Dr. Johnny Fever |
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I think FGG has struck a nice balance between the two: products like Slumbering Tsar, Hex Crawl Classics, Splintered Faiths, and The Northlands Saga provide new gaming experiences, while having one or two conversion projects ongoing ensures that fantastic older products continue to sell under the Pathfinder rules.
I certainly don't want EVERYTHING NG wrote to be converted. Off the top of my head I'd say City of Brass, Tomb of Abysthor, Crucible of Freya and Bard's Gate for sure, with Trouble at Durbenford and Lost City of Barakus as possible maybes.
I'm not sure if the Judges Guild stuff is viable, but I'd shell out cash for sure for a conversion of City State of the Invincible Overlord too, come to think of it.
DJF
Tzzarg |
I'm with Dr. Fever on this one. I don't want to see FGG only do retreads/conversions either. I'm looking forward to Richard Pett's decadent/decaying/Styes like city state sourcebook and associated adventures later this year or next and hoping they convert some to the oldies as well. Tomb of Abysthor is at the top of my list followed by Vault of Larin Karr. Maybe a megaproduct that combines several together for a setting?
Skeeter Green |
I with Dr. Fever on this one. I don't want to see FGG only do retreads/conversions either. I'm looking forward to Richard Pett's decadent/decaying city state sourcebook and associated adventures later this year or next and hoping they convert some to the oldies as well. Tomb of Abysthor is at the top of my list followed by Vault of Larin Karr.
We have one more conversion on deck for next year (I hope its next year...) from what I know, then it will probably be all new, all the time. Plans do change, so don't take this as gospel, but it's what I know at this point.
Now, that being said, we may take older items that were never published, or published under original rules formats, and provide those, but that is STRICTLY speculation on my part. No plans that I know of at this point, but I could see it happening in the future.
And a lot of this is based on what sells, and what doesnt. If new adventure do poorly, but conversions of existing stuff do awesome, we're probably going to put out a lot of conversions. thats just smart business. I think our new stuff is pretty good, so Im not too worried about that end, and I know our conversions ARE AWESOME, so I think we'll have a pretty good balance through the forseeable future.
but what do I know? Im chained to a desk every night converting apples to oranges, then into fruit salad, then into a smoothy, then into a treehouse...
SG
Tzzarg |
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Skeeter, I can understand where FGG and its personnel are coming from. You folks have access (or at least Bill does) to the sales data, we don't. So going with what sells the best makes sense.
As much as I would like to see it, I doubt that I will see anything like Tsar released for Pathfinder ever again--the financial risk is too much (although a great proposition for a megaadventure from a well known author and Kickstarter funding it might not be out of the question). But there's a niche in PFRP that you folks have done a great job of filling--the arc campaign that spans several levels.
I like Paizo's modules a lot, but at times they seem like cotton candy--impressive appearance and maps and good writing, but the 32 page length means when you are done you don't always feel that you accomplished something epic. The APs are great as well, but they require a long term commitment from lvl 1 to 12+. That sweet spot adventure where one can take an existing party of levels 5-8 and do something epic/heroic (GDQ Series and Red Hand of Doom being prime examples) is a niche that some of FGG's products fill very well.
I hope FGG keeps putting products out that fill that niche and mining the back catalog for gems. For all the requests I've seem for conversions of Abysthor and other old NG modules, I know they are in there.
Shem |
Soooo........whatcha doin..........how's that Rappan Athuk conversion/update goin? Good? Good.....
Soooo........yeah.....there's this other teensy, tiny NG book written just a little while ago.....and it could really use some Skeeter lovin (feel dirty even writing that) after Rappan Athuk is finished.....
....it involves an efreeti or two......
....and a certain CR 35 Sultan of the Efreeti....
....or, in other words.....
Any chance for a City of Brass Pathfinder conversion?
DJF
Nice Idea...
Chuck Wright Frog God Games |
Dr. Johnny Fever |
I will say right now that I don't have the raw art for City of Brass.
I would be 100% behind the combo book you're referring to, Chuck.
Also, I'd be satisfied with a straight up conversion of just the City of Brass appendix that contained all of the NPCs, and then a copy/paste of the art from the original CoB .pdf....
The '1001 Tales of Brass' storyline works fine as is, IMO. I don't think that would need any updates, or the supporting maps for that matter.
Doing the conversion wouldn't be pretty or glorious work to be sure, but the final product would be functional...
Chuck Wright Frog God Games |
Richard Pett Contributor |
I'm with Dr. Fever on this one. I don't want to see FGG only do retreads/conversions either. I'm looking forward to Richard Pett's decadent/decaying/Styes like city state sourcebook and associated adventures later this year or next and hoping they convert some to the oldies as well. Tomb of Abysthor is at the top of my list followed by Vault of Larin Karr. Maybe a megaproduct that combines several together for a setting?
