Question about Bastard Swords... using 1 handed


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I'm playing a Paladin in a Kingmaker game and we found a while ago a nifty Bastard Sword.. Originally the Ranger/Bard in the Party took it but she sadly died last game session (Wyverns, and so I now have the weapon...

...but I don't care too much for it... but the DM hinted to us that its an important Sword (it was broken and we had it repaired)..

My Paladin has a magic shield and Shield Focus feat... so I"m a sword and Board character... I would never use the Bastard Sword two handed...

The Bastard Sword is considered a Martial Weapon if used two handed... otherwise you need to burn a Feat on Exotic Weapon Proficiency...

MY Question is what penalty does my Paladin have using the Bastard Sword One handed WITHOUT the Feat?

I was thinking its minus 2 (-2).. since its more of a larger one handed weapon... so its more of a size difference than a random weapon of exotic nature...

anyways..thanks in advance

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Lord Tsarkon wrote:

I'm playing a Paladin in a Kingmaker game and we found a while ago a nifty Bastard Sword.. Originally the Ranger/Bard in the Party took it but she sadly died last game session (Wyverns, and so I now have the weapon...

...but I don't care too much for it... but the DM hinted to us that its an important Sword (it was broken and we had it repaired)..

My Paladin has a magic shield and Shield Focus feat... so I"m a sword and Board character... I would never use the Bastard Sword two handed...

The Bastard Sword is considered a Martial Weapon if used two handed... otherwise you need to burn a Feat on Exotic Weapon Proficiency...

MY Question is what penalty does my Paladin have using the Bastard Sword One handed WITHOUT the Feat?

I was thinking its minus 2 (-2).. since its more of a larger one handed weapon... so its more of a size difference than a random weapon of exotic nature...

anyways..thanks in advance

Your GM can, of course, rule otherwise, but the "penalty" is that, without the Exotic Weapon feat, you simply can not use a bastard sword in one hand.

If I were the GM... I'd be more likely to allow a player to rebuild his character's feat selection than I would be to house-rule a way to dodge the feat in the first place.


Since it appears on the "exotic weapon, one handed" table, I'd say -4. Just like any other nonproficiency.

EDIT: Ninja'd by official word.

Grand Lodge

My answer for powerful weapons that DMs give, that no one uses is this.
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic-items/magic-weapons#TOC-Transformative


Hey Thanks for all the responses..

My group was tinkering of using this spell for me..

Bestow Weapon Proficiency

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