagen,

I'm going to be announcing it shortly my website. As the file's original creator, would you like to be credited as well? If so, how do you want your name presented?


Hi,

That would be nice. You can just use my name (Rob Vermeulen)

Thanks!


Berhagen, Timothy & Dale...
THANK YOU ALL!!!

You da man...errrm, men...errrm, beings...errrrm...well, I'm sure
you get the drift...


Timothy Withem wrote:

I've updated what I think is the same spreadsheet with the kingdom building additions and implemented costs, etc. Sorry, no ** spoiler omitted ** yet.

Gregg, I just fired it off to your e-mail address. Hopefully this helps.

Xzaral, if you'd like the file also, give me your e-mail (or point me to it) and I'll send it your way.

Hi, I'd love to get it as well... thanks!

fateoptional at yahoo dot com


Timothy Withern wrote:

David,

Thanks for the heads up. I just went through the sheet and fixed it (along with a couple others {oops}).

Dale,

I've sent you the revised file (please ignore the first one I sent you).

Everyone I've sent the file to previously, please visit Dale's site once it's posted and download the newest (and correct) version.

-Tim

I would appreciate being sent the updated file at:

Spoiler:
silverhair2012@gmail.com
. If you would be so kind.

President, Jon Brazer Enterprises

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silverhair2008 wrote:

I would appreciate being sent the updated file at:

** spoiler omitted **. If you would be so kind.

The most current file is at this link.


Got another bug for you (Can you tell that part of my job, when I was working, was software tester!!!)....

Since this has the Book of River Nations updates, the Marshal and Warden "jobs" got switched, per THIS POST and Dale's answer. However, the "popup" text for those two cells still show the original text.

Can you change that, and by the way, how do I a) change it myself? or b) turn all those "popups" off?

-- david
Papa.DRB
(retired since 12/31/2009!)


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Many thanks to Berhelm and Timothy Withagen for all their hard work on this! Things like this are why the Paizo boards are such a great community.

And Dale -- Book of the River Nations is terrific!

RPG Superstar 2011 Top 8

Dotting for reference. Thanks!


Hi,
as my group is just entering book 2 I looking for all tips and tricks to run the kingdom as smooth as possible.

So is it possible you sent the sheet to me too? (/cast charm)

Spoiler:
sarados@arcor.de

Andoran

I've flipped the Warden and Marshal bonuses and vacancy penalties, per the BotRN and resent the file.

I am still looking at a weather generator as requested. I found one I like (built for a Greyhawk I believe), but it is very complicated and doesn't always generate correctly, so I'm working on it and trying to tweak things to see if I can get it to a good spot before I look at adding it to the kingdom sheet.

Tryn, please visit the link in Dale's post to download the file for use.

Andoran

Pathfinder Adventure Path, Campaign Setting, Card Game, Companion, Modules, Pawns, Roleplaying Game Subscriber

@ Timothy:
For the weather there is a simpler solution than a weather generator.

Look this site:
http://www.tutiempo.net/en/Climate/KIEV_BORISPOL/01-1978/333460.htm
It has the real weather pattern from all the world, with temperature, wind speed, if there were precipitations and what kind, fog and visibility range.
all recorders for years.

I have chose the Kiev area as it seem to reflect very well the Stolen lands probable weather pattern.

Large plain open toward the north pole, as sea nearby (south of Iobaria), a swamp nearby. Even the latitude seem right.
So you don't need any weather table, you can simply copy-paste it from the table.

I am sure that US people can find a similar site with the values in miles, yards and Fahrenheit.

President, Jon Brazer Enterprises

Timothy Withem wrote:
I've flipped the Warden and Marshal bonuses and vacancy penalties, per the BotRN and resent the file.

The latest version is on the web (same link as above). I realized that I never mentioned on my site so I'm writing a post and it should go live tomorrow.

Paizo Employee CEO

Any chance that you could add the buildings that Charles Evans and others created in Wayfinders #4 and #5? You can download them for free here on the Paizo site. The first article is on page 84 of Wayfinder #4 and actually includes pictures of the buildings! In Wayfinder #5, it starts on page 18. There are some new art pieces in that article too.

Thanks for working on this! It is a boon for my campaign.