You and me both Tzzarg:)
I'm working on it right now, in fact I've been on it for some time, but Greg and I both want to get something out we want rather than bring it on too soon, before it's fully malignant. I think later on this year is looking good.
Rich
Dawn R Fischer Frog God Games |
For those who missed it the first time:
Here's the big announcement!!
Kthulhu wrote:I beleive that some sort of big annoucement/update is scheduled for 16 March.Small update the 4th:
Im having a hard day at work, so......small update turns into BIG MARCH 16TH UPDATE!!!!!!!!
New Maps for approx. 10 locations (can't get specific, yet), suitable for placing the small representations of your choice upon. To clarify--> WE HAVE BATTLEMAPS, DONE BY NONE OTHER THEN RICK SARDINHA!!!! READY FOR USE WITH THE MINIS OF YOUR CHOICE!!!!
I don't know if they will be separate or how they will be distributed, but they will be there. At this time, there are 30+ maps detailing 10ish encounter areas (I tried to pick the most iconic/needed areas). I currently have the low-res maps, and they are FANTASTIC looking. Im really impressed.
Ill be taking questions now...yes, you in the back
<..will they have secret doors and traps and stuff removed?>
why yes, they will! When you place these babies on the table, you won't be giving away the farm to the PCs. the least we could do for ya.
You over there!
<Can we suggest locations?>
Nah, sorry, we have a budget, and can't give every location, but I believe you will be quite happy with the choices, and many are usable in more than one location. Next?
<What size are the maps? 24 x 30, 18 x 96, 4 x 5?>
We will be doing 8.5 by 11. Anyone else?
<Can I just give you my wallet/soul now?>
Good question! As much as I would like to oblige, not really my department. Our people will get in touch with you...<evil grin>
so, Kthulhu, I hope that satisfies you, for a while...I know how you Elder Beings are...lol
SG
Dark Sasha |
Tzzarg wrote:I'm with Dr. Fever on this one. I don't want to see FGG only do retreads/conversions either. I'm looking forward to Richard Pett's decadent/decaying/Styes like city state sourcebook and associated adventures later this year or next and hoping they convert some to the oldies as well. Tomb of Abysthor is at the top of my list followed by Vault of Larin Karr. Maybe a megaproduct that combines several together for a setting?You and me both Tzzarg:)
I'm working on it right now, in fact I've been on it for some time, but Greg and I both want to get something out we want rather than bring it on too soon, before it's fully malignant. I think later on this year is looking good.
Rich
I'm looking forward to reading this!
Skeeter Green |
For those who missed it the first time:
Here's the big announcement!!
Skeeter Green wrote:Kthulhu wrote:I beleive that some sort of big annoucement/update is scheduled for 16 March.Small update the 4th:
Im having a hard day at work, so......small update turns into BIG MARCH 16TH UPDATE!!!!!!!!
New Maps for approx. 10 locations (can't get specific, yet), suitable for placing the small representations of your choice upon. To clarify--> WE HAVE BATTLEMAPS, DONE BY NONE OTHER THEN RICK SARDINHA!!!! READY FOR USE WITH THE MINIS OF YOUR CHOICE!!!!
I don't know if they will be separate or how they will be distributed, but they will be there. At this time, there are 30+ maps detailing 10ish encounter areas (I tried to pick the most iconic/needed areas). I currently have the low-res maps, and they are FANTASTIC looking. Im really impressed.
Ill be taking questions now...yes, you in the back
<..will they have secret doors and traps and stuff removed?>
why yes, they will! When you place these babies on the table, you won't be giving away the farm to the PCs. the least we could do for ya.
You over there!
<Can we suggest locations?>
Nah, sorry, we have a budget, and can't give every location, but I believe you will be quite happy with the choices, and many are usable in more than one location. Next?
<What size are the maps? 24 x 30, 18 x 96, 4 x 5?>
We will be doing 8.5 by 11. Anyone else?
<Can I just give you my wallet/soul now?>
Good question! As much as I would like to oblige, not really my department. Our people will get in touch with you...<evil grin>
so, Kthulhu, I hope that satisfies you, for a while...I know how you Elder Beings are...lol
SG
Note that the battlemap count was BEFORE I started in on the new levels. those were for existing locations only. Im feeling the count will go higher. Possibly quite a bit higher...
SG
DitheringFool |
personally, I wish like heck to get more of the maps SKeletonKey did way back when - here is the Ground Level and First Level
Skeeter Green |
personally, I wish like heck to get more of the maps SKeletonKey did way back when - here is the Ground Level and First Level
Im not sure if they will be in color, most likely not, but not 100% sure either way.
