Unless he's wielding pepperboxes, he cannot reload unless he has a free hand, meaning no TWF every round unless he spend one or two rounds to reload.Pepperboxes, unlike true revolvers, don't turn their barrels on their own. You still need a free hand to pull that off.
Oh, that's good to know. I wasn't aware of that. That's one more reason to not call the gunslinger broken for that trick.
Unless he's wielding pepperboxes, he cannot reload unless he has a free hand, meaning no TWF every round unless he spend one or two rounds to reload.Then again, he could also use 2 pistols of the infinite sky... or somehow tricked you at enhancing his pistols with the endless ammunition enhaqncement, even though you cannot apply it to firearms... and even though it could be done since a bow's or crossbow's nocking could easily be substituted be pulling back a firearm's flintlock mecanism.
A dual wielding double barreled pistolaro is quite rules legal, and can reload so as to get his full attack sequence.
I illustrate exactly how at the link below.
That no longer works, however, since they nerfed Weapon Cords to a Move action.
That no longer works, however, since they nerfed Weapon Cords to a Move action.
Ah thank you I was unaware of that. Was that an errata, an FAQ, or a reprint in a new book?
That no longer works, however, since they nerfed Weapon Cords to a Move action.Ah thank you I was unaware of that. Was that an errata, an FAQ, or a reprint in a new book?
It's an Errata, which can be found in the FAQ section, which will be changed in future printings of Ultimate Equipment.
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I'll jump on the bandwagon of undead threads.
We just got done with a game of all gunslingers of various types. The game was based on the movie Magnificent 7. They were all Pre-Gen characters and I played Vin the only real Gunslinger in the group.
If we played the game like the movie, only 3 characters would have survived but we all did.
Anyway the only real thing that I hate about gunslingers is that there isn't a Grit Pool. I think that if I had more points I would have used more deeds. Also, I think there would have been more deeds created in other books if there was a grit pool.
Another thing: the dice hate me so a Gunslinger would be perfect for my low rolls. :)
Argh! Zombie thread! *Turns undead*
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I think after twelve pages we can come to the conclusion that nobody hates gunslingers.
Ahem... *raises hand*.
OK, mechanically they're whatever. And I try not to ban anything from my games unless it's outright broken or I'm not confident in my understanding of the rules. (Summoners foot that bill.)
But I hate guns in fantasy. If I wanted a Steampunk or Wild West or modern campaign, I wouldn't be playing Pathfinder - there are way better systems for that.
I don't get the summoner, and I hate Eastern gimmicks (not due to any dislike of Eastern culture, but rather the frustration that Eastern weapons/items are ALWAYS superior to their Western counterparts even if that makes no sense, apparently because WEEABOO!!!), but nothing breaks the circle for me quite like a gun-wielder in the middle of battle between knights and wizards.
I was being facetious.In that case, cheerfully withdrawn!
Except for that bit about how much I hate the assumed superiority of Eastern weapons. I will never miss an opportunity to harp on that.
But they obviously are superior! I mean, with the crappy iron and stagnant military traditions in Japan how could they not have better weapons, tactics, and philosophies of warfare than the political powderkeg that was medieval Europe?!?
Seriously, the only Asian weapon I'd consider to be flat-out superior to its European counterpart is the repeating crossbow, since it was the single fastest firing weapon of its day bar none. Even then, the cost in range, power and accuracy meant it lacked the versatility of more powerful crossbows.
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Anyway the only real thing that I hate about gunslingers is that there isn't a Grit Pool. I think that if I had more points I would have used more deeds. Also, I think there would have been more deeds created in other books if there was a grit pool.Another thing: the dice hate me so a Gunslinger would be perfect for my low rolls. :)
Excuse me but um, did you actually fire your weapon? Because if you did, you would have regained grit every round or close to it.
Example:
Roll a 2- hit. Roll Damage-boss dies or is close to death.
2nd attack: roll a 3- hit. Roll damage- boss dies. Regain grit.
2nd round. Spend grit. Roll a 7. Hit. Roll damage grunt is dead. Regain grit.
The only thing that gives validity to you having problems with grit is that you used pregens. So maybe it took three shots to kill the boss and 2 for the grunts. That's still a grit a round.
I love gunslinger, it's one of the few classes that not too far behind full casters in high level combat. Only problem is that anything tactic against arrow works on bullets as well, but it's not that much of a problem, really. When against with other players or GM, most of them only care able damage or caster saved or dead spells. With enough luck, gunslinger works fine. You never see a two weapon fighter that are smart enough to use tower shield or seeing a rogue drop prone. So far I have not played with anyone that would use those rules like I did. They consider it was a waste of action.