-Lisa

Andoran

Lisa,

I hadn't read through WF 4 & 5 yet. I really like the new building/hex ideas and will get them added into the spreadsheet as soon as I can. I've also created building tiles for the buildings from BotRN (albeit at a lower res than the originals or the wayfinder ones - raster art, not vector). I didn't know if I would need to get approval from Dale and/or you to post them, but I'll send them to both of you to take a look at and let me know (if they're fine to post, feel free to add them to your site if you'd like, Dale).

Diego,

I'll definitely check out that site. It sounds very convenient! Thanks for the input!

Paizo Employee CEO

Timothy Withem wrote:

Lisa,

I hadn't read through WF 4 & 5 yet. I really like the new building/hex ideas and will get them added into the spreadsheet as soon as I can. I've also created building tiles for the buildings from BotRN (albeit at a lower res than the originals or the wayfinder ones - raster art, not vector). I didn't know if I would need to get approval from Dale and/or you to post them, but I'll send them to both of you to take a look at and let me know (if they're fine to post, feel free to add them to your site if you'd like, Dale).

Diego,

I'll definitely check out that site. It sounds very convenient! Thanks for the input!

Hey Tim:

I have no problem if Dale doesn't! Thanks for taking the time and making these building images. They are the bomb!

Now if you can get the two Wayfinder articles into the spreadsheet, I will have all I need to expand the buildings in my campaign! :)

-Lisa

President, Jon Brazer Enterprises

Lisa Stevens wrote:
Thanks for taking the time and making these building images. They are the bomb!

What Lisa said. I'll get the images on my site today or tomorrow. I'm not allowed to do things like download/upload files on my day job computer.

Andoran

Any idea exactly how big the foreign quarter is supposed to be (in Wayfinder 4)? To me it looks like it's a full 16 city blocks (4 sq. x 4 sq.). That seems to make sense, but also makes it the biggest "building" in the system, so I wanted to make sure what the consensus is before I add it to the spreadsheet. While I'm at it, I assume the Fortress of the Faith and the University are 4 blocks (2x2) and the Millpond is 1 block (1x1). Everyone think that looks/sounds correct?


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Dale McCoy Jr wrote:
silverhair2008 wrote:

I would appreciate being sent the updated file at:

** spoiler omitted **. If you would be so kind.

The most current file is at this link.

My group is loving the older 2003 Excel version.. we wanted to upgrade but the 2007 version is acting funny on our older software. Is there only the 2007 Excel version out there or are we missing something obvious with an updated 2003 file?

Loving BotRN btw!


Timothy Withem wrote:
Any idea exactly how big the foreign quarter is supposed to be (in Wayfinder 4)? To me it looks like it's a full 16 city blocks (4 sq. x 4 sq.). That seems to make sense, but also makes it the biggest "building" in the system, so I wanted to make sure what the consensus is before I add it to the spreadsheet. While I'm at it, I assume the Fortress of the Faith and the University are 4 blocks (2x2) and the Millpond is 1 block (1x1). Everyone think that looks/sounds correct?

Sounds about right to me.

Paizo Employee CEO

Timothy Withem wrote:
Any idea exactly how big the foreign quarter is supposed to be (in Wayfinder 4)? To me it looks like it's a full 16 city blocks (4 sq. x 4 sq.). That seems to make sense, but also makes it the biggest "building" in the system, so I wanted to make sure what the consensus is before I add it to the spreadsheet. While I'm at it, I assume the Fortress of the Faith and the University are 4 blocks (2x2) and the Millpond is 1 block (1x1). Everyone think that looks/sounds correct?

I think you may well be right with your assumptions. I think it is kind of cool that the foreign quarter is bigger than anything else. I would say that you should go with that!

-Lisa

President, Jon Brazer Enterprises

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Building Images are Up! I'll get them posted on the website ASAP.

Grand Lodge

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Timothy Withem wrote:
I've flipped the Warden and Marshal bonuses and vacancy penalties, per the BotRN and resent the file.

I thought that was a Typo. Why were they swapped?

President, Jon Brazer Enterprises

Timothy Withem wrote:
I've flipped the Warden and Marshal bonuses and vacancy penalties, per the BotRN and resent the file.
Crispy3ed wrote:
I thought that was a Typo. Why were they swapped?

Nope, that was intentional. Traditionally the Warden is the nature police and the Marshal the city defender. The APG Nature Warden PrC got it right: "Nature wardens are guardians of the wild places of the world."

Some people commented on the fact they were reversed from their traditional roles so I fixed it.

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