I think you will all be pleasently surprised by the maps. No offense to any other companies maps, I think these really capture the feel of this version of RA, the Frog God way, and the Pathfinder style. Just my opinion.
SG
Skeeter Green |
With 30+ maps detailing 10-ish encounter areas, I'm guessing that we'll be seeing maps that you slot together to make larger areas.
Yes, some areas take more than one map to cover. The mapped areas equate correctly (if the room is 60 by 60, it takes 4 maps, I think)
There are too many areas that are big to ignore.
SG
Skeeter Green |
Kamelion wrote:With 30+ maps detailing 10-ish encounter areas, I'm guessing that we'll be seeing maps that you slot together to make larger areas.Yes, some areas take more than one map to cover. The mapped areas equate correctly (if the room is 60 by 60, it takes 4 maps, I think)
There are too many areas that are big to ignore.
SG
Continuing updates....
added 30 more pages of new material, still have 3 new levels I haven't seen yet. Going to be a big book, not Tsar big, but real-world big.
And scary.
SG
Hobbun |
8 ½” x 11”? I’m assuming these locations have multiple maps? That size seems kind of small for one battle location.
Edit: I agree, it’s great to see some battlemaps, as well. Thanks! Maybe they will be big enough for the battle. I was just thinking of a 5-6 person party w/monsters.
Pre-orders are not available yet, correct?
pinvendor |
Allow me to take a moment to say I truly enjoy and admire the products Frog God Games has produced so far. I already know I am going to buy this as I have tried to obtain the original releases many times on eBay with no luck.
Thank you for all the hard work you guys do to keep the old style alive and kicking.
Kthulhu |
Hey Frog God Games guys,
Who should I talk to if your download service at aplusdownload.com has suddenly decided that I'm no longer a Slumbering Tsar subscriber? I logged on today to check if I could download ST14, and when I clicked on the eZine Subscription link, I get the message "Our records show that you are not subscribed currently to our Ezine."
I'd have to say that that download service is probably the low point of my experience with FGG. No notifications of updates, I never received any notification that the next chapter was ready since subscription, and this marks the second or third time that files have simply vanished from my account for no discernible reason.
You guys ever thought of switching to DriveThruRPG and using download codes/coupons to distribute your PDFs?
Chuck Wright Frog God Games |
Jeremy Smith Dreamscarred Press |
You guys ever thought of switching to DriveThruRPG and using download codes/coupons to distribute your PDFs?
Just to give an outsider's perspective - since I'm not affiliated with FGG :)
DriveThruRPG / RPGNow charges 35% of the product price. From the looks of it, APlusDownload charges 4.5% of the product price (although subscriptions look to use a different rate based on product specifics).
That's a huge difference.
If Dreamscarred Press was bigger, I would probably do something similar, because giving up 1/3 of the purchase is rough at times - and is why we do most of our preorders at the Dreamscarred Press site. We lose a lot less of the purchase price from sales at our site (~3% + a small flat cost) vs sales at other storefronts.
Dawn R Fischer Frog God Games |
Kthulhu wrote:You guys ever thought of switching to DriveThruRPG and using download codes/coupons to distribute your PDFs?Just to give an outsider's perspective - since I'm not affiliated with FGG :)
DriveThruRPG / RPGNow charges 35% of the product price. From the looks of it, APlusDownload charges 4.5% of the product price (although subscriptions look to use a different rate based on product specifics).
That's a huge difference.
If Dreamscarred Press was bigger, I would probably do something similar, because giving up 1/3 of the purchase is rough at times - and is why we do most of our preorders at the Dreamscarred Press site. We lose a lot less of the purchase price from sales at our site (~3% + a small flat cost) vs sales at other storefronts.
Thanks for the insight, Jeremy!
P.S. The Necromancers (Bill and Clark) deal with DriveThruRPG for their out of print products. So it stands to reason that Bill took that into account when he set up the download service with Bytes Interactive.
@ Kthulhu - If you've tried contacting Bytes Interactive directly and you still have problems, then contacting Bill is necessary.
Bill Webb Frog God Games |
Bill Webb Frog God Games |
Shem |
Bill, I also experienced often not receiving emails for the chapters when they were released. Sometimes I found out because people started talking about it here on Paizo or I just decided to check. Everyone once in a while I would get notified. A while ago on one of the Frog God threads I mentioned this before. A couple of months ago. About when Chapter 11 or 12 came out.
Dr. Johnny Fever |
I usually get the email 24-48 hours after the pdf has been posted. Either I'll happen to check and see the new module available for download or someone will mention it here. I always get the email, just usually one or two days after I know it has been released for download, so it seems (for me at least) that the notification system is working, it just isn't getting sent out as soon as the module is available for download. Not a big deal in my case, as I now know to check the download site daily ;)